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Google-owned Nest has unveiled Nest Cam Outdoor, its first new product since co-founder Tony Fadell left the company.

The outdoor home security camera is similar to last year's Nest Cam - now called the Nest Cam Indoor. The wired outdoor Cam captures 1080p HD video and features a two-way mic, 20-foot infrared night vision, and a 130-degree wide-angle viewing lens.

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In addition, the Nest Cam Outdoor features waterproofing and a more rounded design, while a magnetized disc on the rear of the camera fixes it to external surfaces, such as house guttering.

Both cameras carry the same price tag of $199 and work with the Nest mobile app, which the company says will receive a redesign later this month. The app offers encrypted video streaming as well as additional $10-per-month, subscription-based video features, including upcoming features like wide-angle camera views and human profile detection.

The camera doesn't work with Apple's HomeKit, but Nest says it will work with Google Home, despite the camera running on its own proprietary platform.


The new camera signals Nest's ongoing commitment to developing smart home products on its own, despite being acquired by Google in 2014 and its co-founder and former CEO leaving the company last month. Speculation regarding Fadell's departure revolved around recent issues at Nest, including a long length of time between product releases and software issues with the Nest Protect smoke detector that led to a recall.

Tony Fadell is credited as one of the original creators of the iPod, heading up the project as senior vice president of the iPod division at Apple from 2006 to 2008. He still holds a role as "advisor" to Nest, and left a two-year roadmap for the company's new CEO Marwan Fawaz, a former Motorola executive.

Article Link: Nest Releases Outdoor Security Camera, Mobile App Update in the Works
 

Chupa Chupa

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The app offers encrypted video streaming as well as additional $10-per-month, subscription-based video features, including upcoming features like wide-angle camera views and human profile detection.

How exciting... another monthly subscription fee!

It strikes me as odd how "cord cutting" has become so popular and yet the # of other products with monthly fees continues to proliferate. I am so sick of monthly fees, but this one is absurd. $10 for the camera to act like a camera and give you a wide angle view? Or face recognition, something that home based software can do. It's a monthly pick pocketing but consumers buy into it even as they reject the monthly cable bill. So bizarre. I would think they would reject all this monthly nickel and diming.
 

JosephAW

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I'm assuming I can use my own remote ftp server as well like my dlink cameras
 

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I've been using Blink for my cameras at home and they're pretty awesome. They don't have HomeKit or an outdoor camera yet (they say by year end, but I've been using mine outside anyway), but for the price they're great. For the $199 Nest wants for each camera, you get 3 Blink cams and a hub. Plus, they're wireless and there is no monthly subscription cost. HomeKit would be a nice feature but they have scheduled arm/disarm so I wouldn't really even be using it that much. They say they are currently working on IFTTT.
 

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How exciting... another monthly subscription fee!

It strikes me as odd how "cord cutting" has become so popular and yet the # of other products with monthly fees continues to proliferate. I am so sick of monthly fees, but this one is absurd. $10 for the camera to act like a camera and give you a wide angle view? Or face recognition, something that home based software can do. It's a monthly pick pocketing but consumers buy into it even as they reject the monthly cable bill. So bizarre. I would think they would reject all this monthly nickel and diming.

"Cord Cutting" is about hating monopolistic cable companies, not being poor. People just want choice on their subscriptions.
 

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"Cord Cutting" is about hating monopolistic cable companies, not being poor. People just want choice on their subscriptions.
The issue is the proliferation of subscription services to the point where its death by a thousand cuts. 10 dollars a month isn't bad, on its own, but throw in 6 or 7 other subscription services and its quickly high. I have a handful of subscription services but I'm seriously looking at what I can do to find alternatives at this point.
 

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The issue is the proliferation of subscription services to the point where its death by a thousand cuts. 10 dollars a month isn't bad, on its own, but throw in 6 or 7 other subscription services and its quickly high. I have a handful of subscription services but I'm seriously looking at what I can do to find alternatives at this point.
Agreed. It's a slippery slope. It's easy to say it's "just $10" a month, but that quickly adds up when there's 8 services you're subscribed to!
 
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The issue is the proliferation of subscription services to the point where its death by a thousand cuts. 10 dollars a month isn't bad, on its own, but throw in 6 or 7 other subscription services and its quickly high. I have a handful of subscription services but I'm seriously looking at what I can do to find alternatives at this point.

I have two Nest cameras. One to monitor the backyard because there is a huge construction project going on and the other is in the front for security and bird watching. However, next July I will look for alternatives to rid the subscriptions. Cable, Netflix, hulu, cell phones and nest; adds up quick.
 

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I have a bunch of NestCams and a bunch of Nest Protects (v2). They've all be rock solid insofar as stability is concerned and have a nice feature where if smoke is detected, the cameras will start to record and my iPhone is notified. It's proven itself a few times - fortunately it's only been while my teenaged daughter is attempting to cook something on the stove rather than an actual emergency.

I've preordered two of the outdoor models. One of my NestCams is mounted in a 3rd party outdoor case and I love it. Two more will complete my outdoor surveillance coverage.

I have a ton of HomeKit devices throughout my home, but for security products, at least for now I'm sticking with Nest. And fortunately, there's not much automation a camera requires. They already turn on when I leave and turn off when I come home automatically with a geofence.
 

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How exciting... another monthly subscription fee!

It strikes me as odd how "cord cutting" has become so popular and yet the # of other products with monthly fees continues to proliferate. I am so sick of monthly fees, but this one is absurd. $10 for the camera to act like a camera and give you a wide angle view? Or face recognition, something that home based software can do. It's a monthly pick pocketing but consumers buy into it even as they reject the monthly cable bill. So bizarre. I would think they would reject all this monthly nickel and diming.
It seems the average consumer has already forgotten what software can do locally.

Why does Siri still need internet for every single task?
Why do I have to "subscribe" to more and more software that is PERFECTLY reasonable to buy once and own for a long time until an upgrade MIGHT be useful? (*stern look at Adobe*)
Why the **** are we putting up with this crap? Vote with your wallets folks... ffs...

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Chupa Chupa

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"Cord Cutting" is about hating monopolistic cable companies, not being poor. People just want choice on their subscriptions.

Not sure how you interpreted my post to even suggest cord cutting has anything to do with wealth, or lack thereof. Regardless it's an incorrect one.

My point is that people are cord cutting because they are tired of paying for that product's overpriced monthly subscription and yet the overpriced/unnecessary subscription model continues to proliferate.

If you read my post carefully it's not the subscription model per se that I'm questioning, it's the companies using the subscription model to enable functionality as a ploy to suck out monthly fees from consumer wallets when a one-time fee home software package is possible. It's similar to apps that require "in app purchases" to make the app usable. In this case, a $10 fee to enable wide-view mode and facial recognition. You don't find that a ludicrous or at least a bit appalling?

This is very different that the old magazine subscription or fruit of the month subscription where you are getting actual product for your money. This is using a subscription to enable features of a product that should just be part of the spec list or not and sold for a flat price.

So you are wrong IMHO, it's not always about choice. The modern subscription model used solely to enable functionality is closer to tyranny. The consumer's choices are more limited, not widened by it, especially as they proliferate. Typically subscription model generates more revenue for a company because the consumer ends up pay net more for the product than if it was sold at a one-time price.
 

Ivanovitchk

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wow, the Nest outdoor cam suc** :eek: !!

I'm not affiliated in any way with them but have a look to the Netatmo outdoor cam:
  • same functions,
  • no monthly sub,
  • large 12W LED floodlight,
  • invisible IR floodlight (twice the range of the Nest),
  • on-device SD-card &/or personal FTP video storage (u mad google?)
  • a better design (this is subjective but it's kinda more apple-y)
data sync is via Wifi, the cam itself is wired for power but it's designed as a light fixture replacement...

another good choice would be Kickstarted Blink cam. They are not outdoor-rated but they are truly wireless and can run a year on AA batteries thanks to their energy efficient custom silicon.
 
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Chupa Chupa

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It seems the Average consumer has already forgotten what software can do locally.

Yes. Not sure if its more sad or a bad joke. I had a Netbook years ago -- you remember those wimpy slabs that were said to be the future of computing. Anyway, it cost I think $199 and had some puny Intel Atom chip so pretty much a toy. But it used facial recognition to unlock. And it did work, and no subscription necessary.

Maybe Lenovo should re-release those and charge a $10 subscription fee to access your laptop. Heh. Seems far fetched but then so does paying $10 a month for a camera to zoom out.
 
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