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Napster at 5 Milion Songs
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Well hey I guess all that HUGE percentage of Mac users in the US have such a MASSIVE impact on downloading songs against the "other" 95% of PC users who use iTMS.
montecristo specifically said "all the way down". so, even factoring in terminal velocity, he is still correct. unless of course you are saying it will instantaneously reach terminal velocity.Originally posted by wPod
um, last time i checked, on earth (that is where the empire state building is located) theres a cool thing called an atomosphere which, when soemthing is dropped through it, produces drag. this drag induces a thing called 'terminal velocity' (i think they made a movie called that sometime) so at some point the rate is constant. sorry
In another news story (link forgotton), I saw a mention of "a record 2 million songs legally downloaded last week". They mentioned the majority were from iTunes and Napster, but given Napster has sold 5 million in total, it gives us a fair indication of the current rate of iTunes sales..
There are quite a few songs that I'd happily buy, if only they were available. It would be helpful if there were some way of triggering an email notification when songs matching a specified set of criteria are added to the store. I have at least 10 or 15 songs that I'm waiting for, and it's a pain to have to look for them using the search function or the "added" lists.
I think the article was to do with the extent of illegal file sharing that still exists which was on www.australianit.com.au
It is still great news about iTMS and Apple
Well, Napster was the first to take a successful product in the music download world, bastardize everything the name stood for, and hope that the faithful 'moral-less thieves' would see the light, have a change of heart and start paying for music again.
That also means that buymusic.com hasn't even reached 5 mil yet and they opened for business before Napster didn't they?
Well, given the fact that I see an iPod/iTunes commercial about once a week, and, if it weren't for what I read here, I might not even know about the existence of Napster 2.0, I'd say that the Public does know about iTunes, but probably doesn't know much about Napster.
Does anyone know what's been happening with buymusic.com?
I notice there's no mention of the mass exodus at Napster of almost all its senior execs, or Roxio laying off a bunch of people in the Napster division... HP backed out of a deal with Napster before they went with iTunes and a rebranded iPod...
http://www.miami.com/mld/miamiherald/business/national/7987726.htm
http://www.miami.com/mld/miamiherald/business/national/7987726.htm
Well, if the required install of QT makes it bloated, then it's bloated on both platforms. If, for some reason, you don't have QT installed on your Mac (or don't have the latest version) then iTunes won't work, either.
Hi, I usually lurk :\. But anyway, the fact that iTunes began life as the music jukebox app tells worlds about Apple's direction. The iTunes Music Store was a feature that was added to iTunes; Napster launched with the sole purpose of selling music, and I guess they threw an app in there too (I know nothing of Napster or whatever app you use with it because I simply don't need to.) Even before the iTunes Music Store, Apple was commended for iTunes because it was a well-designed app. That's the root of Apple's success with iTunes, the iPod, and the iTunes Music Store, in my opinion.
Also, the iTunes broke the 5 million sales mark while it was still Mac-only (sorry I don't know the exact number). Around the time, critics were purely marvelling at how many songs were sold to ~3% of the computing market/world. As we can see, Apple hasn't slowed down at all. In my opinion, Apple has finally gotten to the point where "me too" music stores such as BuyMusic.com and possibly Napster (its previous background and stories of its rebirth emerged before iTunes, technically) just can't cut it. By now, whether on Windows or on the Mac, the iPod family is the portable music player, iTunes is the jukebox app, and the iTunes Music Store is the legal music download service. Great job Apple, it's good to see you guys get a lucky break at long last.
Also, the iTunes broke the 5 million sales mark while it was still Mac-only (sorry I don't know the exact number). Around the time, critics were purely marvelling at how many songs were sold to ~3% of the computing market/world. As we can see, Apple hasn't slowed down at all. In my opinion, Apple has finally gotten to the point where "me too" music stores such as BuyMusic.com and possibly Napster (its previous background and stories of its rebirth emerged before iTunes, technically) just can't cut it. By now, whether on Windows or on the Mac, the iPod family is the portable music player, iTunes is the jukebox app, and the iTunes Music Store is the legal music download service. Great job Apple, it's good to see you guys get a lucky break at long last.
50 Million? Try 100 Million!
LOL...50 million? Steve Jobs promised 100 million in the first year. Is he even close to that number? The end of year one looms!
Of course, Scot Blum was gonna stomp all over iTunes, right? And Paul "Windows Fanboy" Thurrott said iTunes "is now officially toast" when BuyMusic.com appeared, so everyone is probably wrong here.
LOL...50 million? Steve Jobs promised 100 million in the first year. Is he even close to that number? The end of year one looms!
Of course, Scot Blum was gonna stomp all over iTunes, right? And Paul "Windows Fanboy" Thurrott said iTunes "is now officially toast" when BuyMusic.com appeared, so everyone is probably wrong here.
...and as Jobs said when asked whether he worried about knock-off white headphones. "So what do you do when the girl asks 'Oh, let me see your iPod!'?"....
Re: Mac was once on top and then dropped, so iTunes might -- No, Mac was NEVER the market leader, just the best
Re: making the 100 million goal -- Pepsi is the key I think.
Re: people knowing about iTunes -- I was at a friends' house and saw one of my Windows friends giving another friend an iTunes gift certificate as a gift. Another asked me if I knew about the Pepsi thing, and plans to revive an old PC purely to get iTunes in the living room connected to their stereo. These are among the last people I'd ever to have expected to be aware of such things. I think people ARE aware of iTunes. But not Napster
Re: making the 100 million goal -- Pepsi is the key I think.
Re: people knowing about iTunes -- I was at a friends' house and saw one of my Windows friends giving another friend an iTunes gift certificate as a gift. Another asked me if I knew about the Pepsi thing, and plans to revive an old PC purely to get iTunes in the living room connected to their stereo. These are among the last people I'd ever to have expected to be aware of such things. I think people ARE aware of iTunes. But not Napster
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Originally posted by wPod
um, last time i checked, on earth (that is where the empire state building is located) theres a cool thing called an atomosphere which, when soemthing is dropped through it, produces drag. this drag induces a thing called 'terminal velocity' (i think they made a movie called that sometime) so at some point the rate is constant. sorry
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montecristo specifically said "all the way down". so, even factoring in terminal velocity, he is still correct. unless of course you are saying it will instantaneously reach terminal velocity.
Thanks for backing me up, corey. And I definitely didn't mean it would instantaneously reach terminal velocity. And with the slick design of the iPod, it's not clear it would reach terminal velocity from that height. Either way...napster flattened.
And regarding the 100 million song target in the 1st year -- we have what about 6 or 7 weeks left? Apple would need 7 or 8 million songs a week! I don't think it will happen.
BTW, does anyone know where Jobs set this target?
yeah yeah yeah, specifics. . . dont make me calculate the terminal velocity of an iPod and how far from the top of the empire state building this speed would be reached.
speaking of pepsi. . .
this sunday will mark one month of, or half way through, the pepsi iTunes give away. . . i wonder if apple will put out any numbers to show how many songs have been sold through the give away. also only one more month until april
more chickenfeed
Apple has to sell more than 100 million songs. On the scale of sellingmusic worldwide 30 million barely registers - online music selling is still chicken feed and has not entered the mainstream yet.
Apple MUST keep the innovation in this market rolling - it must run the agenda. Keep developing marketing strategies and NEW devices to attract and more people and keep the competition off their balance........this actually means FUD in some peoples language but I think Apple can do it in their own way by just making the best music service and music orientated products.
Its all about music right now. I have suggested it in the past (and been laughed at - go ahead please - I like entertaining) it may not be an impossibility to see iTunes (iTMS) and iPod as a separate Apple company - break the Apple brand from the devices and software and place it under iTunes/iPod and you have a new business (just look at the lack of Apple logo in the Pepsi ad and Apple-less HPod)
Apple has to sell more than 100 million songs. On the scale of sellingmusic worldwide 30 million barely registers - online music selling is still chicken feed and has not entered the mainstream yet.
Apple MUST keep the innovation in this market rolling - it must run the agenda. Keep developing marketing strategies and NEW devices to attract and more people and keep the competition off their balance........this actually means FUD in some peoples language but I think Apple can do it in their own way by just making the best music service and music orientated products.
Its all about music right now. I have suggested it in the past (and been laughed at - go ahead please - I like entertaining) it may not be an impossibility to see iTunes (iTMS) and iPod as a separate Apple company - break the Apple brand from the devices and software and place it under iTunes/iPod and you have a new business (just look at the lack of Apple logo in the Pepsi ad and Apple-less HPod)
I can't always find the song I want on iTMS... I wonder how bad it'd be trying to find it on Napster!!! (I like CCM, classical, etc.)
One of my friends (well, not a friend anymore ) said he used Napster because it came with his computer ... To which I, and about three of my true friends said we use iTunes (two of us use Macs, two PeeCees), and it is better.
If you want a REALLY bad experience, use Raphsody.
One of my friends (well, not a friend anymore
) said he used Napster because it came with his computer ... To which I, and about three of my true friends said we use iTunes (two of us use Macs, two PeeCees), and it is better.If you want a REALLY bad experience, use Raphsody.