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Pretty sure they dont have to do anything and they will still sell a billion units.
My biggest beef with navigation on a mobile phone is the problem of losing service on your phone and thus losing your navigation tool. Any app solutions for this?
microsoft sucks but still seels billions of their os... that's not the point here. I want to use apple because they are so awesome.. not because it's popular for no reason.
Yes, you should know where you're going, generally speaking. That's not at issue. Rural areas have better GPS reception, as there aren't as many buildings and bridges to deal with.
Some apps like Navigon, TomTom and others download and preinstall the maps on your device when you install the app.
So you dont need cellphone service at all, you can even take out your sim and just use it as a standalone GPS device.
Other apps like you mention will need to keep pulling map data from a server as they go and in the meantime use up more battery and eat up your monthly iphone data package allowance if you're on a long trip.
Sorry, I was referring to mountain driving, specifically. Hit up the rockies. It's abysmal.
I think there is a takeaway point here. If you frequent rural areas with no cell reception, logic dictates that you buy an app that needs no data (but still make sure you have a backup_. For 99% of Americans who don;t frequently find themselves in situations like this, apps that use data, such as Google's Navigate, are fantastic and IMO outperform the competition due to their overall integration with the platform.
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Garmin's USA app is amazing and stores all map data on your iPhone so you don't need a data connection while driving. Better yet is free map updates! I use it all the time with zero issues
Garmin's USA app is amazing and stores all map data on your iPhone so you don't need a data connection while driving. Better yet is free map updates! I use it all the time with zero issues
When I had the Evo telenav was working great for me. It's in the market now but we have to pay for it. That sucks!!
If you've used Google Navigation for Android on Verizon, any Navigation option on the iPhone will be a disappointment.
The number of locations in the USA that have a complete lack of Verizon 4G/3G/1X can basically be counted on one hand. I've been using Google Navigation for over two years and not once have my directions been interrupted. (If you're on a different network, well then that's a different story.)
The integration into the platform is a big part of what makes it so good. Google search and Google voice search are integrated so if I do a search for a business or open up voice search and say "Navigate to (insert address/place name)" the Nav app and directions from my current location pop up automatically.
Waze for the iPhone is a good attempt, but it has a lot of problems. Directions are frequently bizarrely inaccurate and the UI looks like it was drawn by a kid. There are of course other options like TomTom, but again if you're coming from Android, you're not going to want to pay $60 for something that you previously got for free, and you're not going to want to take up 1.5GB of your valuable ~13GB hard disk space to store maps.
The iPhone has a lot of work to do to catch up in the Navigation department.
The number of locations in the USA that have a complete lack of Verizon 4G/3G/1X can basically be counted on one hand. I've been using Google Navigation for over two years and not once have my directions been interrupted. (If you're on a different network, well then that's a different story.)
The integration into the platform is a big part of what makes it so good. Google search and Google voice search are integrated so if I do a search for a business or open up voice search and say "Navigate to (insert address/place name)" the Nav app and directions from my current location pop up automatically.
Waze for the iPhone is a good attempt, but it has a lot of problems. Directions are frequently bizarrely inaccurate and the UI looks like it was drawn by a kid. There are of course other options like TomTom, but again if you're coming from Android, you're not going to want to pay $60 for something that you previously got for free, and you're not going to want to take up 1.5GB of your valuable ~13GB hard disk space to store maps.
The iPhone has a lot of work to do to catch up in the Navigation department.
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Is there a way to turn off all of the stupid points and crap in waze and just make it navigation?
I'm hopeful that there will be a major update for Google Maps on ios that will incorporate the Google Navigation that is currently available as a stock feature on Android. That's really about the only thing I can think of that I preferred on my old Android phones.
In the meantime, I've tested Waze out a bit and it seems pretty good for a free app. I know there are several of these paid gps nav apps - but I feel so weird paying through the nose for something that worked flawlessly, and for free, on Android.
Not an Android advert lol - just IMO this is the major 'pro' for android in the iphone vs. android battle.
In the meantime, I've tested Waze out a bit and it seems pretty good for a free app. I know there are several of these paid gps nav apps - but I feel so weird paying through the nose for something that worked flawlessly, and for free, on Android.
Not an Android advert lol - just IMO this is the major 'pro' for android in the iphone vs. android battle.
I don't disagree, man. I am simply saying that for the majority of people, a navigation system that uses data would be completely sufficient. You are obviously not one of those people. Case closed. RIght?
I've actually been to a few places with no Verizon coverage where AT&T does, and a few places with no coverage at all. Verizon has a 1% POPs advantage over AT&T, but neither carrier has great coverage universally.
I'm sure quite a few people travel where there is no cell service.
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I like TomTom for turn by turn, but the Google Maps on Android for just browsing like you can on the iPhone is a bit better implemented, IMHO. I like to use that functionality when in a city and walking around or using public transit.
For just walking around the city and referencing transit and points of interest, quick local map check, etc. the iOS google maps is fine for me. It's the turn by turn gps navigation that is the crucial feature missing from google maps on iOS, but is natively available on android. If this were available on iOS, I guarantee a large majority of users would use it for their gps navigation. From my experience with Android, it worked flawlessly. Maybe that's why they don't offer it, bc the 3rd party gps nav devs would take a huge hit...well that and google wanting to keep it android exclusive.
Oh, and besides the gps nav, android maps has superior multi touch manipulation. Rotating map 360 degrees, etc. Again, imo maps is truly the ONE huge advantage android has over iOS out of the box.
The integration between the two and ease of use is nice, but TomTom is more powerful once you know how to use it.
Can't argue with that as I haven't used it. Also for the most part, when I use gps nav it is in a well covered area, NY or CA. I can see how having an offline capable gps app would be beneficial for rural road trips and what not.
The thing I like about Navigon is you dont have to download all the US, Canada and islands maps at once.
I download just the 3-4 states that I need and use and have those saved only. They're about 80-100mb per state depending on its geographical size.
And you can remove and download other states later when needed thus not having to use a whole 1.3+ GB's of storage on your device.
I know android users dont like to pay for any apps at all but for quality and usefull apps such as this its well worth the one time $30-50 price tag.
I think the point is not that they are unwilling to pay for apps, but that they don't have to pay for it because it's given to them for free. That doesn't make them cheap. IMO it would be stupid to pay for something being given away for free. And we're not talking $1 or $2 apps. Navigon is like $50-60.
Navigon regural price is $50 but there's many times they have sales periodically, I even seen it for as low as $25. But yes like you said if its free why buy it.
Im not saying that android users are cheap but everything is mostly free on android phones. From navigation to most paid games and apps we use on the iphone they get them free but with ads.
But still the Apple appstore has more quality, selection and better looking and functioning apps in general IMO.
You are just adamant about arguing this aren't you? I am simply saying that FOR MOST PEOPLE using cell service is just fine. Plenty of people travel to rural areas. Most don't. Not everyone needs their maps stored on their devices as is clear by hundreds of thousands that use navigation on Android daily. Again, you are obviously not one of those people. Just because TomTom is amazing and wonderful to you doesn't mean it is right, or more importantly worth the money, for everyone else.
For me, I do travel to rural parts of Oregon where I have no signal and Google Navigation is very limited. Third party apps like Navigon are essential.
That said, navigation is one area where Google has quite a distinct advantage over Apple. Apple will need to close this gap, and I'm betting that they're working on just that.
That said, navigation is one area where Google has quite a distinct advantage over Apple. Apple will need to close this gap, and I'm betting that they're working on just that.