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not inline w/ their design philosophy? oh, you mean like how they built exactly this on the ipod touch? sounds inline to me.

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nope. #3 is certainly an option. to ignore it is to wear blinders. no designer wants to wear blinders, everything must be evaluated.

i want the best case *and* the best camera, so #3 sounds like the right answer.

and of course the camera in a phone isnt the same as a camera in a DSLR -- but its certainly as good as a point and shoot, which is why i no longer own any point and shoots, and why that sector has started petering out.[COLOR

If it sticks out it's not an option. I don't care about Ives mushroom induced fantasies if that is the case I,m not buying. In my opinion it's bad design, that and those ugly bands.
 
New iPhone Air 6S! We managed to squeeze the camera into our incredibly slim chassis! We somehow found a way to fit an extra 1GB RAM inside! New improved one-tone back! A9 chip! Most precise thing we've ever made! Order now!

BTW a protruding camera on an iPod touch isn't as big a deal. It's a lower market device that launched at half the price of an iPhone and is currently available for almost a quarter the price. For £549 I kind of expect that they manage to keep key components inside the chassis despite their desperate urge to make the thinnest smartphone on the planet...*sigh*
 
Yeah, except when you want to lay your phone flat and a majority of the pressure is put on the delicate lens.


Brilliant design Jonny I've. Oh, I'm also loving the huge bezel, very retro!


:rolleyes:

The top and bottom bezels look smaller to my eyes.
 
They shrink the phone because they want 6 model to be thinner than 5, as iphone 5 was thinner than iPhone 4 and so on.
Thinner means lighter, so is "better".

Spin it all you want. I don't consider "thinner is better". I think 5s or even 4 was plenty thin enough. Per that logic, iPhone 14 or so should disappear because it becomes so thin you can't see it anymore. No one griped about 5s being "too thick".

Apple may be satisfied with current battery life but lots of customers are not. If there was an objective "which do you want more?" poll of thinner vs. more battery life, I suspect the results would be pretty dramatic.

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ah yes -- because until now, nobody has ever found a reason to gripe about anything related to an apple product. no siree, no gripes on a daily basis about every single thing theyve done over the past 10 years.

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Can't find anyone griping about the 5s being "too thick". I can find lots of people griping about battery life.

And

Can't find anyone griping about a flush camera in the 5s. Can find plenty faulting the protruding one in the rumor.

So let's "solve" both by choosing "thinner" over filling the space with a bigger battery and then we can just deal with the protruding camera.

I'll grant you that people can gripe about a lot of things. But sometimes those gripes have merit. Nobody- Apple included- can do everything exactly right. While some- like you- can fault consumers for expressing their unfulfilled wants, others might see such gripes as opportunities to get a next generation device more right.

If there were as many people griping about iPhone 5s being "too thick" as those griping about "wanting more battery life", I'd say "thinner" is as good a choice as building in a bigger battery. But we don't see that- nobody gripes about the thickness of the iPhone 5s. Apple is just going to thin it in the 6 anyway.

And then people like you will fault the BUYERS of Apple products for not being entirely content with however Apple wants to build something, even if Apple would choose to address nobody's problem ("5s is too thick") instead of many people's problem ("need more battery life").
 
This thread does not exist - it is a figment of your imaginations...

However, the iPhone 6, 5.5" model, DOES exist, even though noone has ever seen it.

Schroedinger's cat will be along shortly, to explain...
 
Somehow I'll bet Apple was smarter than those here who claim thin doesn't sell, did their market research and the phone will be a huge hit. Thankfully most people aren't neurotic dweebs who get their panties twisted over a ring around the lens, bands on the back etc.
 
Not sure what people have against the protruding lens. It's quite minor, just go into an Apple Store and pick up the iPod Touch. It's a shame if Apple truly abandons the 4" size, the iPod Touch would be my ideal iPhone, so thin and compact.

It looks like a I was wrong about Apple not releasing a 5.5" iPhone. I still think it's over size, but I think I see where Apple is going with it. The new paradime of iOS 08 is that apps will not have a fixed size and they'll dynamically morph to what ever size of device you have (or if you're multitasking on iPad). With a bigger screen area the 5.5" will feel like using a really big iPhone but then other times it will be more like an iPad. It's kind of Apple's answer to the phablet. EDIT: And when I say more like iPad I mean there's literally more content on screen than a typical iPhone would. EDIT: e.i. Mail on the 5.5" will work exactly like the iPad version and on 4.7" like the iPhone version.

Size is now ambiguous.
 
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Am I being too nit-picky to think the protruding lens is almost a deal breaker for me? Or, at least not inline with Apple's design aesthetic philosophy?

...you are being too nit-picky;) The protruding lens won't matter a bit since a case will be mandatory on this phone. It is so thin and with the rounded edges, it will be nearly impossible to pick up without a nice grippy case on it. I've used thin clear Luvvitt TPU cases on my last two iPhones. They are durable and don't completely hide the beauty of the phone. Cheap too. I plan to get the same case for the iPhone 6 if I end up with one. Normally my work gets everyone a new phone every year and hopefully that will continue this year.
 
I still think the 5S will become the 5C-Touch ID etc, but in a plastic case.

Apple have (AFAICR) always used the outgoing top end handset as the new entry level phone, so I don't think they'll change that now.

The 5C was a massive seller for them, so I'll think they just carry that on.

I hope you are right. But if I am not mistaken there have been zero rumors on Macrumors about a possible 6C. Or did I miss those?
 
I remember looking at an iPhone 5S and thinking how much attention to detail Apple put into it by making the camera nice and flush compared to the ugly S3. And now.... :-\

I'm sure I'll learn to live with it.

You mean the same phone that has a "protruding" front panel? Why does no one mention this? I mean, we are all noticing every millimeter aren't we?
 
Camera nub: totally for external lens attachments, probably magnetic.

I wish I could win a prize for being right about this, because I'm pretty sure I'm going to be right.
 
I'm curious about why the screen has curved edges like that - it looks nice but seems like the screen would be more prone to break if it falls on the side. :confused:

Otherwise looks pretty good, the bands are growing on me slowly. Still hoping for a slate option.
 
I still do not like the antenna bands but I have to say that the final complete & polished product looks so much better on this video! I just hope there is something new in the software that will blow us away..
 
who cares what it looks like when it will annoy the **** out of any user trying to use it when lying (non-)flat on a table. Striking it with one finger (to scroll or do anything) will make it rock back and forth. This would be pathetic! :mad:
One won't be able to comfortable read some article when not holding it.
Imagine they did this to the iPad... right... unusable. There is no difference with the phone, especially a larger one, same design flaw (if actually happening).

They can't be serious with this protruding ring. If they actually release it with this anti-feature, they'll have lost all my faith in their (functional)design superiority and aesthetics.


I refuse to believe they've turned this stupid!

FWIW, I have a Nexus 5 with a protruding camera and just tried what you suggested.....the phone doesn't rock.

I've been skeptical of the protruding camera - and will still be a little peeved if there aren't some pretty major improvements (larger sensor, OIS etc). But design-wise, it really doesn't look bad at all.

And I'd much rather have a thinner overall device (because moving up in size is going to be a big change) than add a bunch of bulk just to sit flush with the camera.

Kinda changed my mind on this. Using a Nexus 5 has helped and I really didn't ever notice it with my GS4 either.

I think this device looks absolutely stunning and can't wait for the announcement and release. The black looks great here....I was all set to go back to white, but this is making me have second thoughts!

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Oh - and in what universe is this an iPod touch design? No chamfered edge, the sides are rounded both at the front and back of the device......

People expecting an iPhone that doesn't look like an iPhone need to wake up.
 
The M8 has sharp edges. The iphone 6 seems to use the bands around the edge, because of the edge curve radius, this makes them thicker, so the band across the phone has to be made the same thickness, otherwise it will look stupid.

From what I have seen of the case: The top band is purely cosmetic and present only because the bottom band is there. Both bands have increased thickness to match the thickness of the transition of the edge curve.

So for the people who say that design was thrown at the window - the exact opposite seems to be case. The bands have been picked that way mostly for cosmetic reasons.

There is one small part of the band that seems to be there purely for cosmetically reason in the middle of the bottom straight line, but the rest seems to have a purpose.

Here's a CAD render of top the antenna structure part which dates back to May 2014 but matches perfectly with the case leaks that happened after it.

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Can you recognize the antenna band shape?

There's a gap there, and it's where the band actually goes over and outside the back casing, which is all in one piece. The very top and bottom parts where the ports go are completely insulated from the back casing because of the curved part of the band and presumably used as twin cell antennas like the iPhone 4S/5/5S.

Again you can see this in the early CAD rendering leak of the back casing part without the top and bottom antennas and plastic bands. Even though the bottom straight line doesn't insulate the aluminum parts inside the bands from the back casing itself, at least parts of it on the sides seems to serve as an RF window for some antenna structure.

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