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$20/$25 one-time is a fantastic price. I expected them to charge $50+ a year. I think the live services of their PNAs (including parking services) are more than $100 a year (including data).

So we just have to wait another four weeks :)
 
Navigon continues to add new features while TomTom sits there with their mouth shut. Come on TomTom, let us know what you are working on...
 
I can't believe it's only $19.99 with no yearly fee!

Granted, it may not be the best, but hey.. for a one-time fee of $19.99 it's definitely worth it, no matter how they implement it into the app.

Any word on how they will do this? I don't have much experience with GPS systems and how they implement traffic into their systems, especially Navigon, as I have only ever owned one Garmin unit and never subscribed to the traffic service.
 
They aggregate TMC Pro (traffic loops etc.), the data of Navigon LIVE users and floating car data.
 
this is welcome news, i got stuck in traffic the other day, woulda been great to have known ahead of time.

i like this app for the most part, but I had a really rough time wit it this weekend in driving into nyc from albany, ny

it kept dropping its signal and one time it did it right b4 i was supposed to get off an exit, and so it annoucned that i should get off the exit after I had passed it, then when it recalculated the route it did so a split second too late that i missed the next exit and it kept doing that until i just got off on my own and sat still while it took all day to get my route fixed.

anyone else having this connection dropping problem?

Yes, it sometimes happen to me (I have an Iphone 3G). It seems that, when you loose GPS signal, the software has lots of problems to recalculate your position when you are driving at high speeds (seems that 70 kph is a kind of limit...). If your speed is below 70 kph, or better if you just stop your car:D, Navigon has no problem recalculating the position.

I think the processor of the Iphone 3G is sometimes not powerful enough to handle all the calculations required by Navigon (or maybe it's a problem of slow memory allocation). Probably this problem is less frequent for 3GS users.
 
The price point makes sense. How do you increase the reliability of your data in this model? Get more people to use it! That's exactly what this will do.

I am assuming you'll have to accept some sort of 'Terms of Service' to use the Travel Live Service, and that likely includes the app collecting and reporting data on your routes, speed, etc. Interesting to know if it's anonymous or not but some would claim there are privacy issues (of course you don't have to use it).
 
Yet another great update from Navigon on the way. Awesome.

So glad I got in on the original sale. Everyone that did will have a great TBT TTS GPS app on their iPhone and can then add live traffic data for the price it costs now (and both still cheaper than Tom Tom - or should it be Late Late :D).

KO for Navigon against Tom Tom, IMO.
 
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Can I "return" my TomTom App for a refund???!!!

I made a mistake, should have gone with Navagon.

TomTom takes yet another blow!

Yes, you can. I did it just over a week ago and am very, very happy with the decision.
 
Beautiful! I will not have to quit Navigon and lunch Google maps to check on traffic anymore. I waited until TomTom released their app and waited even longer for a few hundred reviews to kick in. I am glad I made the right choice, skipped TomTom, purchase Navigon at a discount and now with live traffic!!!
 
copilot did have an update yesterday...qwerty keyboard being the main thing. i've actually been quite pleased with copilot...and at $35, it's still a great deal. would love TTS more than real-time traffic, though. hope that's in the next update.

navigon's a bit too pricey for me, especially since i have an in-dash nav in one car and a portable garmin for the other...but, it does look like the leader among the iphone nav apps. they seem to be doing a good job.

Thanks for the "heads up". I'm downloading it now. Hopefully the maps have been updated.

Cheers.
 
The funniest part of all of this is that TomTom has been offering an internet based traffic information service for years on all of their units. You simply connected the unit via bluetooth to a cell phone with a data plan and you had all the traffic info right there.

Ironically, they write software for a smartphone where everyone had unlimited data and they leave out that feature!! MORONS.
 
TomTom also charges a subscription price for the traffic and gas prices.

Garmin does not.. also... the price between the non-lifetime traffic units and lifetime traffic units are around 25-30 dollars. I'm not sure why everyone is complaining, it's a great deal.
 
TomTom also charges a subscription price for the traffic and gas prices.

Garmin does not.. also... the price between the non-lifetime traffic units and lifetime traffic units are around 25-30 dollars. I'm not sure why everyone is complaining, it's a great deal.

The people who are complaining are those who believe they are entitled to everything in life for free. I have no problem paying $25 for a service that I find is valuable.
 
Yes, it sometimes happen to me (I have an Iphone 3G). It seems that, when you loose GPS signal, the software has lots of problems to recalculate your position when you are driving at high speeds (seems that 70 kph is a kind of limit...). If your speed is below 70 kph, or better if you just stop your car:D, Navigon has no problem recalculating the position.

I think the processor of the Iphone 3G is sometimes not powerful enough to handle all the calculations required by Navigon (or maybe it's a problem of slow memory allocation). Probably this problem is less frequent for 3GS users.

Thanks for pointing that out. I was frustrated this morning when tooling down the highway at high speed and my GPS wouldn't re-acquire. This would explain it.
 
Really glad I went with Navigon over Tom Tom. Seems like Navigon is staying on top of development with their iPhone product much better than Tom Tom. Well, at least they aren't being all secretive.
 
can't wait for the live traffic updates...

It would be a treat to get live traffic updates. The price of the additional in-app purchase is easily justifiable granted that other GPS receivers charge for that service on a monthly or subscription basis. I just hope this does not turn into historical data retrieval which would be completely useless in my case and in my opinion. I already know the 405 in the LA area is a crawl... but it would be nice to know LIVE if it opens up for a bit so I could hop on the freeway instead of dealing with completely unsynchronized traffic light system... :cool:
 
Good app and good features

I am glad that I choose Navigon rather than TomTom. I will purchase the add on when it come out next month.

I am, however, worry about the battery drain issue. I took a 25 miles trip last week using the app without a car charger. This short trip used ~ 30% of the battery power.
 
I am glad that I choose Navigon rather than TomTom. I will purchase the add on when it come out next month.

I am, however, worry about the battery drain issue. I took a 25 miles trip last week using the app without a car charger. This short trip used ~ 30% of the battery power.


i think the lesson here is buy a charger. the iphone is already not known for it's battery life, and using a heavy app such as navigon is only going to contribute to that...

save yourself the frustration and buy a charger.
 
I'm assuming that if you subscribe to this that navigon ewill use the traffic information to provide you the best route. Is it a given that it willdo this or am i just gonna get traffic information for my $25.
 
With every bit of news, I'm and more and more glad I got Navigon. It's gotten better each and every time.

Me too. I'm so happy that I bought Navigon over Tom Tom when I was deciding a few weeks ago. I have loved using it but hope that Navigon improves the readability of street names in the next update.

I might have to get Tom Tom for Europe but would rather stay with Navigon at this point.
 
I'm assuming that if you subscribe to this that navigon ewill use the traffic information to provide you the best route. Is it a given that it willdo this or am i just gonna get traffic information for my $25.
From the press release:

The device continually takes traffic reports into account for navigation, both when planning a route and during the journey. "In this way, not only does the driver receive an up-to-the-minute route recommendation, but, because traffic reports are updated at intervals of just a few minutes, the driver can also respond to queues en route much faster than with conventional, radio-transmitted traffic information and select a different route in good time."

[snip]
NAVIGON Traffic Live users are informed immediately in such cases and are able to navigate according to the traffic situation. In the event of a traffic jam the MobileNavigator software displays a warning; in addition, Traffic Live supplies detailed information about the nature of the congestion and indicates whether or not the traffic has come to a standstill. On the basis of this information the driver can calculate a congestion-free route or else, if the obstacle is temporary or the queue is short, opt to stay on the selected route. If required, all this will also function fully automatically. "Traffic Live provides a clear overview in real time, but lets the driver decide. If the driver chooses an alternative route, the device displays the updated time of arrival and distance," says Gerhard Mayr.


Sounds like it's going to work just the way I was hoping. :D


And, according to the press release, NAVIGON Traffic Live is "faster and more exact than TMC (Traffic Message Channel)," which is the system they use in their stand-alone units. So I'm even more firm in my statement that $25 is a bargain.
 
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