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DUI impairs your driving from the moment you get behind the wheel. Unless you are on the phone the entire drive it isn't the same.

but when you are talking, its the same. what point are you trying to make? that they are safe? they clearly are not

i dont quite understand the logic that it must be all or nothing in terms of banning distractions for you to be ok with it
 
Would it be alright for me to drink while driving? What if I'm sober when I start the car?
Now that is another issue, if the law is .08 and you have a beer and make it .02 is that illegal?
 
My main issue is that why are we just focusing on cell phones when there are many things that can be distracting.

Because they are thought to cause 2,600 deaths every year. If a disease caused that many deaths every year, we'd called it major pandemic and demand a cure.
 
Because they are thought to cause 2,600 deaths every year. If a disease caused that many deaths every year, we'd called it major pandemic and demand a cure.
But is that because a person was seen on the phone, what if you are distracted by something else. Are those numbers counted by being distracted by the radio.
 
once again, ill ask

why must it be all or nothing when it comes to bans for you to be ok with it?
In my opinion cell phones are an easy target, people would not want to give up their radios or cup holders.
 
Good! It's banned in the UK and it makes me furious when I see people driving whilst on the phone.
 
In my opinion cell phones are an easy target, people would not want to give up their radios or cup holders.

i guess i dont see the problem in banning a known major distraction while driving which will end up saving lives

i really dont see how anyone can argue that its safe and should be allowed

the only reasons ive heard are
1) well my job requires me talking..........well company policy will comply with any law
2) i live in a rural area so its safer............doesnt really matter. akin to saying its ok to drive drunk as theres nobody to hit. dosnt make it safe
3) there are other distractions just as bad.......so lets do nothing to improve the situation? i dont get this argument tbh
 
In my opinion cell phones are an easy target, people would not want to give up their radios or cup holders.

People don't want to give up blabbing on their cell phones while they drive either. You don't want to, no matter how dangerous it might be to you and others. Correct?
 
Why is it a problem that it's an easier law to pass? Because it's an inconvenience for you? It will still save lives...
All I am saying is why are we just ridding one evil when there are others just as bad that Im sure more people do. I bet more people eat in the car then talk on the phone.
 
But those are easier laws to pass, do you think a ban on radios or food in the car would get support?
Does it matter? Don't base the legitimacy of cell phones on the legality of other activities such as eating, drinking, or smoking; just evaluate this issue based on its attributes alone.
All I am saying is why are we just ridding one evil when there are others just as bad that Im sure more people do. I bet more people eat in the car then talk on the phone.
And your solution is to not ban anything?
 
Does it matter? Don't base the legitimacy of cell phones on the legality of other activities such as eating, drinking, or smoking; just evaluate this issue based on its attributes alone.
Going back to the article, they say that they want all cell phones banned because they are a distraction, but they leave out all other distractions that can cause accidents. Why don't they just list everything that is a distraction and try to get it banned.
 
Does it matter? Don't base the legitimacy of cell phones on the legality of other activities such as eating, drinking, or smoking; just evaluate this issue based on its attributes alone.

And your solution is to not ban anything?

In the U.K. you can be done for eating in a car, I think the actual charge is "not being in full control of a motor vehicle" it's a charge that is used.I'm fairly sure there are equivalent laws in the U.S.
 
Going back to the article, they say that they want all cell phones banned because they are a distraction, but they leave out all other distractions that can cause accidents. Why don't they just list everything that is a distraction and try to get it banned.

It's not that easy to change people's patterns all at once. It's better to just do incremental changes. Again, why does it have to be all or nothing?
 
i for one, am gald we have seat belt laws

Many of you are too young, but remember how outraged people were at first about the seatbelt law?

Lets say I am driving watching where I am going and not on the phone, and a pedestrian not looking talking on his phone walks in front of my car.

So you think the law should be expanded to ban cell phone use while walking, driving, etc.? ... :eek:
 
Many of you are too young, but remember how outraged people were at first about the seatbelt law?



So you think the law should be expanded to ban cell phone use while walking, driving, etc.? ... :eek:
Lets look at cell phones, I would like to see them banned from restaurants, public parks, anywhere that they can be a disturbance to others. People have shown that they don't respect the use of a cell phone. If I get a phone call I go somewhere private, one I don't want others to hear and two I don't want to annoy others.
 
Lets look at cell phones, I would like to see them banned from restaurants, public parks, anywhere that they can be a disturbance to others. People have shown that they don't respect the use of a cell phone. If I get a phone call I go somewhere private, one I don't want others to hear and two I don't want to annoy others.

your argument is all over the place

there is a difference to being a disturbance that puts others' lives in jeopardy (as is talkin on phone while driving) and merely being a nuisance to others (as in talking on phone in restaurant)
 
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