My take on TSMC vs Samsung (Chip-gate)

[thegrants82]

You're right, I'm sure it has nothing to do with the whole global competitor thing Apple has going on with Samsung. It's just that TSMC "is better".

Finally came to your senses on this topic. Awesome and good luck to you!

 

[arjun90]

Perhaps Apple changed a parameter in iOS which forces the device to consume battery life faster in the Samsung Chips over the TSMC Chips. The Apple vs. Samsung drama goes on, 😀

Seriously, Samsung having a smaller die-size should equivocally mean better battery life here. Something doesn't add up here for the 6s. I'd prefer Samsung over TSMC any day, not because I've been having Samsung devices in addition to iOS devices for quite a while now. Samsung perfected the 14nm process in their Exynos SoC's. Do note however, Samsung and TSMC are still in the same league at the end of the day.

 

[convergent]

Perhaps Apple changed a parameter in iOS which forces the device to consume battery life faster in the Samsung Chips over the TSMC Chips. The Apple vs. Samsung drama goes on, 😀

Seriously, Samsung having a smaller die-size should equivocally mean better battery life here. Something doesn't add up here for the 6s. I'd prefer Samsung over TSMC any day, not because I've been having Samsung devices in addition to iOS devices for quite a while now. Samsung perfected the 14nm process in their Exynos SoC's. Do note however, Samsung and TSMC are still in the same league at the end of the day.

I disagree with your assumption that smaller die-size equates to better battery life. Smaller die-size can lead to greater heat, and greater heat could lead to less batter life. Also, the smaller die-size should equate to better performance given shorter paths. But the bottom line is all of these are meeting the supplier spec for the iPhone, or they wouldn't be in them... and their is great variability in all components, regardless.

 

[ABC5S]

I disagree with your assumption that smaller die-size equates to better battery life. Smaller die-size can lead to greater heat, and greater heat could lead to less batter life. Also, the smaller die-size should equate to better performance given shorter paths. But the bottom line is all of these are meeting the supplier spec for the iPhone, or they wouldn't be in them... and their is great variability in all components, regardless.

Then why is Intel making smaller and smaller CPU die sets? And they are cooler.

 

[convergent]

Then why is Intel making smaller and smaller CPU die sets? And they are cooler.

All semiconductor makers are driving to smaller size to gain speed and space benefits. A side effect CAN be heat problems.

I didn't say its a given... my comment was simply that the inverse wasn't a given, which is what you were saying.

 

[johnhurley]

The iPhone 7 will be running an 128 bit intel chip that's not yet announced.

 

[HEK]

The iPhone 7 will be running an 128 bit intel chip that's not yet announced.

No, the Intel chip will be the radio chip replacing the Qualcomm radio chip. The SoC will be TSMC. Get your rumors straight.

 

[Elisha]

No, the Intel chip will be the radio chip replacing the Qualcomm radio chip. The SoC will be TSMC. Get your rumors straight.

Yeah that's the rumour anyway. Intel supposedly has a dedicated team working to make some headway with Apple on the radio part. Eventually they will make the SoC as well if they can actually come up with something better than the competitors.