Mysterious Box Arrivals...Current PowerMac Stock Diminishing

[IJ Reilly]

If even half of these rumors come true, Steve will be on stage for 6 1/2 hours. I hope he decides to shave in the morning, or by the time he's done with the presentation, he's going to look like Tom Hanks talking to a soccer ball.

BTW still no evidence of a media event next week and of course no streaming coverage. It's hard to imagine Apple rolling out any of these many products to a room full of cola addicts and little or no media. Something's got to give here, I just don't know what.

 

[Captnroger]

This article is crap - I can buy a dual 1.4 tower today, same day shipping, from the Apple store.

I hope I'm surprised come next week, but I doubt we're going to see the 970s. A new PB, probably, but I doubt we'll see new towers.

 

[dabirdwell]

That's MacGuyver

or is it McGuyver

 

[RHutch]

Don't trust those quotes

Originally posted by Captnroger
This article is crap - I can buy a dual 1.4 tower today, same day shipping, from the Apple store.

I hope I'm surprised come next week, but I doubt we're going to see the 970s. A new PB, probably, but I doubt we'll see new towers.

I wouldn't put so much faith in the quotes on the store. When I bought my dual 1.25 with 22" monitor, the tower was shipping in 3-5 days and the monitor in 1-3. Yeah right. My tower shipped 17 days later. My monitor never shipped because, even though they said 1-3 days, they didn't have any more. My 23" monitor didn't ship for 19 days.

Apple wants you to order. I don't think they are going to put up something that says "Shipping in 2 weeks." Some people might take their money elsewhere instead of waiting.

 

[dabirdwell]

Originally posted by IJ Reilly
If even half of these rumors come true, Steve will be on stage for 6 1/2 hours. I hope he decides to shave in the morning, or by the time he's done with the presentation, he's going to look like Tom Hanks talking to a soccer ball.

BTW still no evidence of a media event next week and of course no streaming coverage. It's hard to imagine Apple rolling out any of these many products to a room full of cola addicts and little or no media. Something's got to give here, I just don't know what.

What is this about? I thought Apple was touting this as revolutionary for the future of computing, or something. I also thought they were broadcasting the event.

 

[scan300]

Originally posted by michaelrjohnson
This event more than ANY other I can remember will be the one to make or break many rumor sites... there has been some wild speculation and reputations are at stake!

Aah but if all the rumours were true it would be a news site. The best part of these rumour sites is their mix of truth, fantasy and hoaxes.

You only need a few rumours to be true and some near misses, but you need meaty conjecture to make a great rumour site.

For me, trying to pick the truth out of all the crap is the lure.

 

[scan300]

Originally posted by IJ Reilly

BTW still no evidence of a media event next week and of course no streaming coverage. It's hard to imagine Apple rolling out any of these many products to a room full of cola addicts and little or no media. Something's got to give here, I just don't know what.

An Apple press release on their web site states:
'CUPERTINO, California?May 8, 2003?Apple® today announced that Steve Jobs will kick off its Worldwide Developers Conference (WWDC) with a keynote on Monday, June 23, 2003, beginning at 10:00 a.m. (PDT) at San Francisco?s Moscone West. '

Press release can be found here: http://www.apple.com/pr/library/2003/may/08wwdc.html

 

[gotohamish]

Re: G5 powerbooks I say

Originally posted by drizahy4
Thats what i say. G5 towers as well as G5 powerbooks. Just saying "This is the year of the powerbook!" aint no better way than to announce it early.

No one ever said "year of the powerbook" - it was "year of the notebook" - very different. Perhaps only to include the iBook., and whatever else falls out of Steve's sleeves this year

 

[iindigo]

Anyone think Q6 might be the headless iMac?

 

[Mr. Anderson]

Originally posted by iindigo
Anyone think Q6 might be the headless iMac?

Ah, nice, not the Cube, but the Dome?

Makes sense to have a low end that you can put a monitor on, like a 20" or 23"....

So much potential, the reality will most likely not be as big as our imaginations....

D

 

[Laslo Panaflex]

Originally posted by MasonMcD
Blackriders sense the ring, just by being near it.

Bluetooth/Airport thin-client OS?

WOW, thats a startling revelation, I think that you could be on to something. Apple does make most of its money on hardware, Q6 could be another piece of hardware genius.

 

[IJ Reilly]

Originally posted by scan300
An Apple press release on their web site states:
'CUPERTINO, California?May 8, 2003?Apple today announced that Steve Jobs will kick off its Worldwide Developers Conference (WWDC) with a keynote on Monday, June 23, 2003, beginning at 10:00 a.m. (PDT) at San Francisco?s Moscone West. '

Ordinarily (at a MW Expo keynote) the first 20-30 rows of the hall are packed with media people. As nearly as I can tell, there's been no general media invite to the keynote at WWDC. I asked Apple PR about media access to this event and received no reply.

 

[scan300]

Originally posted by IJ Reilly
As nearly as I can tell, there's been no general media invite to the keynote at WWDC.

The press release gose on to say:
"Press Registration--
Members of the media and industry analysts are invited to attend the keynote and can register by contacting Josh Morgan at (408) 974-7149 or joshm@apple.com. "

Press releases traditionally, in many organisations, are both posted to the PR manager's media contacts directly (fax/email etc) as well as being posted on the web site.

Add to this the number of Apple stores which are holding an event of some sort, and there seems to be enough of an event happening.

 

[pyrotoaster]

Originally posted by IJ Reilly
BTW still no evidence of a media event next week and of course no streaming coverage. It's hard to imagine Apple rolling out any of these many products to a room full of cola addicts and little or no media. Something's got to give here, I just don't know what.

I think a massively hyped (by Apple) keynote being streamed to every single Apple Store (with a Theater) in the Country might just qualify as a "media event".

Originally posted by Captnroger
This article is crap - I can buy a dual 1.4 tower today, same day shipping, from the Apple store.

I hope I'm surprised come next week, but I doubt we're going to see the 970s. A new PB, probably, but I doubt we'll see new tower

1. The online Apple Store isn't all-knowing
2. Think Secret is probably the most reliable and accurate rumor site right now. I'd be willing to bet money that they're right.

Originally posted by iindigo
Anyone think Q6 might be the headless iMac?

No. Q6 is either a Powerbook (I wouldn't be surprised if the PB had a different codename, though), an iBook (doubtful, but possible), or a Digital Gadgety Lifestyle Gizmo.

 

[pyrotoaster]

The codename game...

There's a little pattern to be uncovered in many of Apple's codenames. Here's something I noticed and posted at MacUnderground.

On the topic of Q6, codenames like that generally follow a certain group of products. Here's one of the best examples:
iMac DV (P7), iMac G4 (P80), iMac 17" (P79), eMac (P69) Original iBook (P1), FireWire iBook (P1.5), Original Chiclet iBook (P29), Second Chiclet iBook (P92), 14" iBook (P54).

If you go even further back, there's the Pismo (P8), The GB Ethernet TiBook (P25), the current TiBook (P88), the original MDD Powermacs (P57 and P58), and the 23" Cinema display (P63).

The closest reference to the letter Q is the in Powerbook G3 that came after the "Wallstreet" model. It was codenamed "PDQ".

BTW, as for the Lord of the Rings stuff, back in the late 80s, there was a series of LaserWriters named Solo, Leia, and Darth Vader. Just a little interesting...

 

[3.1416]

Re: Software

Originally posted by rjstanford
And, alas, still no mention of the one piece of software Apple could really use -- iWorks (or some other office suite that's OSX native and can read/write office files).

I'd be very surprised if Apple doesn't have such a project well underway internally. But it won't be released until MS dumps Mac Office (which will probably happen when they release Longhorn, possibly earlier).

 

[Rocketman]

Re: Mysterious Box Arrivals. Current PowerMac Stock Diminishing

Originally posted by MacQuest
Some more fuel for the inferno.

"This comes as Apple has reportedly been supplying its Apple retail stores with boxes scheduled to be opened Monday afternoon, and not before then, first noted by MacRumors earlier in the week."

Taken from ThinkSecret:

http://thinksecret.com/news/channelnewswwdc.html

Yeah MacRumors and MacRumorMongers.

If they released a low-end 970 it ought to at least have the sales of Powermacs and iMacs combined.

An upscale processor could easily be a quad or a bladerunner-tm.

Rocketman.

 

[deepkid]

wouldn't be smart

Originally posted by macfreek57
that's what i thought initially when i read the article.
seems wierd that this is the first time we hear about "q6" and the speak of it so matter-of-factly. not to say that their making it up, but why would they do that and not even provide any supporting evidence or possibly relate their source for information.
just a thought

Why would they reveal their source(s)? That wouldn't be smart at all.

ThinkSecret has a pretty good track record, but as with ALL of these sites ... rumors until proven.

On that subject, its disturbing to see a number of rumor sites take holier-than-thou attitude toward other rumor sites. Pot calling kettle?

 

[pyrotoaster]

On the subject of Q6 and Q8:
The Newton was codenamed Q.

 

[RHutch]

Re: Re: Software

Originally posted by 3.1416
I'd be very surprised if Apple doesn't have such a project well underway internally. But it won't be released until MS dumps Mac Office (which will probably happen when they release Longhorn, possibly earlier).

While there hasn't been much talk of iWorks for WWDC, this Apple project has been talked about quite a bit in the rumor forums. And, LoopRumors has a post today saying that Apple has cut back the work on this project for fear of having M$ stop working on Office, thus hurting the "Switch" campaign.

 

[Rocketman]

Re: The codename game...

Originally posted by pyrotoaster
There's a little pattern to be uncovered in many of Apple's codenames. Here's something I noticed and posted at MacUnderground.

On the topic of Q6, codenames like that generally follow a certain group of products. Here's one of the best examples:
iMac DV (P7), iMac G4 (P80), iMac 17" (P79), eMac (P69) Original iBook (P1), FireWire iBook (P1.5), Original Chiclet iBook (P29), Second Chiclet iBook (P92), 14" iBook (P54).

If you go even further back, there's the Pismo (P8), The GB Ethernet TiBook (P25), the current TiBook (P88), the original MDD Powermacs (P57 and P58), and the 23" Cinema display (P63).

The closest reference to the letter Q is the in Powerbook G3 that came after the "Wallstreet" model. It was codenamed "PDQ".

BTW, as for the Lord of the Rings stuff, back in the late 80s, there was a series of LaserWriters named Solo, Leia, and Darth Vader. Just a little interesting...

I think PQ is a major motherboard topology like voltage and bandwidth.

On that basis there were major bandwidth breaks at Mac+, II, 030, 601, G3, G4 and now G6/970

P. The numbers are almost a linear progression. Some scatter due to processing delays.

I want a Q

Rocketman

 

[cubist]

Pyrotoaster, are you saying that, to public knowledge, no Q-numbers have been used yet?

In these rumors we've heard Q6 and Q8, and I think we heard Q36 for the new Power Mac.

What were the numbers for the MDD Power Mac? For the Cube? For the TAM?

 

[shecky]

i think that Q6/Blackrider could very well be an Apple branded Media Server, ala the HP Digital Media Reciever

This would serve media to an entire househousehold, use Airport + ethernet. have a big HD, firewire + usb to put media directly onto the device, have integrated QT technology, etc..

it would run a light build of OS X to serve the data. You could have your iTunes library, iPhoto library, QT videos etc.. maybe it even has some TiVo functionality to it as well.

it could happen.

 

[clith]

Smaller box -- separate videocam component of PowerMac?

Maybe the separate litle box is a videocam, as some have said, but it's shipped as *part of the PowerMac*. It's just that I am reminded of the SGI Indy, which shipped with a built-in "IndyCam", which came in its own little box, separate from the CPU itself.

Of course, this would require some software, likely the oft-mentioned new version of iChat with built-in videoconferencing capability (and hopefully support for ICQ and other IM protocols).

As a wildcard, I will throw in that I hope the PowrMac 970 uses PCI Express instead of PCI. Goodbye AGP! This would require new video cards though -- and ATI won't be shipping their PCI Express card until later this year at the earliest. Ah well.

 

[Rootman]

970 speed

Given 64 bits, about how much faster would a 970 have to be compared to a 700 MHz G4 to make up for the time I've spent on these forums?