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Mysterious 'Set Top Box' Shipment Records Hint at Refreshed Apple TV Coming Soon
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I'd rather see an update to the iOS remote app so you could just go directly to what you want (as opposed to navigating the menus), like when controlling iTunes with it.
You are right...they are related. But they have released iOS7 for aTV for testing. What have you heard about it's "new features"? iRadio, that's about it.
There is no need for a hardware upgrade at this point. What it really needs is a breakthrough with content providers. And that has become an excruciatingly slow process. When that happens you will see the aTV get it's "show". It has really nothing to do with iOS7 and therefore doesn't need to be tied to the iOS7 introduction.
I reiterate, IMHO they will do nothing (other than maybe hints of the future at the end of the presentation) that will take away from iOS7 and the new iPhones. That's where they want the customer focus to be...purchasing high end/high profit items.
No worse. It can't go through walls as well, but it can support a higher throughput
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so then 16gb will be next
"Set Top Box with Communication Function" could easily just mean Apple TV and Remote in Customs / Shipping talk.
The cheapest, easiest, and arguably most in demand way to bring content to the apple TV is to give it an app store. I honestly don't understand how it doesn't have one already - Even as a "hobby" that is really just a glorified netflix and itunes delivery box, people buy it over other boxes that do so, so much more (roku, boxee, etc). If Apple really wants to make Apple TV more than a hobby, it needs an app store...30% of all purchases beats 30% of nothing.
It will be pretty frustrating if Apple can't manage it again this year...we want to give them money, but they can't seem to see it.
It will be pretty frustrating if Apple can't manage it again this year...we want to give them money, but they can't seem to see it.
Only? 802.11ac would be huge with my 802.11ac Extreme.
Can never have too much streaming capacity. Also another way to sell more new Extremes.
The WiFi on the current gen is 150Mbps btw. On second gen it was 65Mbps. Maybe if the next one does 11ac it'll get another spatial stream and actually get 300Mbps? Would be nice.
My exact thoughts. I already love the current apple tv. I can just imagine not having to be dependent on cable tv.
As I previously pointed out, many people have other traffic on their local network, whether it's Wifi or Ethernet.
That means switching to a sub-optimal frequency because the one which works best given your set of local obstructions is in use by someone else. In practice, this is a common reason why real-world Wifi throughput is often way below theoretical limits.
That assumes (and it's a strong assumption) that once the Apple TV "has buffered some portion of the stream" that it will never exhaust that buffer. In the real world, buffer exhaustion happens a lot because ISPs, especially cable companies, give low priority to media served by other providers. Every packet dropped due to congestion or other troubles on the local network means another packet that has to be sent across the Internet connection.
Wrong. As I previously pointed out, many people have other traffic on their local networks (that is not coming from the ISP). If you don't understand that, you've obviously never lived with a girlfriend or boyfriend.
802.11ac is a big deal for Apple TV -- for some users.
An App Store on the Apple TV would not translate well because the ios apps are designed to be "touch based".
You would look like a fool touching the TV screen all day playing a game or such. The apps from ios would have to be re-coded strictly for Apple TV and not any of the touch based devices.
If you wanted to play ios games on your tv, all you needed was a mirroring app to do that from your iPad or iPhone.
I don't need an Apple TV because some of the apps such as Netflix are already on my ps3.
For anyone using airplay screen mirroring, 802.11ac will be a welcome addition. It should help reduce the lag and compression artifacts.
I'm just saying it might be the beginning of the end for those gaming platforms if apple has a strong first outing in gaming. You don't think apple could design a ps or Xbox killer in the next 2-3 years?
having own both a chromecast and an appletv, i can tell you that chromecast is extremely flexible, but appletv is just such a better experience.
my laptop can't find my chromecast half the time
my laptop can't find my chromecast half the time
Oh man...now I regretted buying the 'latest' Apple TV a few months ago
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Where I came from, my internet speed is 5MBps, watching movies on Apple TV means I have let it load 1 hour beforehand to avoid any interruption halfway, not that it always happen, but just to be sure it didn't spoil the movie
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Where I came from, my internet speed is 5MBps, watching movies on Apple TV means I have let it load 1 hour beforehand to avoid any interruption halfway, not that it always happen, but just to be sure it didn't spoil the movie
Apple have an iOS App Store and a Mac App Store. An Apple TV App Store would be a third App Store. Obviously, the apps would not be compatible, but many would be easy to port from iOS. There is no need for and there would be little advantage to binary compatibility between iOS apps and Apple TV apps.
Not all Apple TV owners (or potential owners) have an iPad or iPhone. Apple TV is a fraction the price of an iPad or iPhone and a good way to get new customers into the Apple fold. Apple TV owners may go on to later buy an iPad, iPhone, or Mac. Apple TV is inexpensive enough to make a gift for many people who would not give an iPad or iPhone.
I think you missed the point. They would switch for compatible radio chipsets. Beam forming only works if ac is on both ends. There are benefits to upgrading beyond bandwidth.
About the only thing that would get me to upgrade would be storage and DTS support. I find myself using my old WD Live as much or more than the Apple TV because of this. The interface makes my eyes hurt but it has native storage support and plex along with better audio.
Games don't interest me at all, I have gaming systems for that. Wireless doesn't matter to me as I have it wired but I can certainly understand that's not the norm so AC would be a welcome addition.
Only other thing that could influence me to update is better media deal and availability. If they could get a deal with ESPN directly I'd buy it. (direcTV isn't a partner, boo.)
Games don't interest me at all, I have gaming systems for that. Wireless doesn't matter to me as I have it wired but I can certainly understand that's not the norm so AC would be a welcome addition.
Only other thing that could influence me to update is better media deal and availability. If they could get a deal with ESPN directly I'd buy it. (direcTV isn't a partner, boo.)
Your deduction skills are lacking; I live with my family (wife and multiple kids), and constantly have multiple iTunes/Netflix/Hulu streams going simultaneously (we don't subscribe to cable TV). My broadband speed is 50 Mbps, and since September 1st (5 days ago), we've already used 42 GB of broadband data. I've never seen any issues with the ATV buffering (~15 seconds) and there is no buffer exhaustion thereafter.
So is my situation different than most users? If anything, most users will have lesser broadband speed, which will even further limit their throughput for streaming. 802.11ac will not make your stream buffer any faster. It might give you a little more range, and provide a little less interference.
I hadn't thought of this; 802.11ac could reduce the AirPlay buffer/latency significantly. This might be the real driver to add 802.11ac.
Point not missed; previously discussed in this tread. 802.11ac is 5 GHz only, which has lower penetration through walls. Beamforming makes up for this, but it is still unclear whether it significantly improves range beyond what 802.11n 2.4 GHz provides. The new Airport Extreme still supports 802.11n (it's not like adding 802.11ac makes everything incompatible).
You missed my point entirely...Yes, the Apple TV would need proprietary apps written for it. But what exactly would stop that from happening? Like I said - People WANT apps on their apple TV's. If people want it, they will pay for it just like they do on other iOS devices. If people will pay or ad revenue can be had, developers will develop. So why isn't there an app store for the apple TV? I never said it needs THE app store and it needs to run current iOS apps...I said it needs AN app store.
Only? 802.11ac would be huge with my 802.11ac Extreme.
Can never have too much streaming capacity. Also another way to sell more new Extremes.
Streaming capacity is one thing. But what about your actual download rates which are determined by your ISP? Most residential users are capped pretty hard with Time Warner unless you're paying through the nose. Hell, I'm not even lucky enough to be able to get another ISP in my area.. locked to TWC with their crappy 20mbps speeds paying $70 a month!
Even so.. right this very moment, I'm downloading 10 episodes of Continuum (Netflix only has season 1.. so disappointing) at an average speed of 1.5 MBps total, while streaming a movie from Netflix on my Xbox 360 in HD and get zero lag or stuttering/jaggies. So tell me again why AC is so special unless you're downloading tons of stuff and have the bandwidth to back it up in the first place?