I only spoke of Dell so you aren't actually disagreeing with me in lauding HP. While the Dells certainly aren't crap, they're also not MP's in terms of quality in design/ engineering. I say this from the perspective of a hardware support tech in a large Dell environment.. dealing with them every day, certified, all that. (Certified Apple tech as well.) Dell makes fine machines and I have nothing bad to say about them. They're like Mitsubishi as compared to say BMW; stylish and functional but with cheaper materials. They'll still do the job, perhaps just as well.. but the experience isn't the same.
Dell has excellent customer service/support and very quick turnaround which is slightly more than I can say for Apple. The downside is you're running Windows.
Ah, misunderstood then, my apologies.