Become a MacRumors Supporter for $50/year with no ads, ability to filter front page stories, and private forums.
Wow you people are pretty blind to not see that this guy is quite smart and has a excellent point. I really wouldn't call what he said an opinion because it is dead on...now ilove apple and currently am typing on my 64g ipad2 which I love but would it have killed them to give me at least one good camera instead of 2 out of 1998. But that is the game and if I want the next new thing I will play it but unlike most of you I refuse to be brainwashed and made to feel that They are doing me a favor by taking my money:)

Let me get this straight. You two ran out and got the iPad 2 on launch day. But you both are enlightened. And everyone else who buys one is brainwashed?

Yeah, ok. Keep telling yourselves that, maybe if you say it enough you might start believing it.
 
Actually I bought it because I had the disposable income to do so and feel it is the best option on the market right now. I am not saying everyone is brainwashed except me just the ones who think apple is doing them a favor by letting them spend their money on the next big thing every 8months. Their could be some balance to the situation but greed on both sides will never let that happen...my point was that the op has a good point but you are all too blinded with lust for Steve jobs to see it;)
 
It's about both, actually. Without seamless hardware integration the software would be at a serious disadvantage.

True. But for me lesser software can't be made up with greater hardware. But not so good hardware can shine with good software. See ipad and windows 7 tablets.
 
Actually I bought it because I had the disposable income to do so and feel it is the best option on the market right now. I am not saying everyone is brainwashed except me just the ones who think apple is doing them a favor by letting them spend their money on the next big thing every 8months. Their could be some balance to the situation but greed on both sides will never let that happen...my point was that the op has a good point but you are all too blinded with lust for Steve jobs to see it;)

Who in this thread said Apple was doing them a favor by taking their money. The op basically said he hated their advertising propaganda. He may be a "shareholder" but he seems naive in the ways of marketing. Every company trying to take your money is going to try and sell you on why their product is the latest and greatest. To single Apple out is ridiculous.

But, instead, anyone who disagreed is brainwashed and a puppet of Steve Jobs. I'll let you in on a secret...you're the one playing into Steve Jobs hands. Not the fanboys. I didn't run out and buy the iPad 2. You both did and bragged about it. All the while knocking the company you just threw your money at.
 
I'd take one exception to all you said.

You noted that their attitude is unacceptable, yet you bought the product. I'd say that makes the attitude bad, but acceptable, since you accepted it by purchasing.
 
I am not saying everyone is brainwashed except me just the ones who think apple is doing them a favor by letting them spend their money on the next big thing every 8months.

Sounds like you and OP have some self-loathing issues due to the fact that you feel compelled to spend money on the next big thing every 8 months. Too bad. :rolleyes:
 
I'd take one exception to all you said.

You noted that their attitude is unacceptable, yet you bought the product. I'd say that makes the attitude bad, but acceptable, since you accepted it by purchasing.

You know apple. You can check out any time you like but you can never leave.
 
I agree on some points, but you seem to be forgetting one thing, R&D is not free.

The first iPhone was radically different than oth smartphones at the time. A simple intuitive interface that anyone could use, a capacitive touchscreen so no stylus was required, a web browser with a desktop rendering engine and multitouch gestures.

Yes it had no 3G, but at that time many other smartphones by palm and htc also had no 3G. Of course eighths extreme price of the first iPhone you would kind of expect it , but the thing is that they created something different.

Look at the "tablets" befoe iPad. The size of a laptop, running a desktop os, extremely expensive, with crappy displays and touch screens. Now everyone is trying to imitate the iPad.
 
I'd take one exception to all you said.

You noted that their attitude is unacceptable, yet you bought the product. I'd say that makes the attitude bad, but acceptable, since you accepted it by purchasing.
Attitude has nothing to do with the product.

They are two different subjects. Both very worthy of discussion. It's what forums are for.

Every Apple product I buy, and I buy a lot because they're quite good, increases Apples profit, which reflects positively on the Apple stock I own.

It's a win/win deal.

I'm an Apple Computer user, enthusiast & investor.

A great combination :) :) :)
 
Wether He's a troll or not. He got a good point, still i buy apple product no matter what. It's not about hardware it's about software.

The OP does not havd a point, he as an opinion. He can prove nothing of what he says. He is speculating on what he sees. Then he let it bother him enought to write a blog about it.
 
I will clarify things just for you.

First of all I _never_ever_ bash Apple products. Period. I simply share my experience with them.

I may discuss their issues, and if that bothers some then so be it.

I invest tens of thousands in new Apple computers and gear every year because it _is_ so good.

It's Apples _ Arrogant, Superiority Complex I disagree with. Plain & Simple.

It's their self absorbed wild claims ( Its Magical & Revolutionary ) that I find unacceptable.

If you think that's Apple bashing, that's your opinion which is of no concern of mine.

I enjoy buying 99% of all new Apple products. It gives me the advantage of personal experience. If it's a good product wonderful, if not I just resell it or give it away.

Either way Apple & I both win. Especially since I paid less than $20 per share for a huge number of them years ago & keep buying more year after year.


EDIT:

To the comment of so many posts in a short period of time, I'm on a well deserved sabbatical which has afforded me time to discuss the Apple products I've enjoyed immensely since my first PowerBook 170.

So you see, I am in fact, a long time Apple supporter. I've bought 90% of every new Apple laptop ever made.


Cheers :)

That explains it, you must be lonely. Too bad you have access to the internet, you're not making good use of your time.
 
Seeing videos of very old folks using an iPad and finally connecting with all the stuff they might find interesting on the web is ***** magical! Sorry, but it ain't marketing hype, it's real. Try doing that with any tech product and tell me how it works out for you.
 
Wether He's a troll or not. He got a good point, still i buy apple product no matter what. It's not about hardware it's about software.

The typical lame argument of, "If I don't like their product then it must mean that everyone who does is weak-willed because I obviously set the standard for all personal preference and I know what people SHOULD like.
 
Are you a crazy person?

Now that I've used my iPad 2 for some time, I've discovered some shortcomings.

After some thought I realized why.

It's the brilliance of Apple.

This is now a "game" Apple has created, and decided to play back when the first iPhone was introduced.

The name of this game is "Screw The Customer For Fun & Profit" and Apple plays it masterfully.

Far better than most large scale companies. They can do this because Apple has a near death grip, & unusual control over their customers.

Whereas if "normal" companies offer a product, and it's missing features customers want, the customers go elsewhere and buy the competitors product, like automobiles for example.

Here's an example of what I'm talking about.

With Apple & the first iPhone, it lacked cut & paste.

When reviewed, it was noted but rarely criticized. If it was, the fanboys and Apple apologists were quick to discredit the blog, publication, or website that called Apple on it. Ranting, hating & bashing, the ones who identified the shortcoming or fault were labeled the bad guys. Rarely was Apple held accountable.

Another significant missing feature was 3G. This at a time when 3G was very popular. Yet Apple purposely left it off the iPhone so it would have a compelling reason for people to have to buy iPhone 2 if they wanted modern features in their phone.

Once this "test of the customers tolerance" was complete Apple knew they could cheat their customers out of the latest in tech, and still sell all they could build.

Fast forward to today. Now after years of shifting their focus to what they could get away with, in the name of greed, and profits, Apple has carte blanch with customers money.

You've got to give Apple a lot of credit for their brilliance.

They create a simple device we didn't even ask for, (like the iPad) then convince us we can't live without it. How simply genius.

Apple deserves credit, not for their dubious technical achievements, but in how they refined the art of manipulation of customers, the press, and profit taking.

Best of all, during all this time my Apple stock has pumped up my wealth.

Thanks Apple !

Do your research sweetie. Many recently released ANDROID (The supposed "open source" phones) didn't ship with copy and paste and were released after the iPhone 1G. You'll also do well remember that Apple is the company that pioneered all of this multi-touch and truly innovative mobile software. What reason does Apple to be malicious against it's customers? Apple has more than $40 Billion in cash. Not revenue, not marginal revenue just PURE profit that they don't have to spend. They have no reason to "cheat." Did you plagiarize any of this? I could have sworn I have read a similar rant on PCMag.com or maybe on FoxNewsTech. And by the way, if you don't like what they're doing, then don't buy their stock as you are profiteering off this "carte blanche" action that Apple supposedly takes. Love them or hate them, but just remember what they have done for technology and the youth of the world.
 
Well said.

This is precisely why I've always had a true love/hate relationship with Apple. I genuinely hate them every bit as much as I love their products.

couldnt agree more they sell expensive stuff but damn every product ive ever bought has been awesome
 
I enjoy buying 99% of all new Apple products.

I've bought 90% of every new Apple laptop ever made.

Man you're not making any damn sense! Do you realize what you're saying? In a nutshell, you're saying that you've bought pretty much every product Apple has ever made. Let me teach you about percentages, they can be converted into fractions! You say you buy 99% of all new apple products, this is just another way of saying that for every new apple product you don't buy, you buy 99 new apple products, or 99/100. I'm not in the mood to count, but apple must not have made more than 300 products in their lifetime. Which means that by your percentages, you've bought 297 out of the 300 products... Sound plausible? No. But then you say that you buy 90% of all Apple laptops ever made. This completely contradicts with your last statement, making it an outright lie, the numbers don't up!

Conclusion: You're trolling. I fail to believe that you trade in the stock market, because your comment shows that you pretty much have 6th grade knowledge of numbers, or less, my 4th grade daughter is learning percentages....

As for the 3G, apple didn't include it in the original iPhone because the battery simply couldn't sustain a charge for more than an hour on 3G. The iphone running on the edge network ate up the battery fairly quick, imagine on 3G!

On another note, you claim to be fair, yet you never say anything good about Apple products. I pretty much hate every company (not a fan of self-interest, the cornerstone of the modern corporation), and Apple is no exception, but I have a lot of good things to say about their products. Sure, I have some bad things to say as well, and I do say them (check some of my other macrumor posts), but generally I am pleased with the products more than I am angered by them. You don't seem to be this way. If you are seriously angered by Apple's money making methods, simply BOYCOTT them. You are nothing but an hypocrite, you cannot say "I'm against what they do, but I give them thousands so they can keep on doing it". Have some backbone and buy from someone else if you don't agree with what they do, even if you love their products, your morals should weigh more than your desire to consume. You sir, fail...
 
[dreaming out loud]
Wouldn't it be great if you could turn on an automated filter that would just nuke every post that uses the words "fanboy" "cult" "koolaid" and the rest of the buzzwords that the trolls around here trot out constantly. It sure would make these forums a lot better place to hang out.
[/dreaming out loud]
 
Companies market things and upgrade products to increase sales!?!?

What's this I don't even....
 
Register on MacRumors! This sidebar will go away, and you'll see fewer ads.