Become a MacRumors Supporter for $50/year with no ads, ability to filter front page stories, and private forums.
Let's say there is a natural disaster and you need information... what FM channel do you tune to? Do all your local stations switch to emergency programming? I don't even know what FM channels are in my area. (it's honestly been 10 years since I thought about FM radio... thanks podcasts and streaming music)
The more

Natural disasters like hurricanes knock down power lines and towers making cell service unusable. Wouldn't the FM radio antennas face a similar fate? I guess the radio station could have a generator to keep broadcasting... but that doesn't help the listener if they don't have power themselves.
options you have

If FM radio is so important.... wouldn't a small portable radio and lots of batteries be better? Or one of those hand-crank emergency radios? Your iPhone won't last very long without power or service.
the better off

Heck... if I lived in a disaster-prone area... I'd invest in a walkie-talkie-style radio. One that could broadcast on emergency bands to ask for help.
you are in an emergency.
If you're trapped somewhere... listening to someone in a cushy FM radio station won't help you!
Binary thinking really isn't a good way to make an argument. Having FM radio available through a smartphone - here's the kicker - in addition to all the other options is simply another avenue to take in an emergency. The goal is to provide the most options, not the least.
 
The more

options you have

the better off

you are in an emergency.

Binary thinking really isn't a good way to make an argument. Having FM radio available through a smartphone - here's the kicker - in addition to all the other options is simply another avenue to take in an emergency. The goal is to provide the most options, not the least.

Thanks!

You really

opened

my eyes! :p
 
  • Like
Reactions: 69Mustang
Of course the NAB wants Apple to include FM in their iPhones, no one listens to radio anymore! But using a tragedy to try and pass it off as a life saving move instead of a self serving one is low.
Follow the money...
Which would be precisely why Apple does not activate FM.
 
  • Like
Reactions: MacNut
The Samsung Galaxy has had an FM radio since the S II.

Maybe Apple can't afford the $0.10 hardware to connect the Qualcomm LTE modem to an antenna.

Or maybe because Apple operates a Music streaming service.
 
Err... OK... so you quoted Apple's best case figures. And you think that someone with a smart phone is going to turn off everything in an emergency except the FM radio? Classic...
Samsung has an ultra low power mode with a B&W screen where only basic communications functionality is active. I'm not sure if it has FM.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Delgibbons
I've no idea what the radio service is like in the USA but for me in the UK I would pay extra to NOT have that facility on my next iPhone!
Garbage, especially regional stations.
Isn't radio dead like newspapers anyway?

They should give us DAB radio here :)
 
  • Like
Reactions: ijbond
Doesn’t anybody else not recognize that this has nothing to do with the “safety of the American public” but it’s just a desperate ploy from the National Association of Broadcasters to keep their dying business alive?!
 
Last edited:
I evacuated from the Atlas Fire last week. I thought the alerts from Nixie were great. I made sure my phone was not in Do Not Disturb mode and turned up the volume while sleeping. The Solano County Sheriff's Office also had an online map with all the fire borders, evacuation zones, and road closures. It was just better than radio.
Yup, and it is, right up until the cell towers get burned...
 
So the next question is what about ATSC 3.0 support in iOS and tvOS devices?! Also what about FM radio support in the Apple Watch, which would be an ideal device for it and is sort of the de facto iPod nano replacement.

I tell you what I’d really like to see some sort of ad hoc walkie-talkie feature that works like Nextel direct connect without reliance on cell towers or with cell towers for long-range!
 
Last edited:
Obviously, Apple doesn't want to enable it worrying that it might drive some Apple Music subscribers away.

they do not want to do this because they want every last penny from the music subscription they have going. They even made the free radio through itunes to be now a part of the paid music subscription..... They will never enable the fm even if that meant loosing one paid music subscription cancelling and listening to free music.

Apple can shout all day long that they care about the customer, and everything revolves around customer (BS everything revolves around maximizing profit). They are simply in this just like all the rest in the business industry to make as much $$$$$ as possible.

Which would be precisely why Apple does not activate FM.

The Samsung Galaxy has had an FM radio since the S II.

Maybe Apple can't afford the $0.10 hardware to connect the Qualcomm LTE modem to an antenna.

Or maybe because Apple operates a Music streaming service.

Right now I can listen to radio stations using TuneIn and iHeart apps on my iPhone without spending a dime. Who comes up with this nonsense?
 
Could have been an easy new feature of the iPhone 8 to make it more appealing than an iPhone 7, fits in with their future is wireless narrative. I would also love an FM transmitter built in too for music in my older cars from the phone with ease.
 
Most cell phones that had FM radios used the headphone cord as the antenna, hmmm no more headphone jack. Not sure if the lightning jack can support an antenna connection to a headset wire. In any case it would have to be designed into a future product if FCC mandated. I don't think having a backup radio scheme for disasters built into the device I always carry is a bad thing. That said, it's really an AM radio that would be best and that's another antenna problem.
 
  • Like
Reactions: SoundJudgment
Dear Ajit Pai,

The way you get companies to do things for the public good is to REGULATE THEM using YOUR GOVERNMENT-GRANTED POWER to do so. You are the head of the damn FCC, so if you want them to do it, make them! Groveling like a baby does not make companies do things voluntarily.

Signed,
The Taxpayers who want you to do your job and stop being an industry stooge.

Talk about a big government approach... What business does the government have forcing a company to do something like this? Apple has deemed it an unnecessary feature for their devices and the American population agrees. How can you tell they agree? Because they keep buying them! If the public truly wanted an FM radio in their device then they should make it known with their wallet and another company should step up and provide such a device. Let the free market regulate business, not Big Brother.
 
Right now I can listen to TuneIn and iHeart apps on my iPhone without spending a dime. Who comes up with this nonsense?
You may not like that, but prefer radio. Less choice means more people using Apple's services.
 
Fm is old news.

Which is the beauty of it. It's so old news that in an emergency the frequencies don't get logjamed like a cell phone would. Ever been in a stadium or large event before cell relays and Wi-Fi? Your cellphone was 100% worthless. Now imagine that being your entire city in an emergency. Your phone is blocked because either law enforcement has commandeered the frequencies for it's own needs or it's overcrowded because the network is overwhelmed. You want info but how?

Now as others have noted there are other technical issues. It's not as simple as flipping a switch. But it's also not so silly of a request given the vulnerabilities of cellular service. I understand the two-faced aspect here of NAB. But Apple is no less disingenuous given it has a vested interest in a subscription online music service, wireless earbuds, and a certain proprietary connector.
 
FM radio has become beyond useless. All the stations are owned by the same people who do nothing but slap the same 20 song playlists on all the stations. AM is even worse full of racist talk shows. This technology just needs to die and I am glad apple is not prolonging its existence by having an app for it.
 
Register on MacRumors! This sidebar will go away, and you'll see fewer ads.