My real world experience with TSMC vs Samsung

[MaciMac100]

But yet the Samsung is consistently the faster of the two chips, admittedly by a small margin, even in Geekbench's test. So how can it be throttling?

I was talking about Tom's Hardware test where they hammered CPU 100% non-stop.

 

[CraigGB]

Yes it's bad.

Thermal throttling lowers CPU frequency and voltages, making it look like runs "cooler" and "more battery efficient"...

But yet the Samsung is consistently the faster of the two chips, admittedly by a small margin, even in Geekbench's test. So how can it be throttling?

and in the video I linked above it shows both phones completing heavy tasks in pretty much the same amount of time, which indicates neither CPU throttles or maybe they both do 😛

 

[Dented]

I was talking about Tom's Hardware test where they hammered CPU 100% non-stop.

I know, but if it was throttling in that test surely it would do the same in others? Why are we not seeing any evidence of throttling on the performance side, in *any* test or benchmark?

 

[MaciMac100]

and in the video I linked above it shows both phones completing heavy tasks in pretty much the same amount of time, which indicates neither CPU throttles or maybe they both do 😛

Thanks for linking that video. It's interesting, gotta admit. It's good to have more data. 🙂

 

[MaciMac100]

I know, but if it was throttling in that test surely it would do the same in others? Why are we not seeing any evidence of throttling on the performance side, in *any* test or benchmark?

Geekbench battery test isn't designed to put 100% load on CPU, so it doesn't throttle easily. Looking forward to find more about Geekbench results...

 

[Max(IT)]

the problem is in the end he bases his conclusion purely on the geekbench battery test still which sadly still doesn't provide any answers, he just states that based on the geekbench battery test the TSMC appears by far to have more battery life which is what we already knew but he uses big words 😛.

in the end the conclusion he makes is as he states:

These results present strong evidence that the Geekbench battery performance of the TSMC chip is on average much better than that of the Samsung chip.

well we know that, the problem is we don't know why and if it affects real world usage or why this one benchmarks result to so different compared to every other benchmark performed on anandtech and tomshardware

... unless you are not going to buy an iPhone 6 to run Geekbench all the day

so... what does it all mean??

basically nothing...

Yes it's bad.

Thermal throttling lowers CPU frequency and voltages, making it look like runs "cooler" and "more battery efficient"...

except we don't have any hint about A9 throttling.
Anandtech proved A9 isn't throttling at all under heavy load, and every test so far showed no performance difference between TSMC and Samsung's A9. So if TSMC isn't throttling, Samsung isn't throttling too...

 

[Zune55]

Nobody outside of Apple really knows any of that kind of stuff, but it's believed that Samsung are making (or at least selling) their chips for a lower price, so it's in apple's interest to use more of them rather than less.

i hope cheaper does not mean low grade chip.

 

[NewdestinyX]

so far I saw A SINGLE test on two phones. Two.

Then you're willfully not looking and ignoring.

Though I'll agree that with the Toms Hardware results going the opposite - we do need more authoritative testing. But Geekbench plus several other real world YouTube tests concluding one thing - and only Tom's on the other side of the argument - it calls into question the validity of the Toms Hardware test paradigm.

 

[Max(IT)]

Then you're willfully not looking and ignoring.

Though I'll agree that with the Toms Hardware results going the opposite - we do need more authoritative testing. But Geekbench plus several other real world YouTube tests concluding one thing - and only Tom's on the other side of the argument - it calls into question the validity of the Toms Hardware test paradigm.

Ars Technica and Tom's HW basically said Apple tell the truth.

I'd rather trust well known independent websites than a bunch of youtubers looking for clicks .....

 

[Max(IT)]

http://www.consumerreports.org/smartphones/battery-tests-find-no-chipgate-problems-in-the-iPhone-6s

Now consumer reports is biased toward Apple, right ?

 

[NewdestinyX]

http://www.consumerreports.org/smartphones/battery-tests-find-no-chipgate-problems-in-the-iPhone-6s

Now consumer reports is biased toward Apple, right ?

The problem is we're dealing with a change of the goal post situation. The original issue was battery life between the two chips. All these tests your pointing to are talking about CPU usage differences. Unless I'm misreading. Please post the pertinent excerpts that support your position.