My theory on why apple keeps letting the 4S have the newest updates

Discussion in 'iPhone' started by Guinea, Oct 11, 2015.

  1. Guinea macrumors newbie


    Sep 20, 2015
    St, Louis Missouri, USA
    I believe that apple lets iphone 4S users have the newest IOS updates, even though the phone is several years old because, with every update the software cant handle the ammount of processing power required to run it. So, the phone becomes slow and laggy, and the customer goes out and buys a 6S plus. The. End.

  2. bambooshots macrumors 65816


    Jul 25, 2013
    You honestly don't think you're the first guy to come up with this, do you?
  3. Guinea thread starter macrumors newbie


    Sep 20, 2015
    St, Louis Missouri, USA
    Not really, just wanted to talk about it
  4. TechGod macrumors 68040


    Feb 25, 2014
    New Zealand
  5. James6s macrumors regular


    Sep 22, 2015
    Cumbria, UK
  6. metsjetsfan macrumors 65816

    Feb 2, 2011
    a lot if people still have them. people who are older and rarely use their phone rarely upgrade. its also brand management. there are much easier ways for them to make the phone laggy
  7. Guinea thread starter macrumors newbie


    Sep 20, 2015
    St, Louis Missouri, USA
    I said "Several" not seven.. read more carefully lol
  8. whodatrr macrumors 6502a


    Jan 12, 2004
    Supporting older releases is baggage for any software company. More compiles, more complex testing, more design considerations, dealing with limitations, etc. It hampers them to the point that it makes innovation difficult. At some point they have to stop worrying so much about the user experience on these older platforms, because doing so will impact the user experience on newer ones. At that intersection, you'll likely get a release or two that are somewhat painful to endure. After that, the vendor will simply stop supporting it, looking forward instead of back.

    C'Este'La vie... this isn't by design, it's just accepted practice. To keep moving forward, at some point, you have to limit how far you look back.
  9. hawon macrumors member

    Sep 8, 2009
    If any company can come up with the security patches without upgrade whole OS would be great. My iPhone 5c from work is definitely struggling with iOS 9 but it's a fair trade off since iOS 8 wasn't so good in my opinion.
  10. Gathomblipoob macrumors 601


    Mar 18, 2009
    Is it National Stream of Consciousness Day already?
  11. AppleFan91, Oct 11, 2015
    Last edited: Oct 11, 2015

    AppleFan91 macrumors 65816


    Sep 11, 2012
    Indy, US
    This thread is poo. Except the picture. Kudos for finding a picture of a snail chilling on an iPhone
  12. T'hain Esh Kelch macrumors 601

    T'hain Esh Kelch

    Aug 5, 2001
    Most likely because they keep selling the 4S, and not giving it the latest update would look bad.
  13. lordofthereef macrumors G5


    Nov 29, 2011
    Boston, MA
    If Apple releases an update on legacy hardware it's because they want the hardware to run like crap so people upgrade. If Apple doesn't release an update on legacy hardware it's because they don't want to give people the newest software to entice them to upgrade.

    I think you might see where I'm going with this? What is the OP advocating exactly? Is it better to see updates for multiple years or is it better to have Apple drop support after 2-3?
  14. mtneer macrumors 68030


    Sep 15, 2012
    Actually why on earth did you upgrade that phone beyond iOS 6 or maybe 7?? It's well known that newer iOS's tax older phones heavily. Sometimes, I just wish Apple would choose not to support iPhones beyond 1 upgrade, like most Android phones. That way, my phone would feel as snappy as it did on day 1; until the hardware gives out.
  15. asleep macrumors 68040


    Sep 26, 2007
  16. eyoungren macrumors Core


    Aug 31, 2011
    ten-zero-eleven-zero-zero by zero-two
    I thought Apple finally killed the 4s when they introduced the 6/6+.

    Why are we still talking about this iPhone?!

    Do not take my dancing on the iPhone 4/4s' grave away from me!
  17. aiyaaabatt macrumors 6502

    Aug 25, 2013
  18. mupet0000 macrumors newbie

    Dec 21, 2006
    To be fair, the iPhone 4S was the first iPhone with a dual-core chip. The iPhone 6S also has a dual-core chip, although substantially more powerful, the 4S can still run multithreaded apps, therefore it can technically keep up, although it won't be as fast.
  19. silverblack macrumors 68030


    Nov 27, 2007
    Apple did it because they are being responsible and many iPhone 4S owners would prefer to have the choice to upgrade their phones iOS.

    The fact that 4S was included as compatible devices with iOS 9 makes it less obsolete, not the other way around.

    4S owners always have the choice not to update. Be grateful that Apple is offering it as an option. Many Android phones users aren't as fortunate.
  20. Small White Car macrumors G4

    Small White Car

    Aug 29, 2006
    Washington DC
    In an alternate universe where Apple doesn't provide software updates for old phones...

    "You just know that Apple could update these old phones but they don't because they're trying to keep them from gaining any new features so you'll be forced to go out and buy the new phones! It's called planned obsolescence."

  21. Tubamajuba macrumors 68020

    Jun 8, 2011
    Done with MacRumors, the trolls have won
    Nothing short of magically downloading the latest A-series SoC to every iOS device will keep people from pulling the "planned obsolescence card".

    And even then, people will be crying about Apple not including a larger screen in the download!
  22. willmtaylor macrumors G3


    Oct 31, 2009
    A Natural State
    Stop saying "planned obsolescence." Apple supports legacy devices better than any other mobile company. I also see many more older macs still running fine than other PCs (E.g. my wife's 2007 MBP and my 2009 iMac).

    What would you suggest as an alternative? No new hardware? No new software for said new hardware? Don't update to newest software or buy the new hardware. End of story.

    Good grief.
  23. DomC macrumors 6502


    Jul 28, 2010
    I still don't understand why Apple won't let users decide which OS they want to run on their device with the knowledge they won't get system or app updates with an older OS. New software can still be developed for newer devices and if Apple deems an older device worthy, then users can test it out. If it doesn't work right for them, they could go back to what they want knowing they're freezing themselves out of anything new.

    This method seems to work fine with OSX.
  24. doboy macrumors 68020

    Jul 6, 2007
    Apple gets dinged if they upgrade the older phones and they get dinged when they don't. People bitch either way.
  25. redheeler macrumors 604


    Oct 17, 2014
    Nobody is being forced to update to iOS 9 on the 4s. But they are given the option to do so, in exchange for the latest app support and features. This actually extends the useful life of the 4s, especially as iOS 9 will likely get better over time.

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