question: did you connect your iPhone via usb to your pioneer? if so do the voice commands also go through your stereo and onto your car speakers along with the music?
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question: did you connect your iPhone via usb to your pioneer? if so do the voice commands also go through your stereo and onto your car speakers along with the music?
When you say Route List, do you mean you can see a list of the steps involved in a route? That would be a big minus for me as I like to look at the entire route before I drive it in case there's some screwy routing.
And in terms of the No Zoom in driving mode, am I correct in that you can't zoom out while in driving mode? Another minus for me in terms of how I use my GPS.
Right. There doesn't appear to be a way to see the entire route so you really don't know how you are getting there.
Just as another data point - If you're trying to decide on going with Navigon or waiting for TomTom, it would help to know how the routing engines in each have fared in real world tests. As the linked article says, the routing engine is the brains behind the entire GPS - don't underestimate it.
Keep in mind this was done in Dec. 07, but TomTom placement has remained consistent in recent comparisons: http://gpsmagazine.com/2007/12/navigon_7100_review.php?page=8
Keep in mind this was done in Dec. 07, but TomTom placement has remained consistent in recent comparisons: http://gpsmagazine.com/2007/12/navigon_7100_review.php?page=8
Not true - you can easily see the whole route and zoom to examine any section of the route you want to see in more detail. It is true that there is no listing of the specific directions for each turn.
Agree. I'm so lucky with the B.iCycle app. I can't imagine to switch from B.iCycle to a navigation app like Navigon or TomTom, because surely it won't meet the demands of a biking cyclometer app in the way you describe it (calories burned elevation, max speed, average speed, bike trails and so on....)
HOWEVER!!!
) Jailbreaking the phone allows you to run B.iCycle in the background if you NEED GPS directions for your bike ride. But I would assume Navigon would only track you on main roads.re: B.icycle
Does B.icycle act as a GPS? I know it can track a cycle ride. Does it have a maps function? I do only on-road cycling and I want a GPS to find my routes back home. I've been wondering about g-maps, navigon, etc.
But if b.icycle has road maps then it would be the perfect app for me.
In fact, if it has roads, why wouldn't it be a great app for just finding one's way around town?
Can anyone help me out here?
thanks
Does B.icycle act as a GPS? I know it can track a cycle ride. Does it have a maps function? I do only on-road cycling and I want a GPS to find my routes back home. I've been wondering about g-maps, navigon, etc.
But if b.icycle has road maps then it would be the perfect app for me.
In fact, if it has roads, why wouldn't it be a great app for just finding one's way around town?
Can anyone help me out here?
thanks
B.iCycle has GPS but no guidance to the best of my knowledge. It does have street names and stuff like that but you cant input a destination. It can map your route AFTER you have taken it and then email it to you for viewing in Google Earth.
The website also mentions...
Even more features!
"More functions such as TMC and text-to-speech will follow in late summer."
What is TMC?
I bought mine after work today. It took about 25 minutes to download to my Mac, then sync'd it to my 3Gs. I had about a 30 minute drive to visit some friends tonight, so it was a good first test. It worked very well. I haven't fully explored all the options. I'm hoping there is a choice of voices. My iPhone picked up the GPS signal quickly and it all worked well. I have been using a Garmin Nuvi for the past three years, and it's a bit different, not bad...just different.
I like having my GPS on my phone, and I hope that future updates will continue to improve this GPS software. Just wondering if they are going to charge us for new maps every year. I never paid for new maps on my Garmin as I thought the updates were too expensive, about $80.
I like having my GPS on my phone, and I hope that future updates will continue to improve this GPS software. Just wondering if they are going to charge us for new maps every year. I never paid for new maps on my Garmin as I thought the updates were too expensive, about $80.
B.iCycle has GPS but no guidance to the best of my knowledge. It does have street names and stuff like that but you cant input a destination. It can map your route AFTER you have taken it and then email it to you for viewing in Google Earth.
iMerlin: just a clarification. b.icylce then has a full gps and I wouldn't need to bring paper maps. all it would be missing is the ability to pre plan or pre desginate a route?
That might very well work for me.
However, if you wanted to pre mark a route (I often get routes from the local club and would like to mark them on a map before I leave) what program would you then use for cycling?
thanks
Traffic (stands for Traffic Message Channel) - not sure exactly how they are proposing to incorporate it since TMC is traditionally sent via FM, which of course the iPhone doesn't have. Perhaps it will be some sort of cell network-based TMC (like TomTom's traffic).
Another weird thing, I have contacts with addresses. I was able to pinpoint all these contacts using Google Maps.
Whenever I try to set destination via "contacts" option, Navigon finds totally unrelated addresses. Not even close, only the city name is correct.
The address format in contacts is like that;
333 S State St
Chicago, IL 60604
Whenever I try to set destination via "contacts" option, Navigon finds totally unrelated addresses. Not even close, only the city name is correct.
The address format in contacts is like that;
333 S State St
Chicago, IL 60604
to follow up on my previous question about b.icycle (by the way, I'm still waiting to here an answer about whether you can use b.icycle to plan a route so I don't have to take a paper route map):
what about motionx gps, how does that compare to b.icycle?
what about motionx gps, how does that compare to b.icycle?
United States of America and Canada TMC Providers
MSN Direct is available in 100 of the largest cities across the United states.
Total Traffic Network (Clear Channel) serves more than 125 metropolitan markets in four countries, including the United States, Canada, Mexico and New Zealand. Total Traffic Network delivers real-time traffic data via in-car or portable navigation systems, broadcast media, wireless and Internet-based services.
NAVTEQ Traffic delivers a TMC service using a wide variety of technologies including satellite (to 79 major metropolitan markets), FM-RDS, wireless mobile networks (Traffic Mobile), Internet (Traffic ML delivered in XML format) and hybrid digital (HD) radio.
XM NavTraffic is a satellite-delivered traffic information service with coverage available in 80 total metropolitan areas, 77 in the U.S. and 3 in Canada. NAVTEQ Traffic is the traffic data aggregator for the XM NavTraffic service.
Hey sorry I missed this post. Yes, the Navigon sounds come through the speakers when connected via USB along with music. This is terrific, because it's much louder than my garmin.
I wanted to add to this thread:
Last night I took it on an hour-long drive up to my cousin's house. The drive can be tricky if you aren't familiar with the turn-offs and sudden exits, so I figured it'd be a good test for the app. I also set up my standalone Garmin StreetPilot 330 to see, in real time, how the two devices compared.
Before I even did the test I knew the Garmin would be better, but I decided to humor myself and have them both go at it side by side. I couldn't have been more pleased with the results. The Navigon's lane assist feature on highways is much more than a gimmick (what I originally thought). Whereas the Garmin would tell you to simply exit in 0.5 miles, the Navigon brought up a big picture of the exit signs which always had the same text on them as the actual ones I was seeing, and it helped to navigate through the exits that are like 9A/9B so you knew exactly which one to take when they are close together.
Neither of them dropped the signal during the whole trip. I was also listening to music on my iPhone while navigating and it didn't skip once.
Navigon's voice is much more natural and pleasant than the robotic Garmin voice, and screen updating is much more smooth and fluid than on the Garmin. I also preferred the route that Navigon offered to the one Garmin was showing (both were set to Shortest Time).
Recalculations were a bit faster on the Garmin, but only by a couple of seconds which is inconsequential.
One thing that's great about the Garmin, though, is that it always correctly shows the arrow pointing in whichever direction you are looking (at a stop for example). It seems that Navigon does not take advantage of the compass in the 3GS. Sometimes it won't point in the right direction until after I've moved a few hundred feet.
I'm now convinced that I can eBay my old Garmin. I prefer everything in one device, and there were many times I simply didn't use the Garmin because I didn't want to set it up on the dash. My iPhone has its own mount next to my head unit and is plugged in via USB in the car, so this isn't an issue.
Last night I took it on an hour-long drive up to my cousin's house. The drive can be tricky if you aren't familiar with the turn-offs and sudden exits, so I figured it'd be a good test for the app. I also set up my standalone Garmin StreetPilot 330 to see, in real time, how the two devices compared.
Before I even did the test I knew the Garmin would be better, but I decided to humor myself and have them both go at it side by side. I couldn't have been more pleased with the results. The Navigon's lane assist feature on highways is much more than a gimmick (what I originally thought). Whereas the Garmin would tell you to simply exit in 0.5 miles, the Navigon brought up a big picture of the exit signs which always had the same text on them as the actual ones I was seeing, and it helped to navigate through the exits that are like 9A/9B so you knew exactly which one to take when they are close together.
Neither of them dropped the signal during the whole trip. I was also listening to music on my iPhone while navigating and it didn't skip once.
Navigon's voice is much more natural and pleasant than the robotic Garmin voice, and screen updating is much more smooth and fluid than on the Garmin. I also preferred the route that Navigon offered to the one Garmin was showing (both were set to Shortest Time).
Recalculations were a bit faster on the Garmin, but only by a couple of seconds which is inconsequential.
One thing that's great about the Garmin, though, is that it always correctly shows the arrow pointing in whichever direction you are looking (at a stop for example). It seems that Navigon does not take advantage of the compass in the 3GS. Sometimes it won't point in the right direction until after I've moved a few hundred feet.
I'm now convinced that I can eBay my old Garmin. I prefer everything in one device, and there were many times I simply didn't use the Garmin because I didn't want to set it up on the dash. My iPhone has its own mount next to my head unit and is plugged in via USB in the car, so this isn't an issue.
That's not lane assist. That's reality view.
Lane Assist
Reality View
https://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?p=8160845#post8160845
It's basically a detour feature. It avoids the route ahead at the length that you specify.
I noticed that this Navigon app has different map shading to indicate different cities. The shading is kind of an olive green and trying to read the street names in that color is nearly impossible. The next city over will be the lighter color again and then the street names are easy to read again.
I found that turning night mode on permanently gets rid of that problem and I can always read the street names then.
I was holding the iPhone 3G in my hand the entire time and several times it would lose the GPS signal for a few seconds. That will probably stop once I get a dashboad mount.
I never got the battery drain that others have mentioned. I have a Griffin Power Jolt that I used for my 3G and the battery always stayed at 100%.
I did notice some lag on my 3G. This wasn't the map lagging but the phone being sluggish probably due to low memory. I would hit the options button accidentally and it would take several seconds to go into the opptions screen. Since I hit it accidentally, I would hit the done button and it would take several seconds to respond. It got into this cycle of going back to options, map screen, options, map screen over and over again without me doing anything.
I haven't tried this on my 3GS yet even though it's installed on it. I'm using the 3G as a GPS and the 3GS as a phone.
I found that turning night mode on permanently gets rid of that problem and I can always read the street names then.
I was holding the iPhone 3G in my hand the entire time and several times it would lose the GPS signal for a few seconds. That will probably stop once I get a dashboad mount.
I never got the battery drain that others have mentioned. I have a Griffin Power Jolt that I used for my 3G and the battery always stayed at 100%.
I did notice some lag on my 3G. This wasn't the map lagging but the phone being sluggish probably due to low memory. I would hit the options button accidentally and it would take several seconds to go into the opptions screen. Since I hit it accidentally, I would hit the done button and it would take several seconds to respond. It got into this cycle of going back to options, map screen, options, map screen over and over again without me doing anything.
I haven't tried this on my 3GS yet even though it's installed on it. I'm using the 3G as a GPS and the 3GS as a phone.