Ph, i'm well aware many businesses still have XP. I deal with them.
Believe it or not, Microsoft will sell large enterprises security patches for XP. But it's not a consumer / public facing offering. and I don't agree with your recommendation for XP offline. I don't recommend XP. at all. Anymore. Any of my clients who I see still using it, I strongly recommend they update ASAP, or potentially lose certain portions of their SLA
and yes. Any company willingly putting themselves at risk by running unpatched system in exposed manner, really only has themselves to blame. Not Microsoft.
Any hardware that is incompatible with Windows 10 is going to be 10+ years old and is going to be out of warranty and support from their own vendor. So they are no different than above. In this day of age, a company chosing to not be current with their software, especially while online, should be responsible for their own failings.
Cannot blame Microsoft for any of this. And WannaCry only affected Windows 10 machines that were purposely unpatched. Since Microsoft forces updates on anyone on S, Home or Pro, this could only apply to Enterprise users. So again. the blame for infection falls on those who refuse to update.
It would be similar to someone running Mac OSx 10.1 Lion today on a Mac made in 2008, and then getting a malware infection (which does happen), and then blaming Apple for not back porting to a retired operating system
in reality, if we really want to blame the right people we should be blaming the *******s who wrote these virus and payloads who are attempting to disrupt major business and governments. Cyber warfare is starting to really heat up in the last few months. it's no longer just groups of hackers / crackers writing malicious code for a few bucks or notoriety. There are now international consulting organizations who will create and distributed targeted attacks like this.
the new Cold war won't be with missiles. it'll be who can hire the strongest hackers to try and disrupt systems. now more than ever do we need to keep our systems patched and as up to date as possible, regardless of what OS is running the platform
fair enough i agree, i personally have new expensive hardware but there are some cheap people out there
the only thing i don't agree is the part that you said that you don't recommend WXP at all
what harm can be done if the os is being use offline
let's just say that the person has an old computer
that is good to create documents and stuff like that
probably play some old games or emulator
at least the person can use that computer for entertainment
or that person has to spent money and buy a new pc or try to upgrade the hardware to try to run a newer version of windows
that most likely will run slow as hell
so using xp offline is no harm
everything else i agree except for that
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I'm not missing any points here, but you are. You said "just by not having a security patch install you are vulnerable to attack". Well of course you would be vulnerable... on any OS you would be including MacOS.
Microsoft released a patch for WannaCry 2 months before the attack, so the only people that were attacked were people that went out of their way to prevent the automatic updates from happening. That is not Microsoft's fault any more than it is their fault if someone clicks on a link for a phishing scheme and has their bank account hacked. Anyone that did that, deserves to get hacked as far as I'm concerned.
Windows 10 and MacOS are both safe to use by an average user if they are not idiots and leave them configured as they come out of the box... to be safe.
don't take it personal i meant no disrespect , we can respectfully disagree, no problem with that
yes i know that all oses has vulnerabilities i never said that mac os doesn't have any vulnerability
a while ago there it was a mac vulnerability that attack the firmware and survived full formats clean installs etc
so you see i'm fair
but i only use the WCRA as an example because many people believe that windows 10 is not vulnerable to that kind of attack anymore and they blame everything on old version of windows like XP
and they swear that windows 10 is "invincible"
i see you are well aware of the situation but you know that another variant came out
right after the first one that require another new patch
one thing is having viruses , erasing the HD and reinstall the system
but you couldn't do that with that specific worm or virus
because it encrypted your HD then you will loose all you important data
if you erase the drive
yes i understand you point but even if the person didn't turn off automatic updates
is like playing Russian roulette
whatever the person get first the empty hole or the bullet
because if you get the patch before the attack then you are protected
you don't how many security updates windows releases on the daily basis
you can have your computer fully patched, don't use you computer for a week and when you turn it on
you have a whole new gig of security updates ready to be download and install
and you know how the story goes
downloading updates
installing updates
windows reboot your pc like 20 times during that process
well actually like 2 or 3 but it sure feels like more
then if the person is lucky at the end they successfully updated and patched their pc
unless they get
windows update failed rolling back

windows 10 anniversary update had that problem
i'm not trying to be funny is true, this kind of thing happens to windows users
anyway i respect your opinion and point of view
we disagree in a few point but that's all right
peace
