Need clarifications

[Appl3FTW]

1. So technically if I want to play music, I can load music to the watch since I read somewhere that it has 8gb internal ram right? Think iPod nano 6thgen "watch". But it has to play Bluetooth headsets once it doesn't have 3mm jack. Does the watch have a speaker output? Or is it completely useless without the iPhone? If you use Bluetooth headset, would u pair it with the phone or the watch?

2. Can the watch perform standalone functionality or you really need the iPhone at all times for it to function? What I mean is can the watch show time or can it play music without the iPhone? I was thinking the only reason you would use an iPhone with notifications is when it's tethered to the iPhone app and you mirror it's functionalities to the watch. However, if you don't want to use the iPhone apps, can you still use the watch i.e. jogging without the phone with you?

 

[Wildgift]

If the music is uploaded to the watch's internal memory, you can tell time and listen to music without an iPhone. I heard this on the verge podcast.

 

[refslady]

I had my appointment at the Apple store today and we discussed this. You can jog without having your iPhone and it will keep track of your stats and upload them back to the iPhone when you are back within range of it.

It will always show time, whether or not it is paired.

You can load music to the Watch from your iPhone and play it without being in range of your phone - I am not sure how many Gb of storage are on the Watch.

 

[Appl3FTW]

If the music is uploaded to the watch's internal memory, you can tell time and listen to music without an iPhone. I heard this on the verge podcast.

Sweet that's all I want to hear.

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I had my appointment at the Apple store today and we discussed this. You can jog without having your iPhone and it will keep track of your stats and upload them back to the iPhone when you are back within range of it.

It will always show time, whether or not it is paired.

You can load music to the Watch from your iPhone and play it without being in range of your phone - I am not sure how many Gb of storage are on the Watch.

Awesome, I really want the watch to be a fitness watch I really need it to function basic functionalities like time and music separate from the iPhone. If that's the case then hot damn, a newly improved iPod nano 6th gen... Now I just need to find some Bluetooth headphones. Lol fail.

 

[cmichaelb]

Sweet that's all I want to hear.

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Awesome, I really want the watch to be a fitness watch I really need it to function basic functionalities like time and music separate from the iPhone. If that's the case then hot damn, a newly improved iPod nano 6th gen... Now I just need to find some Bluetooth headphones. Lol fail.

I think in the keynote it was stated you could load up to 2GB of music to the watch's internal memory.

 

[xraydoc]

I think I read someplace that out of the 8GB, there's a 2GB limit for music. Not sure if that's true though.

 

[Appl3FTW]

2gb? I need to check my library I think I have more than that haha. So what's the 8gb I read, was that a rumor from MR?

 

[corlando465]

I had my appointment at the Apple store today and we discussed this. You can jog without having your iPhone and it will keep track of your stats and upload them back to the iPhone when you are back within range of it.



It will always show time, whether or not it is paired.



You can load music to the Watch from your iPhone and play it without being in range of your phone - I am not sure how many Gb of storage are on the Watch.

Previous Apple New reports said that an AW can hold up to 2g of music, and I believe 2g of photos and the rest (4g) if for iOS and apps.

 

[Appl3FTW]

So it is 8gb standard

 

[Appl3FTW]

If it's 2gb for music then I'm cutting close...

 

[mightyjabba]

2gb? I need to check my library I think I have more than that haha. So what's the 8gb I read, was that a rumor from MR?

8GB is the total storage on the watch. 2GB is available for music, 75MB for photos (which sounds really small). I don't think we've been told how much is available for apps.

 

[Appl3FTW]

That's a lil puny but not bad for the first gen. I can see 8gb and 16gb for gen2.

 

[16Paws]

8GB is the total storage on the watch. 2GB is available for music, 75MB for photos (which sounds really small). I don't think we've been told how much is available for apps.

From everything I have read (iMore, MR, etc) or hear (MacBreak Weekly etc) this information is correct.

I wanted to comment about the small 75mb for photos. The concept here is that you will use iCloud Photo library and allow all of your images to live in the cloud on on the phone. You will use most of this storage (75mb) for thumbnails of the images that you may want to look at and will only get the actual images when you load them up close. The images will be transient on the watch and therefore do not need much space. It is a whole different way of thinking about it, but the 75mb should be more than enough and you will be able to look at any photo you have on your phone or in the cloud.

 

[Appl3FTW]

Ok I don't have iCloud subscription and not planning into... For now. My phone has all the storage I need. Maybe they want us to purchase iCloud storage to stream on our devices, that would kill the need to get big storage devices.

 

[16Paws]

Ok I don't have iCloud subscription and not planning into... For now. My phone has all the storage I need. Maybe they want us to purchase iCloud storage to stream on our devices, that would kill the need to get big storage devices.

Well buy default you do have iCloud Storage... You get the 5GB free with your account, but it should work similarly with streaming from the phone, but that part at least from me is speculation.

 

[AppleSnitch]

1. So technically if I want to play music, I can load music to the watch since I read somewhere that it has 8gb internal ram right? Think iPod nano 6thgen "watch". But it has to play Bluetooth headsets once it doesn't have 3mm jack. Does the watch have a speaker output? Or is it completely useless without the iPhone? If you use Bluetooth headset, would u pair it with the phone or the watch?

2. Can the watch perform standalone functionality or you really need the iPhone at all times for it to function? What I mean is can the watch show time or can it play music without the iPhone? I was thinking the only reason you would use an iPhone with notifications is when it's tethered to the iPhone app and you mirror it's functionalities to the watch. However, if you don't want to use the iPhone apps, can you still use the watch i.e. jogging without the phone with you?

1) Bluetooth headset to listen to music, music will not play through internal speaker.

2) Watch can show time without a phone and even preform as a fitness tracker without the phone (after your phone has been paired with the activity app for multiple workouts, the workout app has to get accustomed to how your heart rate and movements coincide with one another, once it learns your body, your phone can be left while you use the watch strictly as the fitness tracker).

 

[kingofwale]

8GB is the total storage on the watch. 2GB is available for music, 75MB for photos (which sounds really small). I don't think we've been told how much is available for apps.

75mb.. damn, i haven't seem a number that small when it use to describe storage.

it better have seamless compression technology, I'm not waiting for hours for photos to get compressed (reminds me of the old days of using handbrake to convert my movies to iPod compatiable format)

 

[16Paws]

1) Bluetooth headset to listen to music, music will not play through internal speaker.

2) Watch can show time without a phone and even preform as a fitness tracker without the phone (after your phone has been paired with the activity app for multiple workouts, the workout app has to get accustomed to how your heart rate and movements coincide with one another, once it learns your body, your phone can be left while you use the watch strictly as the fitness tracker).

The only it WILL NOT work though as a fitness tracker is if you want to use a piece of the fitness tracker (or a 3rd party app) that would rely on GPS as it does not have GPS onboard.

 

[AppleSnitch]

The only it WILL NOT work though as a fitness tracker is if you want to use a piece of the fitness tracker (or a 3rd party app) that would rely on GPS as it does not have GPS onboard.

It will still track your calories burned, amount of activity and log it into the app and overall heart rate, the activity and workout app will be fully functional without the phone after it learns you.

But you are right, no GPS so distance will not work.

 

[16Paws]

It will still track your calories burned, amount of activity and log it into the app and overall heart rate, the activity and workout app will be fully functional without the phone after it learns you.

But you are right, no GPS so distance will not work.

I am agreeing with you, but want you to keep in mind that if you bike rather than run (like I do) you will need GPS to get a full picture of the work out which means you will need the phone. Not that its a huge issue... thats why bike jersey's have huge pockets on that back.

I am just making sure that for anyone reading... it is understood that there are going to be certain types of works outs that having the phone with them is a good idea. I cannot wait to get my 42mm SG Sport!

 

[AppleSnitch]

I am agreeing with you, but want you to keep in mind that if you bike rather than run (like I do) you will need GPS to get a full picture of the work out which means you will need the phone. Not that its a huge issue... thats why bike jersey's have huge pockets on that back.

I am just making sure that for anyone reading... it is understood that there are going to be certain types of works outs that having the phone with them is a good idea. I cannot wait to get my 42mm SG Sport!

Sorry, misread, yes you are absolutely right!

 

[16Paws]

It will still track your calories burned, amount of activity and log it into the app and overall heart rate, the activity and workout app will be fully functional without the phone after it learns you.

But you are right, no GPS so distance will not work.

Also... technically distance should work (based off of your gate and number of steps) but it won't be as accurate (I assume) as the GPS.

 

[Wildgift]

Really looking forward to trying this with just a Bluetooth headset.

 

[omgitscro]

75mb.. damn, i haven't seem a number that small when it use to describe storage.

it better have seamless compression technology, I'm not waiting for hours for photos to get compressed (reminds me of the old days of using handbrake to convert my movies to iPod compatiable format)

iCloud Photo Library already defaults to storing only size-optimized copies of photos on devices. For instance, your iPhone will store only relatively tiny images compared to your iPad or Mac. The Watch will default to only downloading extremely low-resolution versions of your images, around 500x500 pixels, I'm guessing. It's already seamless on all devices.

 

[pragmatous]

I have well over 25GB of music on my iPhone heh. I may reduce the quality to fit more on my apple watch.

If it's 2gb for music then I'm cutting close...