My school's network doesn't support iPhone wifi

Discussion in 'iPhone' started by sstern1, Sep 12, 2007.

  1. sstern1 macrumors member

    Jun 24, 2004
    What should I do -- our wireless uses 802.1x authorization and they say that the iphone won't work with it. Is that a hardware or software issue on the iPhone's side? Anyone have any experience with that?
  2. FJ218700 macrumors 68000


    Mar 8, 2007
    Blue Dot, Red State
    who said? have you actually tried it? People say that Mac's can't get on the internet too.
  3. ps49556n macrumors regular

    Jun 20, 2007
    I know at my university to use the wifi I select the name of the open school network (with no password), go to safari and safari will load the login screen. I just sign in with my info and it works great
  4. fart macrumors regular

    Jul 7, 2007
    The Nation's Fartland

    Seriously, the "IT" guy (IE- the computer sci student who was gullible enough to take work study) didn't even know how to set any of it up on my iPhone.

    Arg, it still doesn't work on the school's wifi, forcing me to either go visit mr.IT Jr, or use EDGE for those boring lectures.

    ...I choose edge. :(
  5. zinj macrumors member

    May 23, 2007
    My school is the same way, and it indeed does not work with 802.1x. From what I've read, it is just a software update to the iphone, as osx actually does support it. Apple just needs to add it. Or maybe a native app could be created, but that would require you to hack your phone.
  6. sstern1 thread starter macrumors member

    Jun 24, 2004
    This is what the tech support site says:

    Due to secure requiring 802.1x authentication, the Apple iPhone’s Wi-Fi device is not currently compatible with the secure network. iPhone users will need to rely on their iPhone’s EDGE wireless technology for their on-campus wireless. AT&T will soon have three additional towers up on campus which should increase ease of use.
  7. woodbutcher macrumors regular


    Jul 1, 2007
  8. Stadsport macrumors regular

    Nov 9, 2006
    My school has three wifi networks that are repeated campus-wide:
    -Freely available to everyone, just connect and get online and hit accept. A nice bug is that "Accept" times out, then you hit it again, and apps outside of Safari will be able to use the internet (contrary to what happens on a computer).
    -Encrypted, you get a "guest" login from someone else or something.
    -The one everyone (should) use. 802.1x encryption--the iPhone can't connect to it.

    Luckily we have pretty good EDGE signal campus-wide, too.

    That said, you have it backwards: iPhone doesn't support your school's network. I too am wondering if it's something a software update can give us.
  9. kdarling macrumors P6


    Jun 9, 2007
    First university coding class = 47 years ago
    When the phone was first sold, the 802.1x thing came up right away.

    I could swear I read that Apple said they left it out because they didn't know how widespread its use was (at colleges especially), and promised they'd add it (sooner or later).
  10. earnjam macrumors 6502a


    Jun 7, 2007
    North Carolina
    I know at my school, I had to register the hardware address of the device I was trying to connect to the network with. (wireless or ethernet) It was pretty easy and could be done through a web interface.

    After that, it was as simple as entering the proper WEP password for the wireless.
  11. ps49556n macrumors regular

    Jun 20, 2007
    Are you people at public schools, or universities/college??? I find it hard to believe that there are many universities that still use the x protocol
  12. cybertron3 macrumors member

    Jul 31, 2003
    I cant connect to WPA2 wireless with AES authentication either. It works fine on my MBP, but the iPhone cant do it... yet.
  13. Merlyn3D macrumors 6502

    May 15, 2006
    Um....actually the iPhone is fine with WPA and WPA2. My home network is WPA2 and I never have trouble with it.
  14. standeliverleav macrumors newbie

    Aug 24, 2007

    Well I can't get to the wireless at my work because the firewall login to the server is flash!

    apple help me. adobe help me. someone

  15. zinj macrumors member

    May 23, 2007
    Universities. From my understanding, 802.1x is a more advanced network authentication than WEP. It also allows administrators to lock individual people out rather than having to redistribute a WEP key. 802.1x requires each user to have their own account, thus, the iphone isn't compatible because it only allows WEP/WPA(just a password, not individual accounts).

    I'm no network wizard or anything, this is just what I've read.
  16. Rodimus Prime macrumors G4

    Rodimus Prime

    Oct 9, 2006
    add to that reasoning as well is university are slow moving beast. They can not keep up with the times because it cost ot much. They move slowly. Heck it was only in the past few years my University finally got wireless set up in all major buildings on campus and that was because of cost.

    Get use to it. University networks admins are very care about most things (and they should be). It apple fault they did not include that in the iPhone because 802.x is wide spread in colleges.
    But of course people refuse to blame apple because apple always does everything the best way. What ever Steve Jobs is the word of god.
  17. ps49556n macrumors regular

    Jun 20, 2007
    WEll i just wrote to the CIO at my university about this....

    I know for me, I need to login using my user name and PW in safari, then it works perfectly....
  18. Stang68 macrumors 6502a


    May 29, 2007
    hey guys,

    I am pretty sure that the Touch will work on my schools wifi, but just to make you guys know if WPA2 encryption works on the iPhone/Touch? usually i just need to enter my username and password to connect but i just wanted to know.

  19. cybertron3 macrumors member

    Jul 31, 2003
    I actually ment to type WPA2 with AES Authentication / PEAP encryption. I have WPA2 set up and working just fine at my home.
  20. zinj macrumors member

    May 23, 2007
    Really, apple just needs to include it in the next software update. It's already in OSx so I imagine it's a simple fix.
  21. PinkZeppelin macrumors member

    Jul 3, 2007
    Baton Rouge
    Do you go to LSU by any chance? They say the exact same thing to me.
  22. Merlyn3D macrumors 6502

    May 15, 2006
    Ah....yeah, now that makes sense.:) At home I have my router set to accept TKIP or AES.

    It might not be. It's OS X running on ARM architecture instead of x86 or PowerPC. A lot of stuff probably has to be recompiled and debugged for the different architecture, and I would imagine it might be a little more than just a simple fix.
  23. rykwon97 macrumors newbie

    Dec 5, 2006
    Baton Rouge, LA
    PinkZepplin, I am in the same boat as you, at LSU and the wireless network is completely useless on the iphone and not that much better on a laptop. Seems like every week my laptop doesn't connect because my PAWS password has expired. Hopefully Apple comes up with a fix for this.
  24. sblasl macrumors 6502a


    Apr 25, 2004
    Heber Springs, AR
    I bet alot of these Universities/Schools do not want the additional drain on the wireless resources that 100's of iPhones would put on it. Their not going to do anything extra to accommodate all of the folks with iPhones.
  25. feelthefire macrumors 6502a

    Jun 13, 2006
    iPhone/ touch are never gonna work on my school's network as they require a VPN adapter to connect. Wireless signal is weak anyway.

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