NAB Final Cut Supermeet Coverage

[Alpi69]

Audio

It is all we wanted and a bit more. When i played with iMovie 11 I thought....wow, if they would bring this and that to FCP...and now they did.
It looks like a mutant of FAST-Liquid-Edius-FCP and iMovie using the best of all of them and some more.

The regional clip-tagging alone is a rockstar feature. When you have long interviews you tag keywords into the segments.....great great tool.

I only hope we are still able to properly route the audio to certain tracks (e.g. atmos on A1, interviews on A2, music+mix A3/A4 with pan to -1 and +1,...

But I am sure APPLE did implement these pro-features; lot´s of the very iportant pro-stuff is a bit lame and boring on a keynote......so they showed the bells and whistles instead.

Now....Motion and Color....hope they will be upgraded and get a good import-export-script as well. Then I will be a happy camper

 

[Alpi69]

So now the question is do I still need to transcode to pro res my avchd footage

For sure...AVCHD is not a codec to edit with. In fact is not a good aquisition codec at all either. We all use it, but we all know it is a vrey bad chocie, but your stuck with it on many cheaper cameras.

I am more interested if FCP will finally import DvcProHD and others natively without rewrapping to a QT file.

 

[Chupa Chupa]

Holy smoke what is with all the bitching in this thread?

Welcome to Mac Rumors.

As they say bitches will bitch. FCPX looks pretty good to me but I can't wait to get Alex Lindsay's impression on TWIM this afternoon.

 

[PeterQVenkman]

Looks nice. Can't beat that price, either.

 

[Mattie Num Nums]

Eeeh?!? I say every tool helps. If I get a tool that can color shot and counter shot differently because it recognizes a face, I say groovy!

Indexing old stuff looking for faces: go for it, the need of the "pro" is whatever it is. All this pretending there is some uniform pro way of working is the most amateurish idea around. There is only the end result, how you get there doesn't matter to the viewer.


... oh damn sucked into another pointless statement hah... yeah FCP renders slow...

Thats not a good statement. Most "Pro's" have standardized ways of doing things because it makes business easier. I know at my job everything is done a certain way so that they can pick up freelancers whenever they can to do grunt work in FCP. Just doing it any ole way to get the same end result doesn't always mean its the same result. The process to make those results is extremely important especially for people working on large teams of freelancers.

 

[3282868]

Welcome to Mac Rumors.

AMEN. As they say, opinions are like ***holes, everybody has one and they all stink

I haven't read the full info/article, but I'm wondering why my friend working on the team said she wasn't impressed. From what I've read it seems to be a good update.

 

[The Captain]

Eeeh?!? I say every tool helps. If I get a tool that can color shot and counter shot differently because it recognizes a face, I say groovy!

Indexing old stuff looking for faces: go for it, the need of the "pro" is whatever it is. All this pretending there is some uniform pro way of working is the most amateurish idea around. There is only the end result, how you get there doesn't matter to the viewer.


... oh damn sucked into another pointless statement hah... yeah FCP renders slow...

I feel sad for your clients, if you leave anything solely up to the program to decide (such as recognition, and CC).

 

[haysoos123]

I feel sad for your clients, if you leave anything solely up to the program to decide (such as recognition, and CC).

Huh? The face recognition seems like it's for organizational purposes. How does this have any bearing on the cut? If the cut is great and the client is happy, why would you feel sad for them? This is a case of wait and see if this feature is any good, and use it or don't. What's the problem?

Also, why not have auto color correction? You don't have to use it. Photoshop has auto color and level, so you think they should take it out because it's not "pro"? Nobody said you're going to use it for final color grading. I can think of scenarios where you might want to use it in a professional environment. What if it gets you 80% of the way there for a shot, and then you can tweak? Maybe you have a tight deadline and the client wants to see a cut, and you need to make it look "passable" really quickly. You are nowhere near onlining, final grading.

All I'm saying is, we should always be looking for ways to streamline our workflows. I would think that a post supervisor at a large house would be looking to evaluate the software and see how things can be changed up to be more efficient.

 

[totoum]

Nobody said you're going to use it for final color grading.

Even in the video of the presentation,they says its goal is to be a "starting point" to grading that you can work on and fine tune later.

 

[SamEllens]

hmm... I've just edited a video for a uni project in After Effects... and having done another video in FCP before I thought these two programmes had similar interfaces though AE was much better though I do like FCP's automatic snapping when dragging video clips around.

As for this preview for the new FCPX, quite a few features I thought were great (especially audio clean up), but not so sure on the layout (similarity to iMovie) and compared to AE all the buttons and knobs are clearly allocated... But yeah I'm keen to give it a try.

You edited a video in After Effects and found the experience better than in Final Cut? I'd never even considered editing something in AE.

 

[SamEllens]

Wow, looks like the rumours WERE true after all! Apple killed the Pro of Final Cut Pro. That guy who turned the much admired iMovie into garbage has done it again. All they had to do was rewrite the engine with 64 bit support, had proper file handling, rendering titling tools amongst other necessary pro features and keep the same F*&$#@*&& interface as pro users of ANY pro software don't want to re-learn an interface for no reason! It takes YEARS before you really know a software under the hood.

We'll now see FCPx turn into a hit with amateurs and will be completely abandoned by pro users who will all return to avid.

c'mon, do you really think they're going to hide all the features the pros need? It seems most likely that these features will add to the existing complement. Apple is the king of UI - they aren't going to make things difficult for long term users.

One of the screenshots even looks very much like FCP7 - which suggests that there are UI tweaks that make the program more familiar to the stubborn.

And I'm currently working on an AVID, and I can tell you that it will never be my preferred system. I'd be more likely to go to Premiere or Lightworks if I really hated FCP X, haha.

 

[gabrielnaylor]

Wrote a blog entry on my take of Final Cut X

The video leverages all your system has to offer and is fast and intuitive. It seems to have aspects of color built in. There is no manual transcoding necessary as it is media independent. I can also use waveform analysis, face recognition, and scene detection to place an assistant editor at your fingertips. The biggest change though: The new time line...

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