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That depth could be well compensated by a bigger battery and slightly thicker case
Implying higher weight. No. Thanks. Please not. Yes, more battery life would be great, but if I have to choose between 20 grams less weight or 20% more battery life, then I will choose the lighter phone, because it doesn't happen so often that I am away from a power source for three days, but I do carry my phone with me all day.

The 4.7 inch iPhone 6 will already be heavier than the 5S. I would really prefer not to add even more weight to it just to keep the camera from protruding a little bit, for no particularly meaningful reason whatsoever.

Apple went the way of Android manufacturers who cheat the size specs not taking into account camera protrusion.
I think that is "cheating" only to people who hold their phone by the camera while they hold it in their hand. Most people don't seem to touch the camera while holding it, so to them, the phone will be thinner, and the same goes for the many people who put a case on their phone.
 
No idea if this has been said but couldn't the protruding lens mean we now finally have a great optical zoom ?
 
Sorry, the full-on fanboys are excusing the camera protrusion because "everyone put's a case on it" (not me, never have, never broken my iPhone and owned since 3G) - so the rounded edges and "thinness" are irrelevant when you're going to whack a big plastic case on the thing.

You can't say the design is sleek then excuse a protruding camera by saying it'll have a plastic case on it anyway...

Sorry, but that "I've never dropped it so I never will" line is pure rubbish.

I've never been hit by a bus, doesn't mean it won't happen.

The camera is nothing, it's a tiny tiny protrusion that won't make any difference to anyone's use of the iPhone 6.
 
Sorry, but that "I've never dropped it so I never will" line is pure rubbish.

I've never been hit by a bus, doesn't mean it won't happen.

The camera is nothing, it's a tiny tiny protrusion that won't make any difference to anyone's use of the iPhone 6.

Where did I say I'll never drop it? I've also dropped my older iPhones, just never broken one. I don't like using a case as I always have the phone in my pocket and prefer not to walk around looking like I'm always pleased to meet people.

If "everyone" uses them then I'd rather Apple make the phones out of plastic so they're both cheaper and smaller since a case won't be required. Why does no-one push for this? Surely it's better for everyone because based on figures plucked from the air here at least 95% put a case on...

The protruding camera is still poor design whatever way you look at it, it's a compromise from a company that prides itself on the physical design of its products.
 
I'm not telling you otherwise, in fact you agree with me: the "iPhone mini" is not a premium flagship smartphone, or at least it will not be anymore as soon as the larger iPhone hits the market.

The A7 still has the best single core perf around 1 year later (you know, the one that actually matters to most use, the second core being the next most usefull) and it will probably be 50% more now. So, how is crushing the other phone's single core performance number not premium?

No other phone has this kind of build quality, that's a fact... Yet, not premium?

So, what is premium in your book, the M8? The G3 with a resolution that kills the battery without being really much better than the G2? The S5 with its embarassing sales?
 
I'm going to get some hate for this but...

the iPhone 6 they have there looks very much like something Samsung would sell.
 
But do you put a case on your iPod? Most here seem to argue that the thick antenna breaks and protruding camera don't matter because "everyone" puts a case on it - at which point all that premium material feel and "thinness" is instantly lost.

I have used it with and without a case, mostly without. protruding camera doesn't matter to me even with no case, and thinness isn't lost when using a case either, since a case on a fat phone is even fatter.

I would be curious how many people who complain about the protruding camera have used the current ipod to come to that conclusion, or they are just guessing that it will be a problem. I don't think you can come to an accurate conclusion without trying it. I am sure that there are some that have the ipod and hate the camera, but I think most are just making assumptions based on zero hands on experience. .
 
Is this just a guess? If so, I don't think it's fair to assume that a bigger phone must weigh more.

Unless they really change the type of material they are using, it's it a pretty fair assumption, seeing how (according to the leaked dimensions from Foxconn) the volume of the phone will increase by 14%. So far, in all the reports where they had iPhone 6 shells available, nobody has stated that they were made from plastic (in fact aluminium was mentioned at least once) or that they were extraordinarily thin. So I don't see any magic here just yet that would allow Apple to keep the weight the same for a 14% bigger phone.

But let's make a deal: if the iPhone 6 weighs less than 112g, then I will fly to Cupertino to complain that they did not make it thicker to accomodate a higher battery capacity.
 
Your post implied it, the way it read.



Because no one wants it?



Why don't you design something better then?

Why doesn't anyone want a plastic phone when they only put it in a plastic case anyway? The 5C is fine - or rather would be if they specced it the same as the 5S and made it in black... But we all know they (Apple) don't do that because it would be a little too popular at take sales from the 5S.


I'd gladly design something better, I design product for a living, sadly I don't work for Apple, don't work for a mobile phone producer and don't have billions of dollars to spend on it like they do.

I think the iPhone 4 was a fantastic design, the neat touches like the camera radius lining up with the corner radius, the materials and look were all premium. It was perfect for the time.

The 6 is a nice shape but is a bit of a dog when you break down the "neat" design elements of the past and realise they're throwing them away - the camera seems thrown in wherever, the plastic antenna breaks are triple the thickness of the previous generation, the home button sits awkwardly low because Apple are adamant on keeping it while trying to keep their larger phone compact and it's at odds with that. Due to the desire for symmetry we also have the very large top section to balance the bottom. They're trying to move forward while trying to hold onto the past. They should tear up their old designs and start with a clean slate for the newer size and form factor. Jony Ive is getting stale and tired in my opinion, the innovation and great design of the mid/late 2000's has slowed tremendously in recent years.
 
Why doesn't anyone want a plastic phone when they only put it in a plastic case anyway?

Because that's their prerogative.

People put nice products in protective items all the time, what's important is that they know what's inside the case.

For example, I love the design of the iPhone (they've all be fantastic in my opinion), but I use a case.

However, the main reason I use an iPhone is it's simplicity, it's reliability, it's App Store/apps and the fact there are retail stores I can go into in the event of an issue.

So the phone's appearance, whilst important, is not paramount for the people that use cases.

The 5C is fine - or rather would be if they specced it the same as the 5S and made it in black... But we all know they (Apple) don't do that because it would be a little too popular at take sales from the 5S.

Right, so that's their business model and you have the choice not to buy it.

I'd gladly design something better, I design product for a living, sadly I don't work for Apple, don't work for a mobile phone producer and don't have billions of dollars to spend on it like they do.

Design it, post it here and then submit the idea to Apple.

I think the iPhone 4 was a fantastic design, the neat touches like the camera radius lining up with the corner radius, the materials and look were all premium. It was perfect for the time.

Agreed, a real gamechanger.

The 6 is a nice shape but is a bit of a dog when you break down the "neat" design elements of the past and realise they're throwing them away - the camera seems thrown in wherever, the plastic antenna breaks are triple the thickness of the previous generation, the home button sits awkwardly low because Apple are adamant on keeping it while trying to keep their larger phone compact and it's at odds with that. Due to the desire for symmetry we also have the very large top section to balance the bottom. They're trying to move forward while trying to hold onto the past. They should tear up their old designs and start with a clean slate for the newer size and form factor. Jony Ive is getting stale and tired in my opinion, the innovation and great design of the mid/late 2000's has slowed tremendously in recent years.

I think you should wait and pass judgement until you've held and used one, instead of making statements that are really assumptions, based on pictures and videos of an unreleased product.

Apple didn't get where they are by selling **** products, so why not just wait and see?
 
Hate the bands......Hate the protruding camera......Hate the larger size......Fanboy will buy anyway.
 
camera protrusion - another reason for it...

I think it might be a magnetic ring, this would allow extra lens to be attracted and not slide off the lip...
 
If they're there on the 9th, is it going to be a deal breaker? I say NO.

Then for you who hate the bands, do not buy this new, awesome phone! Easy peasy. :rolleyes:

Go Apple :apple:

No it won't be a deal breaker, I just don't like these two design choices. Ya know it's okay to be critical of Apple products, there isn't a law against it.
 
Antenna bands arent too bad considering they clash far less than the current models glass panels, but they could have done better like the HTC One M8. Makes you wonder how HTC outdid Apple in that design aspect, and also take into account that the M8 has been on the market for some time now...

The M8 has sharp edges. The iphone 6 seems to use the bands around the edge, because of the edge curve radius, this makes them thicker, so the band across the phone has to be made the same thickness, otherwise it will look stupid.

From what I have seen of the case: The top band is purely cosmetic and present only because the bottom band is there. Both bands have increased thickness to match the thickness of the transition of the edge curve.

So for the people who say that design was thrown at the window - the exact opposite seems to be case. The bands have been picked that way mostly for cosmetic reasons.

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I think it might be a magnetic ring, this would allow extra lens to be attracted and not slide off the lip...

That would be interesting. The ring would have to protrude deep into the device to provide any useful magnetism. Would apple go this far just for adding 'attachments' that most people will never use? If this was the case, you would think it would have been mentioned by the leakers, as magnetism would be obvious against a non magnetic aluminimum body.

I think the simplest explanation still wins out: That it protrudes because the phone has gotten so thin its no longer possible to have a cutting-edge camera in that thickness. Apple better some some dramatic camera improvement for iphone 6 however - because the protrusion will draw so much focus to the camera.

I am hoping that the camera is finally of good enough quality to seriously not need an actual stand-alone camera for taking pictures.
 
Unfortunately the glass is giving me daft reflections, so yes I prefer anti-glare anti-fingerprints anti-bacterial anti-everything... screen protectors. It's my daft choice, which won't be possible to make with the new iPhone 6. The sad thing is, that design will now stick for years. It is very likely that upcoming iPads will also get these terrible curved screen edges. OMG!!! :mad:

I had a Blackberry Z30 forced on me by the company. They had to take my iPhone 5 from my cold, dead hand (well, not quite).

The Z30 has a glossy screen with gently curved edges. I too applied an anti-reflective screen protector and it sits on the flat surface only, so the curved portion is exposed by about 3mm on the three curved sides. It works well and doesn't peel off, but obviously the edges could be prone to scratches.

Sidebar: Wrong forum, but for those that are interested, the Z30 isn't bad once you learn the quirks of the touch interface. BB10 OS has a nice integrated feel and the experience is probably better than Android. If they had this phone 3-4 years ago they probably wouldn't be in the state they are.
 
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the more i see it the less i like it, how can apple go from the 5 to this i mean the design is horrible, which might make me consider buying a note 4 if it looks good and the specs are nice, i wanna go back to the iphone but the camera is ugly and those bands don't help either, if it ends up being this, hopefully not, i wont buy it, i hope those bands indicate where the glass will go or something like in the 4 or idk
 
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