Nobody has made a box...ANY box...with 100Mbit ethernet since 2005. My 7 year old junky Dell has gigabit.
I was floored when I found out my latest gen ATV only had 100Mbit ethernet while it had much faster wifi.
I think that a good strategy would be the AppleTv combined with an Airport Express for $99. The margin wouldn't be great but it would have the potential to increase market share and make up for the margin with long term usage. It would simplefy setup and usage.
Eh. Couldn't really care less about the Apple TV. iTV, that's another story. Doesn't the Chromecast, that's 65% cheaper put the Apple TV to shame anyways, price-performance wise?
Everything has been leaked, sorry but I don't believe in surprises that much anymore.
Yes, but the advantage is minimal1. Range.
So your 802.11n 300 Mbps theoretical throughput is degraded down to < 4 Mbps (1080p stream)?2. Real-world bandwidth through walls, etc. is degraded from theoretical limits.
How does 802.11ac solve this? If you answer "because they are still using 802.11n", then you fail; just change your WiFi channel (also, most routers automatically do this).3. Interference from neighbors with Wifi.
Once the ATV has buffered some portion of the stream, packet fluctuation will not affect performance. Also, your throughput will still be limited by your broadband internet speed and the iTunes/Netflix servers, of which neither will saturate 802.11n.4. Streaming requires getting as much as you can when you can, because availability of packets fluctuates.
Again, your broadband internet speed will be the limiting factor in this scenario, not your WiFi throughput.5. Other applications on one's Wifi network may be using some of the available bandwidth.
It's a piece of hardware that doesn't do anything without other piece of hardware supplying it with instructions, is what he was getting at.
No.
And enjoy sending everything you watch to Google's servers....
Except, of course, for actual local files on your computer that it can't even play.
The TV is just an output device, not a command and control device. You can use an Apple TV or Roku or whatever without any additional hardware whatsoever apart from the TV and an internet connection. With the Chromecast, you need all that plus a smartphone or tablet, which, in reality, not everyone owns.Yes, other hardware that everyone owns already. The barrier for use is non-existent. Might as well say the Apple TV is useless if you don't have a TV. It's a meaningless argument for both, since you buy both with an understanding of the limitations.
If it's an atv it's probably just a refresh to support AC wifi.
We've ditched cable in my house with an Apple TV and an external HD antenna. All the local channels, netflix, and iTunes cover our needs. Saves about $60-100 a month depending on what we buy on iTunes. So easy my 3 year old can operate it. Make the jump, you will never look back.
I don't have a TV myself so not in the market for an Apple TV but I understand it doesn't even come with iPlayer. Is that true? That does make it sort of a pointless device.Unless they add some more content/channels an Apple Television would be a complete waste of time in the UK right now. I think the current AppleTV box is going to be around for a good while yet, at least outside the US.
For all you commenters wishing for 802.11ac WiFi, it's not likely going to happen.
1080p Streaming = ~4 Mbps
10/100 ethernet = 100 Mbps
802.11n WiFi = 300 Mbps
Broadband Internet = ~25-50 Mbps
Streaming 1080p content does not saturate the existing ethernet or WiFi links, let alone your broadband internet link, so why would Apple add 802.11ac to the device? It would increase the cost of the device with no effective performance gain.
For all you commenters wishing for 802.11ac WiFi, it's not likely going to happen.
1080p Streaming = ~4 Mbps
10/100 ethernet = 100 Mbps
802.11n WiFi = 300 Mbps
Broadband Internet = ~25-50 Mbps
Streaming 1080p content does not saturate the existing ethernet or WiFi links, let alone your broadband internet link, so why would Apple add 802.11ac to the device? It would increase the cost of the device with no effective performance gain.
4Mbps would be quite a compressed 1080p stream, so you'd likely see compression artefacts.
Believe it or not, some people actually have more than one thing going on at a time across their network. Not everybody lives by themselves and only ever has a single 1080p stream going across their network and nothing else.
Believe it or not, some people actually have more than one thing going on at a time across their network. Not everybody lives by themselves and only ever has a single 1080p stream going across their network and nothing else.
NFL Sunday Ticket on the Apple TV and I'm all set. I was just about to buy a second Apple TV for the basement. Maybe I'll wait until 9/10.
The Chromecast is a joke even at $35. Good idea if Apple TV/Roku/SmartTvs/Any other streamer didn't exist. Maybe it'll be better in the future so I can get my Amazon Video on my tv unless Apple TV brings it first.
Right now, I am using my Chromecast as a dust cover for my HDMI 2 on the back of my TV. It works great for that!
I'm guessing that if you look at the picture below, you'll tell me it's half empty. Let some of us think it's half full, please.
I don't have a TV myself so not in the market for an Apple TV but I understand it doesn't even come with iPlayer. Is that true? That does make it sort of a pointless device.
Everyone's getting "the fever" over nothing. There will be no aTV announcement next week. It will be totally focused on iOS7 and iPhones.
Sorry to bust the bubble.![]()
Yes, it relies on other devices, not ONLY the TV and network connection, like the Apple TV.The TV is just an output device, not a command and control device. You can use an Apple TV or Roku or whatever without any additional hardware whatsoever apart from the TV and an internet connection. With the Chromecast, you need all that plus a smartphone or tablet, which, in reality, not everyone owns.
Plus, streaming from a computer to the Chromecast is not the same as streaming from the set-top box. With an Apple TV or Roku you can use the device to access resources directly from PCs or the internet. The Chromecast can only receive and display, can't fetch. That means you have to use your PC as a primitive (and huge) remote control if you don't have a smartphone. If you do have a smartphone, then you still have to wait for app loading and connecting in order to skip songs or whatever. Smartphone controlled home entertainment is neat, but horrible as a primary usage scenario.