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Easy, buddy. I'm just repeating what I've heard. :)

For one thing, I think it is fair to say that less features generally means a more stable product (though the one certainly does not guarantee the other). You complain about Safari...what if there were a dozen additional apps on the device, each with their own teething troubles? The whining would shake the foundations of Cupertino.

If that was the case people would be complaining about the iPhone. It's obviously not a problem on the iPhone, and wouldn't be on the iPod touch (same hardware, after all). There's a difference between not designing certain features into a product and intentionally crippling features in a product to push another product.

At any rate, the iPod Touch is not a Palm TX. It's a media player with wifi in a very small form factor.

According to Steve, it's a phone-less iPhone. Not a phone-less, app-less, crippled iPhone.

I don't think it's wrong to point out the device's faults (there are several significant ones), but come on people - Apple releases a powerful media player with a stunning form factor and tons of functionality for a media player, and people complain that it doesn't have all the functionality of <insert PDA brand>. If you want more apps, get a Palm.

I'm not complaining so much as pointing out a flaw in Apple's strategy. Apple put all this money into engineering the iPhone - they could leverage this engineering to tap other markets. Instead, they chose to cripple the iPod touch, and not enter the market.

And to be honest, no, I don't think Apple wants to see a lot of third party development for the iPhone, at least yet. This shouldn't be news to anyone who has been a regular Apple customer over the years.

I don't really care about 3rd party apps (I'd rather first party apps from Apple). Basic functions like an editable calendar and a notes app would sure be nice, though.

What if Apple engineered OS X to only support Core Animation on Pro Macs? Sure, every Mac from the Mini to the Mac Pro is capable, but to push the high-end models, Apple decides to not support it on non-Pro machines. That's exactly what's being done here.
 
problem gets discovered when playing with it

another observation
1. it can display PDF in safari! its a good news for me

2. it can NOT save page for offline viewing! this is a bad news. since blazer can, also Touch is not a device that can connect to internet 24/7..

PS. I will just keep playing with it, but Im sure I will keep my eye on
1. hacks
2. screen problems

if above two problems are getting nowhere in a month, I will just return it to BB, and maybe wait for next version down the road...:D
 
I was hoping to use the ipod touch as a replacement for my $179.00 palm TX. since it doesn't have the same features as the iphone I cannot buy one. What a lame excuse it is for people to say "its an ipod not a pda". Well the iphone is a phone and it can do much much more. I have zero clue why they could not have added all the same features as the iphone(except the phone part which sucks anyways).

The reason why apple doesn't have all the features with the ipod touch as with the iphone is because then guys like me would buy the touch for all the great non phone features then keep my verizon phone for a phone(since at+t sucks balls). How hard would it be to have a notes and calendar application the same as the phone.
 
I have zero clue why they could not have added all the same features as the iphone(except the phone part which sucks anyways).

Because they want to force you to buy an iPhone and pay sweet monthly dividends to Apple. Katching...

All that does is turn me off from buying Apple products - I tend to not want to be brainwashed and force-fed stuff I don't really need.
 
the concept of having a product line that differs from product to product is lost on most of you.
an ipod, no matter how much you want it to be a PDA, is not a pda. (w/o hacks)
the argument that you don't like it because its not more PDA-like is irrelevant. Sure you want a cheap multitouch PDA with no phone and everything the iphone has and more, but it just wont happen in the near future.
so if you want a PDA, go iphone
if you want an iPod, get an iPod touch, classic, nano or shuffle.
 
the concept of having a product line that differs from product to product is lost on most of you.
an ipod, no matter how much you want it to be a PDA, is not a pda. (w/o hacks)
the argument that you don't like it because its not more PDA-like is irrelevant. Sure you want a cheap multitouch PDA with no phone and everything the iphone has and more, but it just wont happen in the near future.
so if you want a PDA, go iphone
if you want an iPod, get an iPod touch, classic, nano or shuffle.

You are absolutely right, it is not a pda --- ONLY because apple wants you to buy the iphone instead of the touch, er wait apple wants you to buy both of them .... that is the only reason its not a pda ... so in all reality, based on the fact that its very similar hardware internals as an iphone, and and iphone is very nearly a pda, and a touch is just a phoneless iphone (pda) that would mean that the touch is nothing but a phoneless, terribly crippled PDA !!!!!!

And for anyone who argues that is just an ipod!!!! WTF? do you have something against making your devices more useful, if you have no need for the uses of a pda then thats fine, DON'T use it, you have the option, but for those of us who want it to be a PDA, (oh what a sweet pda it would make) do not have the option to use it in that capacity!!!

Apple makes a great product, but that doesn't mean its anywhere near perfect. I will be waiting til they release the touch that they should have released, the one they said they were going to release, - a truly phonless iphone, ( though i would prefer it was in the new thinner touch form )
 
problem gets discovered when playing with it

another observation
1. it can display PDF in safari! its a good news for me

2. it can NOT save page for offline viewing! this is a bad news. since blazer can, also Touch is not a device that can connect to internet 24/7..

PS. I will just keep playing with it, but Im sure I will keep my eye on
1. hacks
2. screen problems

if above two problems are getting nowhere in a month, I will just return it to BB, and maybe wait for next version down the road...:D

Try this for PDF's and offline viewing (though you must do this from the desktop)-

http://www.insanelygreattees.com/news/?p=51

Let me know how it works, I returned my Touch already for now...
 
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