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Apple is usually very coy about announcing products in advance (they don't, really). Also, the iPhone, iPad, and Watch are really their focus, so I'm not expecting much out of the upcoming event on March 21. I may be wrong.

My experience is that the release of new products doesn't really reduce the price of the refurbs.

Did you get your questions about the AppleCare answered? I always buy it for my laptops, since they get more wear and tear. It won't cover abuse, but will cover the usual problems, if you have any.
 
Get 8+gab of ram.
Why?

It'd be far more helpful if you'd explain the specific quantifiable benefits to the OP of spending the extra money. Otherwise your post is kind of useless. From the OP's perspective we're all just random Internet strangers. We might actually know what we're talking about -- or we might just be blindly parroting something someone else once suggested for a completely different usage scenario.
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My experience is that the release of new products doesn't really reduce the price of the refurbs.
Yes, true, any price drops are minor and tend not to occur until the new models start to show up as refurbs themselves.

However, what does sometimes happen is the availability of older refurbs can go away. Consider the 2012 quad core Mac Mini.

Here are my questions:

1. Should I get 128 gb or 256gb? I want to use this laptop as long as I could. I am little concerns that 128gb may be not enough for future use. Is there a way to save something in iCloud?

2. The second concern is that it seems that the second offer from the local Apple is better but it is a 2014 release model. Is 2014 model similar to 2015’s? When I searched for the difference between 2, I found out that it seems the CPUs are different. The 2015’s will be faster.

3. Down to the point is: should I have a latest version but with less capacity or should I get a little old version but with bigger capacity? It is about USD $90 difference between # 1 and 2.

4. If I could spend little tidy money, is # 3 or 4 a good option? Because they provide a bigger screen. However # 3 & 4 almost reach the ceiling of my budget. Should I pick #3 or 4? Just because they have a bigger screen as I have eyes problems.
Of these four, given what you've said, go with the 13" Macbook Air with 256GB.
Saving stuff in the cloud (whether iCloud or Dropbox or Google Drive or OneDrive) doesn't necessarily reduce your local storage requirements since all those tend to keep local copies of your files. They're better thought of as ways to easily share stuff between computers / locations as well as guarding (to a degree) against data loss through device theft or drive failure.

If you're handy, consider the possibility of an aftermarket drive replacement.
Otherwise buy as much storage as you can afford. What is your current usage? Between 128GB and 256GB I'd definitely go for the latter unless you only have 20-30 GB of stuff. With video it'll likely be higher of course. Still, your storage needs aren't going to go DOWN over time, are they?

Can't really help with specifics on #2 other than to say that my 2011 MBA 13" still is perfectly fine for web surfing, document editting, a little bit of Lightroom, email, etc. The CPU differences aren't likely to be visible to you unless you're doing heavy CPU load stuff. I don't do any video so I don't know how much load that'll create.

The 11" MBA screen is kinda small IMHO. It's a great compromise for a highly portable device, but you'll likely want a 13" display if this is your primary computer. Will you use an external monitor?

The MBP you mention probably has a spindle drive. The others have SSDs. MAJOR difference in user experience. Stick with SSD or plan to replace the spindle drive with an SSD if you buy the MBP.

Now with all this said, while 4GB is pretty usable on a MBA for the stuff you describe, the video editting might be too much for it. I'd really recomment seeing if you can try it out before buying, or ensure you have the ability to return the computer if it isn't usable.
See https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/how-much-ram-do-i-need-in-my-macbook.1756865/
 
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Why?

It'd be far more helpful if you'd explain the specific quantifiable benefits to the OP of spending the extra money. Otherwise your post is kind of useless. From the OP's perspective we're all just random Internet strangers. We might actually know what we're talking about -- or we might just be blindly parroting something someone else once suggested for a completely different usage scenario.

reply:

Sorry, advice not good enough without documentation. Will provide book with full documentation next time. Your best bet is to ignore people like me who just say facts and who don't spend the time to PERSUADE you to do things with a gentle touch and a loving caress.

8gb ram or bust. unsubscribing from thread :p
 
Apple is usually very coy about announcing products in advance (they don't, really). Also, the iPhone, iPad, and Watch are really their focus, so I'm not expecting much out of the upcoming event on March 21. I may be wrong.

My experience is that the release of new products doesn't really reduce the price of the refurbs.

Did you get your questions about the AppleCare answered? I always buy it for my laptops, since they get more wear and tear. It won't cover abuse, but will cover the usual problems, if you have any.

Thank you so much for your advice. I will get the MBA probably next week even though I know there will not be any drop of price.

For the AppleCare, I am not going to purchase it right now as the MBA has already pushed me to the limit of my budget as I decided to purchase the 13" MBA with 256gb. As I know the Apple will provide 1 year of warrant, I do not worry it until next year. Hope I am right on this.
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Why?

It'd be far more helpful if you'd explain the specific quantifiable benefits to the OP of spending the extra money. Otherwise your post is kind of useless. From the OP's perspective we're all just random Internet strangers. We might actually know what we're talking about -- or we might just be blindly parroting something someone else once suggested for a completely different usage scenario.
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Yes, true, any price drops are minor and tend not to occur until the new models start to show up as refurbs themselves.

However, what does sometimes happen is the availability of older refurbs can go away. Consider the 2012 quad core Mac Mini.


Of these four, given what you've said, go with the 13" Macbook Air with 256GB.
Saving stuff in the cloud (whether iCloud or Dropbox or Google Drive or OneDrive) doesn't necessarily reduce your local storage requirements since all those tend to keep local copies of your files. They're better thought of as ways to easily share stuff between computers / locations as well as guarding (to a degree) against data loss through device theft or drive failure.

If you're handy, consider the possibility of an aftermarket drive replacement.
Otherwise buy as much storage as you can afford. What is your current usage? Between 128GB and 256GB I'd definitely go for the latter unless you only have 20-30 GB of stuff. With video it'll likely be higher of course. Still, your storage needs aren't going to go DOWN over time, are they?

Can't really help with specifics on #2 other than to say that my 2011 MBA 13" still is perfectly fine for web surfing, document editting, a little bit of Lightroom, email, etc. The CPU differences aren't likely to be visible to you unless you're doing heavy CPU load stuff. I don't do any video so I don't know how much load that'll create.

The 11" MBA screen is kinda small IMHO. It's a great compromise for a highly portable device, but you'll likely want a 13" display if this is your primary computer. Will you use an external monitor?

The MBP you mention probably has a spindle drive. The others have SSDs. MAJOR difference in user experience. Stick with SSD or plan to replace the spindle drive with an SSD if you buy the MBP.

Now with all this said, while 4GB is pretty usable on a MBA for the stuff you describe, the video editting might be too much for it. I'd really recomment seeing if you can try it out before buying, or ensure you have the ability to return the computer if it isn't usable.
See https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/how-much-ram-do-i-need-in-my-macbook.1756865/

You know what? This really bugs me as I am so concerned that I may not get used to the MBA OS system and so tempt to return it and have another Window laptop.
As I did a lot of searching for purchasing a laptop, I don't want to go through the process again!!!!
At the very beginning, I was concerning to buy a Dell. Later on, I found that the refurbs in Dell is very closed to Apple's refurbs, why don't I try Apple? What made me change to pick up the Dell refurbs is the fact that the local Dell's store staff told me that the Dell refurb could come from the display. But Apple never does that, that is one of the key element to drive me from Dell to Apple. Of course, also because so many people gave credits to Apple's good quality. So, I hope this is a good try.

Sometimes, I think that do Apple fans over-credit their products to create the myth of Apple?
Apple are well-known to people around the world, there must be something about their products. We will see what happens next week when I get the product.
 
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You know what? This really bugs me as I am so concerned that I may not get used to the MBA OS system and so tempt to return it and have another Window laptop.
Did you mean to reply to some other post?
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Sorry, advice not good enough without documentation. Will provide book with full documentation next time. Your best bet is to ignore people like me who just say facts and who don't spend the time to PERSUADE you to do things with a gentle touch and a loving caress.

8gb ram or bust. unsubscribing from thread :p
Soo... You can't justify your advice. You got nothin. Thanks for confirming that by turning tail and running when asked to substantiate your recommendation.
 
I'd second the suggestion to get 8 GB if possible.

Why?

Because CPUs have not been advancing very much. So CPU speed is unlikely to be the factor that renders your machine useless in the future. If you get enough SSD that won't be a machine end-of-lifer and it can be upgraded anyway now.

The factor that will be the end of like decider for your machine will be RAM capacity or hardware failure.

So if you can afford it, get 8 GB. It will extend the useful life of your machine considerably.

ALL new apple portables (retina MacBooks, new macbook) ship with 8 GB standard now.

That should also be a hint that Apple considers 8 GB to be the new baseline moving forward - and traditionally, apple have been pretty stingy with base model memory capacities.
 
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Soo... You can't justify your advice. You got nothin. Thanks for confirming that by turning tail and running when asked to substantiate your recommendation.

I replied it to you and I misunderstood your meaning. When I re-read what you said, I got it.
I searched for more information about ram, I definitely will go 4. That will be enough for me.
Thank you for your advice.
 
Dear all,

I hope some of you will see this and give me some advice.
Now the scenario is slightly changed. After the advice you all gave me, I decided to go for 13" 256 gb and 4gb for ram.
I just found that price difference between 2014 MBA 13" 256 gb and 2015 MBA 13" 256gb is around USD $80.
Which one should I get? I am talking both are refurbs.

If there is no significant upgrade from 2014 MBA to 2015 MBA, I will stay with 2014. I searched some information online. It seems that it is only the processor is different. Also there is an extra Thunderbolt in 2015 which I don't know what it is. Even I searched some information.

Someone told me that you always should get the latest technology device as you could, so that when the newest device come out, you are not left so much behind.

However, as I mentioned, I never got any Apple products before, NO iphone, NO MBP, NO MBA, so I will feel the MBA might be better than other Windows laptop. My point is, from Windows laptop to MBA is a big leap to me. I may not feel the different between 2014 and 2015.

Does it matter to save USD $80 dollars? As I repeat, the 2014 13"256gb has pushed to my financial limit.
Is that worthy spending another USD $ 80 for 2015?

Your advice is greatly appreciated. Thank you.
Please tell me the reason for 2015 if you suggest that this is what I should get.

One more point, I am NOT looking for the newest one but the one that I could use daily. Also my concern is that maybe I am not accustomed to MBA's system and then I let the MBA sit in the living room and waste money.
 
Here's an article with a bit of in-depth info about the differences: http://arstechnica.com/apple/2015/0...nce-trailblazing-design-is-showing-its-age/2/

I don't think the 2015 has an extra Thunderbolt port, what it has is the newer Thunderbolt2 version port rather than the previous Thunderbolt1 port. Unless you're using a 4K display I'm not sure that will make a substantial difference given your usage scenario.

IMHO if you're not a power user the 2014 should be just fine. I don't think the speed bumps in the 2015 would be noticeable for anything not cpu or graphics intensive. Until recently I'd been doing great using a 2011 MBA13 for sitting-on-the-sofa stuff, but I also don't play games and seldom did anything cpu intensive on that system.
 
The 2014 will be awesome for you. There is no foreseeable reason it won't last you 8-10 years. Also, there is no reason you wouldn't adapt to a Mac pretty quickly. The basics aren't hard, some are just slightly different than what you have previously used. If you find something confusing, your friends at MacRumors Forum will be happy to help you learn more.
 
Thank you so much for all your advice. I will pretty much pick up the 2014 as I did a lot of research. It seems that the Apple did not have a significant upgrade in 2015. Only changing the CPU and Thunderbolt 2 will not make a big difference for me.

Only one comment I saw on other web said that the MBA 2014 model has problem when he compared MBA 2014 with 2013, and 2015.

I am so much comfortable to pick up the 2014 version. Thank you so much, guys. You just helped me a lot in this issue.
Love you guys.
 
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