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I haven’t had the need to use Airplay with Netflix yet, but I can see how this is bad news for some. They’re just giving people more reasons to switch when Disney+ or Apple streaming service is available.
 
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Disney owns the marvel IP and will probably use it to push their own streaming service. Netflix announcing their cancellations would only be advertisement for the competition.
Ok, but that service you are talking about isn’t even out so it wouldn’t be advertisement. No big deal they didn’t tell me, I canceled my subscription when I found out anyway.
 
the difference is that apple completely re-imagined those markets. the iphone was revolutionary compared to the competition. but apple was revolutionary back then. there is absolutely nothing revolutionary about apple's streaming service.

Said the guy who hasn’t actually seen it yet
 
Said the guy who hasn’t actually seen it yet

and i'll happily change my mind if they announce something different, it just hasn't happened yet.
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Ok, but that service you are talking about isn’t even out so it wouldn’t be advertisement. No big deal they didn’t tell me, I canceled my subscription when I found out anyway.

Disney+ is announced, it's coming this fall and they've already announced new Marvel series about Loki, Vision and Scarlet Witch.
 
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Thing is: AirPlay is not reliable in any way, shape or form. Just use the Safari App, watch an embedded video from a page on full screen on your Apple TV - and chances are, if you end the video, AirPlay will fail and still be active on your mobile device. So, I see where Netfix is coming from. Apple didn't do their homework and AirPlay just has problems which aren't solved. Until they get their sh... ehm, stuff together, I would disable it as well. It's probably fair to say that there is a chance that Netfix got support questions about that and people were not satisfied with the answer "It ain't me, babe!"
 
and i'll happily change my mind if they announce something different, it just hasn't happened yet.
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Disney+ is announced, it's coming this fall and they've already announced new Marvel series about Loki, Vision and Scarlet Witch.
“Announced” is not available. I don’t care so much about the shows you mentioned. I was referring to the ones I watched already. Is it announced that daredevil and punisher will be picked up with Disney+?
 
ok wowwwwww honestly all these years my dumb a$$ thought airplay was performed over a network!!! Maybe I just never read much into it thinking I'd never use it?? Basically same as airdrop and now I live by it (I think a lot of the general public doesn't realize how amazing airdrop is).

It used to be. Then Apple introduced peer to peer airplay in 2015, which basically did away with the need for a network, probably to appeal to schools and businesses.
 
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Besides Netfix wanting to cut the circumvention that mobile devices can stream to big screens, the mobile carriers have also limits on hotspotting phones - where using AirPlay would be a way to circumvent this. I used my TV that way before and how it actually works is somewhat convoluted: The "AirPlay" actually works as a direct stream as if you do not use your phone but rather use a modem with remote. This means that internally, you are using the hotpot function which- as far as I read into it - is not the 0-line, meaning using the data for phone use (e.g. browsing, email, watching content on your phone) but the 1-line which is external content, meaning you use it in hotspot mode. It is not a screen forwarding. Same is true for full-screen in your browser. I know that because I tested it with a Verizon iPhone X, looking at my "unlimited" allotments which are both not truly unlimited and you can see which kind of data cap you are closing towards.
This convolution is not working smoothly either. It causes crashes - especially when stopping a stream or small speed drops - because the devices do not buffer enough (that's my explanation, but I might be wrong on that).
I read you can get around the dedicated line issue to exploit more "device data" for airplay etc. by using certain VPNs that contrary to your terms of service with your providers just tunnel all traffic from and to the device through the 0-line, masking AirPlay as genuine device traffic. However, the VPN providers do not advertise how they do their software and this is a trial and error thing because many actually switch "correctly" between the modem types.
 
“Announced” is not available. I don’t care so much about the shows you mentioned. I was referring to the ones I watched already. Is it announced that daredevil and punisher will be picked up with Disney+?
Nope. There have been some hints, but it would be a couple years from now and who knows if the actors would even want to do it.
 
My friend uses airplay to control what his young kids watch. Therefore no streaming apps on the Apple TV or chromecast
 
The Netflix iOS app detects a smart TV on the network and then streams to it over standard protocols supported by Android or Tizen OS. The Netflix app on the TV doesn't need to be active.

But does it need to be installed? The point is, how do you stream Netflix from an iOS device to an Apple TV that doesn't have the Netflix app installed.
 
and i'll happily change my mind if they announce something different, it just hasn't happened yet.
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Disney+ is announced, it's coming this fall and they've already announced new Marvel series about Loki, Vision and Scarlet Witch.

I thought they were dead?
 
Lame excuse.

Apple TV remote is supported by an app AND the control centre widget on iPhone and iPad. Much better than the remote itself.
If I am going to use my phone anyway though, I might as well just use Airplay and native phone app.
 
Disabling system function should not be allowed in App Store Review Guideline. But even if Apple made this change, do they dare to remove Netflix app due to violation? The Pandora's box has been opened.

iCloud access, AirPlay, etc are built-in system functions and no app should be allowed to disable them or charge in-app purchase for such functions.

Just like no app should charge people $9.99 per week for downloading wallpapers and trick people into paying through Touch ID when people just wanted to quit the app by pressing on the home button.

Does Apple care? I guess Apple cares more about AppleCare income than this.

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Apple, in contrast, is
Apple in contrast is very late to the party and Netflix have a significant advantage against them when it comes to original content and general brand recognition in the streaming business. There are dedicated Netflix buttons on the remotes of most new TV's for Christ's Sake and you people here are acting like Apple "has the advantage".
Not only this but Apple is not a company that's willing to take risks and throw a lot of money at something that is not certain to bring them a lot of profits. This also puts them at a disadvantage vs Netflix.

And last, Apple's total debt is 114.5 billion dollars. But this is always ignored.

I don’t believe I ever wrote that Apple will never be successful.

You didn't have to, it's common sense. If Netflix is going to decline(so lose their current success) then there's no reason to believe Apple's streaming service will be successful. It's not like Apple is going to do anything better than what Netflix is currently doing.
 
Apple in contrast is very late to the party and Netflix have a significant advantage against them when it comes to original content and general brand recognition in the streaming business. There are dedicated Netflix buttons on the remotes of most new TV's for Christ's Sake and you people here are acting like Apple "has the advantage".
Not only this but Apple is not a company that's willing to take risks and throw a lot of money at something that is not certain to bring them a lot of profits. This also puts them at a disadvantage vs Netflix.

And last, Apple's total debt is 114.5 billion dollars. But this is always ignored.



You didn't have to, it's common sense. If Netflix is going to decline(so lose their current success) then there's no reason to believe Apple's streaming service will be successful. It's not like Apple is going to do anything better than what Netflix is currently doing.

Except I explained why I believe that, but you conveniently omitted that. Netflix has no other source of revenue, and is 100% dependent on subscribers. Apple is carrying debt, but is a drop in the bucket compared to their cash surplus, and is in no way dependent on their programming to sustain the company, but rather adding a value proposition for their customers. Netflix has no way out other than to be the top original programmer of all time, something they are failing miserably at currently. And you think Apple doesn’t have name recognition? I guess we’re done here.
 
I don’t know about you, but I can’t randomly install apps on other people’s apple tv’s (like in an office, a hotel room, etc.) when I want to show something on Netflix.

And when you're in one of those situations (like in an office, a hotel room, etc.), how does Netflix's ability to work with AirPlay help?
 
Except I explained why I believe that, but you conveniently omitted that. Netflix has no other source of revenue, and is 100% dependent on subscribers. Apple is carrying debt, but is a drop in the bucket compared to their cash surplus, and is in no way dependent on their programming to sustain the company, but rather adding a value proposition for their customers. Netflix has no way out other than to be the top original programmer of all time, something they are failing miserably at currently. And you think Apple doesn’t have name recognition? I guess we’re done here.
Your explanation is weak and ca simply summarized with the words: Apple has money. The end.
Well in the real world thing are not this simple.

And you think Apple doesn’t have name recognition? I guess we’re done here.
So you are saying Apple can put their badge on anything and it ill be successful?
I clearly specified that Netfix has more recognition as a video streaming service. TV manufacturers are integrating a Netflix button on the remotes of their Smart TVs and Netflix's app is everywhere. Now are you going to deny these facts?

Apple is carrying debt, but is a drop in the bucket compared to their cash surplus

It's actually almost half of their supposed cash surplus.
This is the problem with you, everything is black or white.
 
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They allow us to watch movies on our PHONES. They don't really care about quality. They just hate Apple.
 
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