I switched to ecobee last year from nest. Winter felt so much warmer than the nest had going previous years. Replaced my nest because it kept bugging out and even stopped responding many times.
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I switched to ecobee last year from nest. Winter felt so much warmer than the nest had going previous years. Replaced my nest because it kept bugging out and even stopped responding many times.
Co-sign. Was just visiting a friend in the Las Vegas area who is all-Mac/iOS and he has an Ecobee setup with the remote sensors (really handy due to how hot it is there). Very impressive.
I really doubt it. With hydronic heat, it's not the kind of thing you change often. Again, I only speak for myself, but the thermostat is the last thing I care about in terms of HomeKit, but I'd certainly welcome it if Nest were to patch that in (if that's even possible).
I've had two nests for about 2 years now, and they've been problem-free.
That said, the ideal setup would have temp sensors in each room and a bunch of smart vents in each room for a zone-per-room solution. That's still a ways away, since the gen1 vents don't seem to be ready for prime time.
That said, the ideal setup would have temp sensors in each room and a bunch of smart vents in each room for a zone-per-room solution. That's still a ways away, since the gen1 vents don't seem to be ready for prime time.
Owned a first and second gen Nest with my 18 SEER Trane 2-stage heat/cool system with standard humidity pad and ~10 sensors in my homes. While both worked as advertised, after Google bought Nest and dropped further iOS integration with no intentions on HomeKit support, I researched for months and decided on the ecobee3 HomeKit and haven't regretted it (for those seeking better energy savings, more support, HomeKit integration, and integration with other systems I wouldn't look into Nest products). I was surprised as my energy bills in both my homes (NY and Berlin) have gone down significantly and the ecobee3 HomeKit is much more efficient and flexible than any other thermostat I've tried or researched.
ecobee3 HomeKit review:
With support for up to 32 remote sensors that detect motion, humidity, and temp, each sensor can be included or excluded in calculating overall temps and activation with Home, Away, and Sleep modes. Example, you can select which sensors to be included in "Sleep" mode and whether you want the system to take motion detection into account for determining the overall temperate ("Follow Me" settings will kick the system in if "All Sensors" are selected in determining the temp or if only those that detect motion).
"Auto-Mode" is fully supported with HomeKit and Siri. If your "Home" range is 68-74 and you ask Siri or Echo to set your home to 72 degrees, it will only kick in if the temperate is outside your currently active mode or if the degrees set in preferences differ enough (for example, if your home is 74 degrees and you ask Siri, etc to set it to 70, if 2 degrees is your differential it will kick in even if the temperature you requested is within your Auto-Mode range). 2-Stage Heating and Cooling, evaporative humidity system control, all types of heating/cooling system support, and having been testing it with iOS 10's HomeKit, it works perfectly.
Yeah, ok, sounding like a salesman. Just my two cents. Also noticed the GM build of HomeKit recognizes each sensor independently now and ecobee plans on updating the firmware so sensors will work with home security systems in motion detection and more independence (i.e. each can act as a fully independent module in their respective zones -floors - and rooms).
Also had a Dropcam when Google acquired the company and required an annual subscription for video recording. I used it for almost a year before cancelling and getting a refund for the remainder as I have Synology servers that come with surveillance support for hundreds of camera's (2 -4 licenses depending on sever, meaning two - four camera support, with additional camera support licenses costing a few bucks). Didn't see the point in supporting a system that Google clearly has no intention of supporting outside an even tighter ecosystem than iOS. If you're in the market for good indoor and/or outdoor camera's (IP, 2-way audio, night mode, motion sensors, etc.) I highly recommend Hikvision.
ecobee3 HomeKit review:
With support for up to 32 remote sensors that detect motion, humidity, and temp, each sensor can be included or excluded in calculating overall temps and activation with Home, Away, and Sleep modes. Example, you can select which sensors to be included in "Sleep" mode and whether you want the system to take motion detection into account for determining the overall temperate ("Follow Me" settings will kick the system in if "All Sensors" are selected in determining the temp or if only those that detect motion).
"Auto-Mode" is fully supported with HomeKit and Siri. If your "Home" range is 68-74 and you ask Siri or Echo to set your home to 72 degrees, it will only kick in if the temperate is outside your currently active mode or if the degrees set in preferences differ enough (for example, if your home is 74 degrees and you ask Siri, etc to set it to 70, if 2 degrees is your differential it will kick in even if the temperature you requested is within your Auto-Mode range). 2-Stage Heating and Cooling, evaporative humidity system control, all types of heating/cooling system support, and having been testing it with iOS 10's HomeKit, it works perfectly.
Yeah, ok, sounding like a salesman. Just my two cents. Also noticed the GM build of HomeKit recognizes each sensor independently now and ecobee plans on updating the firmware so sensors will work with home security systems in motion detection and more independence (i.e. each can act as a fully independent module in their respective zones -floors - and rooms).
Also had a Dropcam when Google acquired the company and required an annual subscription for video recording. I used it for almost a year before cancelling and getting a refund for the remainder as I have Synology servers that come with surveillance support for hundreds of camera's (2 -4 licenses depending on sever, meaning two - four camera support, with additional camera support licenses costing a few bucks). Didn't see the point in supporting a system that Google clearly has no intention of supporting outside an even tighter ecosystem than iOS. If you're in the market for good indoor and/or outdoor camera's (IP, 2-way audio, night mode, motion sensors, etc.) I highly recommend Hikvision.
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No HomeKit support from Nest.
Hear me now and believe me later...Nest SUCKS.
Go with the Ecobee 3!
If you've got a Raspberry Pi sitting around, install HomeBridge and the Nest plugin. Ta-da, HomeKit support for Nest.
I've owned a Nest for 4 years. Never had a single problem. And I say that as someone who is leaving Nest. The only reason I'm leaving the Nest ecosystem is because they're the last remaining stubborn holdout on HomeKit. I'm getting either a Honeywell Lyric or an Ecobee and replacing my NestCam with a Canary.
Off topic, I have to say this: It's "than", not "then".
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You're missing out. A single use case convinced me that I had to move my thermostat to HomeKit: "Goodnight Siri".
Having my home "fall asleep" when I say goodnight is the coolest (haha, look a pun) thing I've used technology for. My lights dim down, my tvs shut off, my locks lock, my cameras turn on, and my AC starts cooling my home to the 19°C I like to sleep at. In the morning, "Good morning, Siri" does it all in reverse.
My home's temperature is such a fundamental part of that experience, and Nest opted to stay out. My feeling is that they're going to lose that game of chicken as has been demonstrated by Ecobee eating their lunch lately.
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Well, considering my heating is hydronic, and my cooling is ductless mini-splits, this won't do much for me at all.
My alarm is on when I turn it on when I walk into the house, my doors are ALWAYS locked, and my lights are the only thing I need to turn off - which I do with my Lutron Caseta shortcut on my lock screen. I can't say "GOODNIGHT SIRI" because it will invariably wake up the wife.
Nest - a company very much like Apple with products that cater to those that want to spend a bit more for a superior experience. They get bought out by the Walmart of Technology, don't lower prices and refuse to keep their bread and butter (Apple customers) happy. Sure, Tony Faddell made a killing on the sale, but Nest should be doing everything they can to deeply integrate with iOS. No HomeKit support? Are you kidding me?
More new HVAC devices in the latest designer colors available from Central Services. Life imitates "Brazil".
Smart thermostat company Nest today announced three new colors for its flagship product, the Nest Learning Thermostat, now coming in white, black, and copper, in addition to the traditional stainless steel variant. The new colors are said to be available for a limited time only, but Nest didn't specify for how long they'd continue to go on sale. The purpose of introducing more colors and finishes was to help Nest "fit into every home."
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Haha . . . the police are now confounded where the last thing they see on every tape of a burglary is a masked face and a hand with wire snips reaching up.
I get that most people probably dont have an internal mounting point/box to wire it up, but at least have it come out the top so you can wire it up through a second floor window or something.