iPad Pro My one worry about the M1 pro

[1BadManVan]

As much as i love my M1 pro, i do have one worry when it comes to apple updates in the future. We all know this chipset is overkill for the current OS, and i bought it knowing that. My worry stems from apples history of including new features that they make exclusive to the new chipsets, even though we know current ones could have handled it fine.

Should we be worried that way for the M1 as well? I mean its got to be a bit harder for them to try and claim this when the same chip is doing some very capable things on the macs. I hope to hold onto this for at least a few years and reap the benefits of whatever updates apple finally brings to this, i just hope we actually get to see it.

 

[Realityck]

As much as i love my M1 pro, i do have one worry when it comes to apple updates in the future. We all know this chipset is overkill for the current OS, and i bought it knowing that. My worry stems from apples history of including new features that they make exclusive to the new chipsets, even though we know current ones could have handled it fine.

Should we be worried that way for the M1 as well? I mean its got to be a bit harder for them to try and claim this when the same chip is doing some very capable things on the macs. I hope to hold onto this for at least a few years and reap the benefits of whatever updates apple finally brings to this, i just hope we actually get to see it.

Although there are times I think back to Classic Mac OS before MacOSX with iPadOS as it is currently, I am hopeful that Apple will continue to push forward to with improving on its weaknesses, such as multitasking.

iPadOS 15 doesn't allow you to have top/bottom split screen as a lot request, only side by side. One would think the upcoming IPadOS updates would focus a lot more on being able to use multiple apps at the same time once they get past universal control.

I still consider the OS variations tailored to each ecosystem with display limitations has a lot of possibilities.

 

[sparksd]

As much as i love my M1 pro, i do have one worry when it comes to apple updates in the future. We all know this chipset is overkill for the current OS, and i bought it knowing that. My worry stems from apples history of including new features that they make exclusive to the new chipsets, even though we know current ones could have handled it fine.

Should we be worried that way for the M1 as well? I mean its got to be a bit harder for them to try and claim this when the same chip is doing some very capable things on the macs. I hope to hold onto this for at least a few years and reap the benefits of whatever updates apple finally brings to this, i just hope we actually get to see it.

I have the 2021 12.9 and don't worry about it. Tea leaf reading is only fortune telling and not worth the thought. Enjoy it as is and don't worry a future than can't be foreseen.

 

[FrozenDarkness]

Buy your devices based off of what it offers today not potentially what it can do tomorrow. You won't ever win that battle.

 

[1BadManVan]

Like i said, i bought it knowing it was overkill but there’s no harm in hoping they will bring in more updates to harness its power. I just hope they don’t make it an “exclusive feature” for the next gens that could easily work on these lol

 

[turbineseaplane]

Buy your devices based off of what it offers today not potentially what it can do tomorrow. You won't ever win that battle.

This ^^ Always...particularly with iPads

OP you are correct. There very well might be new extra chips or sensors that are exclusive to new models...or even software features that Apple intentionally doesn’t backport to older hardware.

Always buy for the features you are getting right at or near the time of purchase.

 

[1BadManVan]

This ^^ Always...particularly with iPads

OP you are correct. There very well might be new extra chips or sensors that are exclusive to new models...or even software features that Apple intentionally doesn’t backport to older hardware.

Always buy for the features you are getting right at or near the time of purchase.

I did, doesn’t hurt to be hopeful as we have seen the potential these have over on the macs.

 

[Realityck]

I did, doesn’t hurt to be hopeful as we have seen the potential these have over on the macs.

There are two unknowns comparing both, Macs are always going to more powerful using a full Unix implementation. Where as iPadOS is a much newer system focused only on the iPad lineup that takes advantage of their bigger screen resolutions. As 9to5Mac posted in a article:

There are some great apps available for Apple’s tablet but most users have to learn “tweaks” to perform similar tasks that they could easily do on a Mac.

So iPadOS will always just be behind hardware and software of Macs.

Apple is continuing working towards making all these devices be easier to work together, but Monterey and later major releases will continue to scale, which has us all wondering how far iPadOS capabilities will go given it’s hardware?

 

[cupcakes2000]

Like i said, i bought it knowing it was overkill but there’s no harm in hoping they will bring in more updates to harness its power. I just hope they don’t make it an “exclusive feature” for the next gens that could easily work on these lol

I’m not sure how it is overkill. Whilst it’s not easy to tax an M1 iPad due to the power of the thing, there are a great deal of apps that are able to use the power.
So much focus on the OS and a perception of it being to basic for the internals of the machine is folly. It doesn’t really make sense as an argument to me. You spend your time within apps, and if those apps offer what you need then the OS is of little consequence. I find there is a bit missing from (young) iPadOS - but very little that hampers what I can actually do with the thing.

 

[Username-already-in-use]

Apple is very good at keeping legacy tech going with software updates for its MacOS and iPadOS lineup.

This contrasts to the Android world where powerful phones and tablets get their 3-years-and-done OS updates while new low-end (but less capable) devices newly released can run newer OS versions.

 

[Digitalguy]

The "exclusive" features are not arbitrary, they are based on hardware. Some iPadOS 15 features work on A12 and above because of the neural engine, not because Apple wants to exclude older devices. Same for sidecar and the Apple pencil support or in the pasts for devices with less RAM.
So there is nothing to worry about. If anything, given that M1 is also a laptop chip it might get the same support as laptops (which with Intel has been up to 8 years, but I wouldn't be surprised that Apple extends that support to 10 years for their own silicon).
As for new features making iPadOS more similar to a desktop OS (which would make more use of the hardware), that's a totally different story and I would not expect much, since Apple wants to keep iPads and Macs separate enough that one is not a replacement for the other.

 

[davidako]

Apple is very good at keeping legacy tech going with software updates for its MacOS and iPadOS lineup.

This contrasts to the Android world where powerful phones and tablets get their 3-years-and-done OS updates while new low-end (but less capable) devices newly released can run newer OS versions.

My 3.5 year Android phone just got an OS update to add a new always on display option.

Meanwhile Apple phones sold a couple of months ago have been software locked out of the latest camera options.

 

[cupcakes2000]

Meanwhile Apple phones sold a couple of months ago have been software locked out of the latest camera options.

But that’s hardware related. You cannot add a software technology to a device where the hardware tech doesn’t exist.

In actual fact, the way Apple does it works well in comparison to the regualr PC market where you can buy something that flat out won’t work with certain tech, or more likely works but with a terrible ux.

 

[davidako]

But that’s hardware related. You cannot add a software technology to a device where the hardware tech doesn’t exist.

In actual fact, the way Apple does it works well in comparison to the regualr PC market where you can buy something that flat out won’t work with certain tech, or more likely works but with a terrible ux.

So cinematic mode works on my iPhone 13 mini but someone with the same camera on their iPhone 12 Pro Max somehow lacks the hardware?

OK bro.

 

[sparksd]

So cinematic mode works on my iPhone 13 mini but someone with the same camera on their iPhone 12 Pro Max somehow lacks the hardware?

OK bro.

There may be capabilities built into the A15 chip that aren't in the A14 - it's faster and has more GPU cores.

 

[cupcakes2000]

So cinematic mode works on my iPhone 13 mini but someone with the same camera on their iPhone 12 Pro Max somehow lacks the hardware?

OK bro.

Bro? 😂 are you 12? This is an adult conversation. No need to be condescending. Explanations work better.

 

[1BadManVan]

There may be capabilities built into the A15 chip that aren't in the A14 - it's faster and has more GPU cores.

Gotta stop defending apple to this degree.. just like the night mode, far less powerful and less capable androids got that. Apple locked it out of the xs max to get you to buy the latest model.. that’s why i worry they will do this to the m1. It it is what it is

 

[sparksd]

Gotta stop defending apple to this degree.. just like the night mode, far less powerful and less capable androids got that. Apple locked it out of the xs max to get you to buy the latest model.. that’s why i worry they will do this to the m1. It it is what it is

Where am I defending Apple? I'm not, I'm simply suggesting a possible reason - they increased h/w capabilities and now we complain about that? I don't buy this argument about locking out.

 

[cupcakes2000]

Gotta stop defending apple to this degree.. just like the night mode, far less powerful and less capable androids got that. Apple locked it out of the xs max to get you to buy the latest model.. that’s why i worry they will do this to the m1. It it is what it is

On the other hand- gotta stop comparing the two platforms in this manner. Far less capable androids may have it- but it’s rarely better. At this pont, go android instead if a feature exists there that you desire that you can’t get on an equivalent iPhone. No?

 

[1BadManVan]

On the other hand- gotta stop comparing the two platforms in this manner. Far less capable androids may have it- but it’s rarely better. At this pont, go android instead if a feature exists there that you desire that you can’t get on an equivalent iPhone. No?

You want continue living life in denial then that’s your choice I guess. No company is perfect and they all do their own tactics to make us spend more money. I’m calling apple out on some of them, don’t like it, feel free to move along. I still clearly like apple and their products, that’s why I own them, it doesn’t mean im going to kiss their ass at every turn.

 

[sparksd]

You want continue living life in denial then that’s your choice I guess. No company is perfect and they all do their own tactics to make us spend more money. I’m calling apple out on some of them, don’t like it, feel free to move along. I still clearly like apple and their products, that’s why I own them, it doesn’t mean im going to kiss their ass at every turn.

I don't see cupcakes2000 kissing their backsides. No need for insults.

 

[Username-already-in-use]

My 3.5 year Android phone just got an OS update to add a new always on display option.

nice for you. My 2019 Samsung Note 10 Plus 5G is receiving no support beyond 2022, despite having processing power beyond low and mid-range phones released in 2021 which will get their 2-3 years-and-done OS versions.

 

[Digitalguy]

nice for you. My 2019 Samsung Note 10 Plus 5G is receiving no support beyond 2022, despite having processing power beyond low and mid-range phones released in 2021 which will get their 2-3 years-and-done OS versions.

As a Samsung S10 user while I am glad Samsung retroactively gave it 1 more year of support (3 OS + 1 of security only) I think Apple is far ahead, especially as they replace batteries, contrary to Samsung... Personally however there is one big deal breaker for me, lightning, no way I am buying an iPhone without USB C. If it ever comes to iPhone I'll switch.

 

[Username-already-in-use]

As a Samsung S10 user while I am glad Samsung retroactively gave it 1 more year of support (3 OS + 1 of security only) I think Apple is far ahead, especially as they replace batteries, contrary to Samsung... Personally however there is one big deal breaker for me, lightning, no way I am buying an iPhone without USB C. If it ever comes to iPhone I'll switch.

Yes, for me the lightning cable is what keeps me from getting an iPhone.

 

[Digitalguy]

Yes, for me the lightning cable is what keeps me from getting an iPhone.

Apple makes undoubtedly a ton of money with lightning cables and accessories, but I wonder how many Android users they are missing because of that. If they decide to go wireless charging only to avoid the EU regulation about USB C (assuming that the EU accepts it) I will never consider iPhone as an option (wireless charging is a nice additional option but very inefficient and bad for the battery in the long run as the only option)