Need advice quick! Should I go back to my new job today?

Discussion in 'Community Discussion' started by kerplunk81, Dec 31, 2014.

  1. kerplunk81 macrumors newbie

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    I may have hurt my chances. I made up a story of a relative in the hospital. Bad I know. Now the boss called me later and told me I have to get a doctor's note saying I was there.

    I don't think a doctor can do that. Only if it's for the patient.

    Anyways the job itself is a lot tech position. It pays well $12 an hour. I'll be the third lot tech they have had. One guy worked a full day but didn't come back the next day and the other only stayed for an hour and quit. It snows where I live and it gets really cold.

    Being 30 years old right now I am looking for work that will give me skills. That will set me apart. I don't think a lot tech position will give me those skills. If you saw my resume it's mostly warehouse jobs and driving jobs. I'm trying to find work that will give me skills. Also I'm going to school right now too.

    The job schedule is 8-5 m through friday. So it will interfere with looking for work.

    The weird thing they treat the owner like he's king of the world. The guy that was training me was telling me what to do around the owner. He also went to get a truck to prep to rent to a customer. He left and left me at the bay where we clean the vehicles. I didn't know what to do so I just stood there waiting for him. He comes back and tells me not to get caught just "standing around" especially when we're on camera.

    If this was a low paying job I would quit but it pays $12 an hour.

    I don't know what to do. HELP!
     
  2. maflynn Moderator

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    I'd say honesty is the best policy.

    It sounds like you skipped work and gave an excuse that you went to the hospital.

    Short of coming clean (clearly your boss isn't believing your story), just say they doctors are too busy to hand out notes to any hospital visitors which is the truth. They have way more important stuff to do, then detail who came to a hospital.

    So what did you do - skip out for the entire day or leave for a few hours?
     
  3. retinaimac macrumors member

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    how long have you been there? do you get sick or personal days? if so, its none of their business what you do or where you are and for them to require proof of where you were is ridiculous. (could tell them they wouldnt do it because you are not the patient and it violates confidentiality) my job tries to require you to bring a program to prove you went to a funeral. I told them to go to hell and they dropped the subject but thats just me. Sorry, I know this isnt much help but it irritates me when employers do that. I understand their position but they also understand that people have lives and things happen and some days you just dont feel like going in...its human nature. I wish you luck either way!
     
  4. kerplunk81 thread starter macrumors newbie

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    Thank you for the well wishes. I never received the welcome packet that employers give you. I asked the guy that was training me about this. He said they wanted to make sure you come back on your second and third day to give you that packet. So I don't know their policies.

    I only worked until my lunch and didn't come back. I went home. Even clocking out at lunch the guy that hired me asked me if I'm coming back. :confused:

    The hard part is deciding to go back or staying home. Also the job is 20 minutes away. 30 minutes if traffic is bad.

    p.s. I also HATE employers that ask for intimate details on medical emergencies. Also hate why they ask why you need a day off.
     
  5. SandboxGeneral Moderator

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    You're 30 years old and lied to your boss at what appears to be a new job for you?

    My advice is to start being personally responsible, dependable and honest. Don't lie.

    In my job, if I make a mistake, I own up to it, usually before anyone notices and then I fix it. People will have loads more respect for someone who owns up to their mistakes. Those who lie or cover up their mistakes will be loathed.
     
  6. kerplunk81 thread starter macrumors newbie

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    You're right. But I'm so tired of working these entry level jobs. I would rather get low pay for a job that will give me skills then a higher paying job that is a dead end job that someone that just graduated from high school gets hired on.

    Oh by the way. I am ALWAYS honest and up front. I just didn't care about the job and was thinking that I will never see these people again.
     
  7. SandboxGeneral Moderator

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    You don't know that with certainty. Years may go by and you may get that job you've always wanted and the boss you lied to now, may be working there too or know someone there and will remember what you did.

    No matter how much we may not like a job, it's never wise to burn bridges or make people upset with us because it can come back to haunt us.

    Not caring, and subsequently lying, in my book, is akin to not being personally responsible, even if it's just one time. How does this boss and all the other employees know that this was a one-off? They probably don't and have now judged you poorly based on your actions, and that will always be in their mind when they think of you later on down the road.

    First impressions mean a lot.
     
  8. kerplunk81 thread starter macrumors newbie

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    You're right again. If I go back and they decide to give me a second chance to work for them. They will always have that bad taste in their mouth so to speak about me.

    So I'm still confused on what to do.
     
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    Well, I would recommend going back, apologizing, and hope they don't fire you. Then, work your butt off and be an outstanding employee and prove to them that you're truly a good guy.

    Then when you find that other job you really want, give them appropriate notice before leaving and hopefully they will give you a good recommendation and you leave on good terms.
     
  10. Arran macrumors 68040

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    Go back. You'll learn something - regardless of how it works out.
     
  11. kerplunk81 thread starter macrumors newbie

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    I'm not being sarcastic when I ask you what will I learn? I'm being serious.

    I'm not sure what will I learn from being a lot tech. Have you been a lot tech before?
     
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    I think he means you'll learn from this experience, as I have been saying - not that you'll necessarily learn something from being a lot tech (I don't know what that is).
     
  13. maflynn Moderator

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    Burning bridges generally comes back to haunt you.

    I'm still confused by the what occurred.

    You seem to say that you're leaving the job, but mentioned that you were a recent hire. Were you thinking of just walking away from the job after one day?

    Its hard but if you apply yourself you can educate yourself and work full time. I know, because I did it. I went to school at night, while working full time. At one point, I worked a full time job, a part time job and went school.

    At age 30, its time for you to get serious with yourself, the only way you'll get ahead is hard work.
     
  14. Arran macrumors 68040

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    More than you'll learn sitting at home on the Internet asking others what you should do with your life.

    Get out there. You'll figure something out.
     
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    Oh, and the reason is, those employers are trying to run a business and do it efficiently. They need dependable people who will be on time, every time, and not take advantage of sick time.

    Employers know this because there are a lot of people who take off sick time when they're really not sick. That's why they require doctor's notes - just like I do of my employees. I have a couple of them that take the day off every chance they get and that hurts the other employees who have to cover for them and then it costs me more money because I have to pay someone in overtime to fill their spot. (We have minimum staffing requirements)
     
  16. mercuryjones macrumors 6502a

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    Seriously? You took a job, that you knew going in what it was, and then left at lunch and lied to them about where you were?
    And you think that any other job is every going to give you a break with your attitude and job history? Suck it up, go back and do your job. Or quit. Stop screwing around and take care of business.
    Truthfully, you come off as very entitled, as if the job is beneath you, even though you don't seem to have any skills to speak of.
     
  17. maflynn Moderator

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    I think this comes around to how trustworthy employees are.

    For instance, I hardly take a sick day, but when I have in the past, my boss didn't ask any more from me, because she sees how I work late, take very little time off. She realizes that if I'm taking the time off, its for a valid reason.

    Not to sound harsh, but a brand new employee who takes time off is never a good sign. In fact most employers have a probationary period when new employees cannot take time off (or forfeit the days pay).
     
  18. hallux macrumors 68020

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    What is your ultimate goal? What skills would a lot tech position give you that will help you reach that goal? Did you get a college degree? If so, in what?

    I was also VERY frustrated when looking for a job. I found MANY places had "entry level" positions but required experience to get them. WTH is an "entry level" position that requires EXPERIENCE?

    I once took a job in a retail computer store (a franchise of a national chain that isn't well known) as a sales person with the prospect of becoming a tech. I am in NO way a sales person. They let me go a month later because I wasn't performing to their expectations. I was VERY glad I hadn't completely left my previous job, they were able to slip me right back into the schedule.
     
  19. Scepticalscribe, Dec 31, 2014
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    Well, I'm from Europe, so I think it is perfectly acceptable to take time off if you are sick, under the weather, or otherwise indisposed, and that one should feel able to admit to being ill without having to feel one is at death's door before one does so.

    A sick employee around the office does nobody any favours, not least in that they themselves are probably not able to work at capacity while ill, and, for that matter, may well transmit whatever it is that they are suffering from around the office, causing others to fall ill in turn.

    However, your situation does not strike me - in the least - as falling into this scenario.

    Reading your post, I find myself asking just exactly how long you have worked at this job. My impression is that you have spent a day at this job, and took half of that off with a lie to a boss.

    More worrying is that fact that your two immediate predecessors seem to have had equally sorry records - one lasted an hour, according to your post, while the other lasted a day. Is there a reason for why people seem unable to last more than a day in this position? If you knew this in advance, why did you take the job?

    Re advice, well, firstly, you must ask yourself, whether or not you wish to actually work at this job? If you do, you may need to make amends with your boss, who seems to have caught you out on a lie.

    Here, I will be frank: For some people (and cultures) lying is a flexible tool of policy and performance. For me, it is an absolute negative, in a professional setting from someone who reports to me, (or, indeed, for that matter, from someone to whom I report) in that it will colour my perception of that person forever. In practice, this means that every single encounter with that person will be subject to an extra level of scrutiny, and that every single statement will be weighed in the back of my mind with a possible question mark, and filtered for accuracy and credibility. Put simply, lying destroys trust, and trust, once destroyed, is very hard to rebuild.

    I accept that there are situations in most people's lives (both personal and professional) where lying is sometimes necessary, - or, rather, is unavoidable - from the proverbial 'white lie' to evasion, to omission to outright fabrication or elaboration of the truth to creative falsehood. The unvarnished truth can hurt. But while lying may be a reluctant last resort, in personal and professional relations, it should never be one's first resort.

    Personally, however, I try to avoid it where possible, and prefer silence, or omission, or partial truth to outright falsehood, if telling the truth is not an option.

    One final point: If you do decide to remain, you may need to address your attitude. "It snows and it gets really cold" strikes me as an odd excuse: Did you not know that in advance? Did you not think to take precautions (i.e. wear thermals?)

    Seriously, at the age of 30, you need to take some degree of responsibility for your life, your behaviour, your decisions, and your actions. And you need to decide whatever it is you wish to do with your life, and for your life.

     
  20. tobefirst macrumors 68040

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    I'm not sure you know what the word "always" means.
     
  21. yg17 macrumors G5

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    Every 6 months or so, the asset protection department of my employer releases an AP bulletin. It's basically like the police beat section of the newspaper, it summarizes some notable cases they worked on over the past months. Without names or other identifying details, of course.

    My coworkers and I love reading them, just to see how stupid people are. There's the usual - watching porn at work. Using corporate e-mail to set up drug deals. Viewing an ex significant other's account details without permission. But they also have a section on FMLA/sick leave abuse. One guy went to his grandmother's funeral 7 times over the past couple years. Others call in sick when they're actually spending the night in jail. There's always a moron who tells their boss they need a week off due to a sick relative, then posts on Facebook that they're headed to Vegas, completely forgetting the fact that they're friends with the boss on Facebook.

    With all the dishonesty by employees out there, of course employers ask for proof. And here you are, being dishonest about why you need time off, and then wondering why your boss wants proof.
     
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    I wish I could convey the seriousness and sincerity that I mean when I say this, but simply typing it out will have to do:

    Please do your employer a favor and quit the job. Based on your posts, you sound to me like you have a terrible work ethic, if any at all. An employer deserves better.

    The reality is, EVERYBODY hates entry level jobs. Most people work their way up from them and move on to something else rather than complain about how such an opportunity wasn't simply given to them.

    Sure, you can go to school to get skills, but that's not going to replace the fact that when you go to work, you're going to start at the bottom and be expected to work your way up.

    QFT.
     
  23. Zxxv macrumors 68040

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    If I was closer i'd write the note for you. Get a mate to do it ;) move on learn from the lesson.
     
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    5/6 of the OP's lifetime posts are in this thread.
     
  25. Zxxv macrumors 68040

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    or tell your boss the doctor doesn't and said he won't write a note but if he wants to call he will tell him you were there. Give your mates number or a burner phone.

    learn from the lesson and move on
     

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