You could if your TV shows the input resolution.
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You could if your TV shows the input resolution.
Moonjumper
macrumors 68030
Me. If I'm in the mood. And if someone is obsessive enough to discuss it on the net, I'd think that qualifies.
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Then, how does it matter? It's all on the ATV, then.
Personally, if I want to be obsessive about A/V quality, which I usually am, I get a disc that says Bluray somewhere on it.
Well, Netflix is probably using a more efficient codec, as well, BD is 8 years old. So, it doesn't need to be as high as BD. But, it's all relevant. The difference between "SuperHD" and "HD" on Netflix does happen to be resolution. Or did, if it's gone as discussed.
dugbug
macrumors 68000
No he is saying the apple tv always outputs 1080P (or whatever your tv supports). This is divorced from the stream quality. All products do this. Nobody exposes the TV sync to the whims of your internet data rate.
One common example, Apple TV will freeze the scene and buffer. The image being displayed is a single frame of the movie, but its being output at 1080P/60FPS (or again whatever your TV does).
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No its about offline direct connection between the source material (BD disk) and the player with guaranteed local bandwidth (HDMI, 1080P standards). Encoding a BR disk could have taken hours, you don't care really as you have the finished product.
Netflix encoding has to be done on the fly based on real-time feedback of the decoder on your end. Netflix has to do such adaptive encoding to survive unpredictable data rates and keep the movie from stalling. Its pretty impressive.
Sigh. I'm going to stop posting here. I guess you should point us all to your 100% complete list of Netflix-capable products, which shows their specs for output features. (and how they arrive at that output)
Also, my "TV" accepts more input types than most. I choose what I send it, I don't rely on "whatever". I do know a little about electronics. And I don't use an ATV.
dugbug
macrumors 68000
Sigh. I'm going to stop posting here. I guess you should point us all to your 100% complete list of Netflix-capable products, which shows their specs for output features. (and how they arrive at that output)
Also, my "TV" accepts more input types than most. I choose what I send it, I don't rely on "whatever". I do know a little about electronics. And I don't use an ATV.
Umm ok? Your TV and your device (say, Roku or Tivo. FOrget appletv and rolleyes or whatever) agree on a frequency and stay there.
Moonjumper
macrumors 68030
Sigh. I'm going to stop posting here. I guess you should point us all to your 100% complete list of Netflix-capable products, which shows their specs for output features. (and how they arrive at that output)
Also, my "TV" accepts more input types than most. I choose what I send it, I don't rely on "whatever". I do know a little about electronics. And I don't use an ATV.
Hi JAT, I think you misunderstand what dugbug and I were trying to point out.
Netflix sends out a variable bitrate signal, that includes adapting the resolution, to the best the internet connection can support at that point in time. The Apple TV takes that signal and outputs an image at whatever resolution it is set to display, typically 1080p. Upscaling happens in the Apple TV, so your TV has no information on the resolution before then.
Therefore you cannot use what your TV is saying as the input for working out the Netflix resolution.
TsMkLg068426
macrumors 68000
So any news yet when the surround sound issue would be fixed for Netflix on Apple TV? Really annoying I do not get how Netflix can screw up like this and not fix it right away.
Julien
macrumors G4
Another question might be: Can Netflix update the App or does this require a complete firmware update from Apple? I have never seen an App update on ATV like iOS, OA X or even my BD player (which is the way I'm watching Netflix now for 5.1).
Also I see SuperHD listed on my BD player's Netflix App.
TsMkLg068426
macrumors 68000
How can Apple or Netflix screw up so bad with their updates on Apple TV? I am amazed this is not priority for them to fix it as if Apple TV is the last thing that matters for Apple.
If your eyes can't tell the difference does it really matter??
gmanist1000
macrumors 68030
Doesn't show up on my Apple TV anymore either.
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So no more Dolby Surround 5.1 and Super HD on Netflix? So less and ****** quality with a high price of $8? Netflix is becoming a rip off I got Apple TV to get Surround Sound not stereo junk.
$8/month is a high price?
farleysmaster
macrumors 6502a
You can also find out easily what resolution you're being sent by viewing one of the netflix sample test videos. Generally I've seen the quality ramp up to full super HD within about 15 seconds (at a guess).
TsMkLg068426
macrumors 68000
It is when you are paying for something they promised and not getting it just like their selection of movies, only fe good ones and the wrest I can find it at Walmart in the $1 bin dvds.
I didn't say your eyes couldn't see the blur, the fuzz, etc. if you don't know which feed they are sending then is it the tv, the box, the feed, or is it as good as it gets?? Having the known standard to go back to.
In addition the principal of what was marketed and sold to me.
And why would they not want to differentiate it?? Promote it?? I would guess that people were complaining about not being able to get the "super" and so to settle the fiery they just did away with the name so everyone is left in the dark now.
laurim
macrumors 68000
I didn't see the "SuperHD" designation until the instant I plugged in my ATV 3 that could actually receive a 1080p signal. A day before, when I was using an ATV2, it only said "HD". Netflix's HD is whatever HD your setup can handle. Differentiating with adding "Super" is just stupid so I'm not surprised the update didn't bother recognizing the tag anymore. All it did was indicate you are using a 1080 device to view it. Netflix sends the amount of information your entire setup can actually handle, period.
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I'm sorry. What did Netflix promise that you're not getting? Seriously, what do you expect for less than 27 cents per day??
i can get buying newer movies on blu ray, but do you really want dozens of old catalog movies taking up space on your shelf?
Exactly, I wonder whose fault is it, Apple OS 6.1 or Netflix? I am on ATV3.
I am neither seeing Super HD anymore, although perhaps Netflix has dropped showing this as best available resolution is available to everyone now. However, I am also not getting DD 5.1... It's all in stereo now.
So what happened?
Seems like poor quality control on Apple's part for not finding the 5.1 issue before releasing the last update and poor response to a major bug since it hasn't been fixed yet -OR- a lack of transparency to not report a known incompatibility.
I wonder if it has to do with Apple using their own CDNs. My other devices (Roku, Fire TV, Samsung TV) support 5.1 audio just fine on Netflix, but they all use the new interface and adaptive streaming. If Netflix is no longer fully supporting Apple's content delivery method, the issue may not go away any time soon...
I wonder if it has to do with Apple using their own CDNs. My other devices (Roku, Fire TV, Samsung TV) support 5.1 audio just fine on Netflix, but they all use the new interface and adaptive streaming. If Netflix is no longer fully supporting Apple's content delivery method, the issue may not go away any time soon...