The lights in the video were fine. But too many shadows. That is a sign of not lighting a green screen properly. You need even light all around. You can see it was still workable
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Need help choosing a camera (slr?) for green screen
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The lights in the video were fine. But too many shadows. That is a sign of not lighting a green screen properly. You need even light all around. You can see it was still workable
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yes i did and i can get better with an ipad, how ever its not good enough for cinema you know, aint nearly as clean or clean enough to use on a bugger screen, which means you can see spills, which evidently are in these videos, not allot but when shooting blonde girls with hair flowing you see green in the hairs, i cant crop that or it will look like a cardboard cut out, with every type of key plugin or software.
Compare those videos with a Arrie Alexa, fs3 with a lotus adapter, ex3, any red camera, but of course its way over the budget for all of us here., point is im asking what the lowest cost is to get at least the green screen.
As for the 5Dmkii, i found out during video mode that auto focus stops working at certain light depending on lens, if the lens has a ND filter (EF lens) or using a PL Nikon, Zeiss with a ND filter then no shutter effects or focus issues start, the 5d has poor auto focus, so with that said we are still talking a prime lens around 1 thousands plus dollars on top of the 3200 for the camera, hmmm, there are cameras in the video range that do this as well with green screen, clean 4:2:2 but nothing comes close to the 5d because of its FULL FRAME, 35mm.
So it turns out the 5D is and will be the cheapest FULL FRAME camera, alike the vistavision and red, almost bigger i think., if you want to capture that full frame then you need to think about the right lens.
price around $5500
i think i mentioned several times, that if you look at the video shot for that "GREAT CAMERA SHOOT OUT" websode 3, http://www.zacuto.com/shootout , at 34:27, the girl tossing her blonde hair around, you can see that they used best green screen and lighting money can buy, and you still see spills in the hairs from every single SLR they tested, yet on another youtube channel which a person compared several SLRs to a ex3 video camera http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kxszmgTszpQ, it was night and day, just look at those videos and ask yourself why., lighting or 4:2:0 as to 4:2:2, 4:4:4 out now.
I can not afford a Red Scarlett, Alexia, Cannon C300, f3 etc, the best choice for cinema quality under 10k or kit around 10 k with several good lens is the Canon 5dmkii, a Prime lens L and ND filter, the Zeiss cp2 for example, so Auto-focusing, Shutter continue to work in most light conditions during video mode., then you have a full frame camera with a prime lens to shoot very decent video, as good as the Red and many other higher priced cameras., Assuming you know the tricks, hack to DIY.
Slr autofocus stops at certain lighting conditions in video mode, ask canon, which means your pictures become blury lol. The 5d is the worse when it comes to autofocus.
The closest you can get to fix the damage of a slr 4:2:0 is by using fod with a 5 or 7 d, but the slightest out of focus shots will mislead all the chroma key software into blending the blur wi th the subject hair, I take you don't shoot close up green screens of subject, any camera ith right lighting can shout decent green screen of people far away, but when you have models, singers, want the real video deal it's better 4:2:2.video, red, Alexa, f3, ex3 etc
4:2:2 and up
Nice size sensor, 5dmkii will do
Good autofocus or manual focus experience
Good prime lens
Uncompressed video
Result, film like quality shots
The rest of the slrs are youtubish, nothing bigger then your YouTube hd
no shadows at all, where in the video do you see shadows, the guys had the best lights and lighting, its a camera test, it proves that 4:2:0 can not cut even using DOF
Autofocus doesn't work in video mode. Regardless, you shouldn't be using autofocus anyway.
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I have a canon 60d, if lit well then no problems for greenscreen
I have used eng style camcorders for 10 years as a Reality TV Director and shooter (pimp my ride, biggest loser etc), it was weird going to dslr but i love them for controlled shoots, not so keen for run and gun.
I have used eng style camcorders for 10 years as a Reality TV Director and shooter (pimp my ride, biggest loser etc), it was weird going to dslr but i love them for controlled shoots, not so keen for run and gun.
I'm still not sure what that has to do with autofocus. The post you quoted was talking about aperture and shutter speed adjustment. I'm still not quite sure what he's talking about in that post either. It seems like it might have been an issue with the camera only using auto aperture in video mode. Keep in mind that his post is from 3 years ago when the 5dmkii was originally released so whatever issues he was talking about could be a non-issue at this point. I haven't used a 5d for video, but I've never heard of that issue with those who do. And it's certainly not an issue with the 7d.
Regardless, as for autofocus I still stand by my previous statement. Canon dslrs don't use it in video mode. Secondly, you shouldn't be using autofocus for this type of shoot.
Forget what I said about autofocus, I obviously was referring to the other thread where a PHOTAGRAPHER points out the limitations of the canon video capabilities, During record mode allot stops working, people are even suggesting I get a ninja and do hdmi out full hd and record 4:2:2 but i read the signal is still not clean, so if i want a largensensor like the 5d where do i look?
Tha fact is that canon slrs behave different once in record mode , not only in the aperture, shutter areas but the output via hdmi, I read that with magic lantern one can solve many issues, regardless i never disagreed with you about using autofocus or not, I was saying anythi will help during a green screen shoot if one is desperate., dof works for some but the blurry edges can result in painfull time consuming editing around the subjects, in green spills on edges.
Back to my question, so what solution do you recomend for green screen, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kxszmgTszpQ&feature=youtube_gdata_player
The video above shows a ex3 dong a great job, yet it's 4:2:0
In the great camera shoot out I can't see a single slr pull of clean green screen.never with the massive lighting, proper balanced green etc
http://www.zacuto.com/the-great-camera-shootout-2011
Yet the ex3 I can see the hairs on the subjects arms
Of course in this video (not green screen) the alexia kicks arse in low light, http://www.zacuto.com/the-great-camera-shootout-2011/episode-one
slrs are not bad in low light these days
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I only brought up autofocus because the post of mine that was quoted directly mentioned autofocus. I simply wanted to make it clear that it shouldn't be an issue for any greenscreen shoot.
But back to your question... It ultimately sounds like a DSLR is just not for you when it comes to greenscreen work. That's because they're just not there yet. Video was originally introduced to these as an afterthought, so these camera companies didn't really start taking the video side of things seriously until they saw what the demand was. Of course it's all going to get better from here on out.
I've seen some really good results with keying DSLR footage and it's even worked out well for me on the few times I've needed to do it. Shallow DOF shouldn't be an issue. You can always stop down and throw a bunch more light on the subject.
Having said that, I'd still rather be using the EX1 I used to own for those shots. What it really comes down to is that video cameras (for the most part) naturally perform better in these situations because they were specifically designed to capture video. DSLRs will probably catch up. But if your sole purpose is to set up some sort of greenscreen studio, then you're probably better off looking at dedicated video cameras. Check out the used market. Maybe look for something that gives you uncompressed 4:2:2 out so you even have that option.
I really tried the dslr route, maybe I'll get one for the dof effects later for sepcific scenes
I guess I wanted to start with the full frame camera, larger sensor like the ones in the 1dmkiv and 5dmkii
When you say ex1 your talking Sony right?
this youtube video of the 7d VS Panasonic AG-HMC150 looks interesting
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nIRUUnmnMFk
I guess I wanted to start with the full frame camera, larger sensor like the ones in the 1dmkiv and 5dmkii
When you say ex1 your talking Sony right?
this youtube video of the 7d VS Panasonic AG-HMC150 looks interesting
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nIRUUnmnMFk
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