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Every company is getting greedy because they know they can, Netflix is a joke now much they charge then they wonder why people torrent
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It appears Netflix isn't satisfied with their $10-20 monthly squeeze. They want even more.
 
Netflix are the ******s here. Why do you and I have to pay for the ability to have four streams when all we want is the 4K aspect? You ignore that they’re bilking you for a feature you don’t even want or need. And a tier that offers SD-only in 2022 is hilariously awful.
Yeah I agree
 
I am going to put It this way, I am gonna cancel my Netflix account if I get an extra bill for watching a show while I am at a friends house.
 
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Lol yeah I’m sure they’ll drop the price if/when they implement this ?
I'm not saying I believe they'll drop their prices after implementing this, I don't expect them to (even though it is possible if they get enough backlash and lose enough subscribers) I'm saying that I fully believe it wouldn't be at the price it is today if they would've implemented this a long long time ago. I'm pissed every time they raise their prices and I've said for years that I wish they would just stop allowing password sharing instead of raising prices.
 
Netflix are the ******s here. Why do you and I have to pay for the ability to have four streams when all we want is the 4K aspect? You ignore that they’re bilking you for a feature you don’t even want or need. And a tier that offers SD-only in 2022 is hilariously awful.
That's exactly what I stated pages ago. I want 1080p FHD, so I have to buy 2 screen plan. Why not make the 1 screen plan FHD quality? Then guess what? No extra screen to share.

The fact they even sell a sub-HD plan is an insult to whoever pays for it.
 
I'm not saying I believe they'll drop their prices after implementing this, I don't expect them to (even though it is possible if they get enough backlash and lose enough subscribers) I'm saying that I fully believe it wouldn't be at the price it is today if they would've implemented this a long long time ago. I'm pissed every time they raise their prices and I've said for years that I wish they would just stop allowing password sharing instead of raising prices.
Post after post, you keep saying that increased prices = password sharing. Using the same logic if everyone has their own subscription, then prices SHOULD decrease! Or (as many of us here have pointed out), it will just be a giant money grab for Netflix and they'll increase subscriptions, rake in more money, and keep raising prices.
 
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The fact they even sell a sub-HD plan is an insult to whoever pays for it.

FWIW it looks fine to my middle-aged eyes, watching on a 46” TV ten feet away. Not letterboxed or stretched.

Though I don’t pay for it I guess, base tier included with my T-mobile cell plan. Wouldn’t be a subscriber if it weren’t free.
 
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Post after post, you keep saying that increased prices = password sharing. Using the same logic if everyone has their own subscription, then prices SHOULD decrease! Or (as many of us here have pointed out), it will just be a giant money grab for Netflix and they'll increase subscriptions, rake in more money, and keep raising prices.
Jesus Christ dude, I'm not against what you're saying, I also, like you, hate the dumb notion that the 4K tier also has the dumb "4 screens" thing, I would personally love (and think they should) have 4K no matter what tier you're on. All I'm saying is you have to look at the business side of it, password sharing is bad for their business, and everyone here is trying to argue that it's good for their business, like it's a feature that's helping them more than it's hurting them. And I simply disagree, I think it was stupid of them to allow and encourage password sharing from the beginning because it is clearly only sending a negative message now when they OBVIOUSLY have to take it away.

I fully believe in the notion that the market will dictate what a company can charge for a product/service. People vote with their wallets. With what you're saying you're acting like Netflix can just charge $100 a month and everyone will just pay it, when no, that is ridiculous, millions and millions will unsubscribe. Netflix is able to raise their prices and not lose a ton of subscribers because so many people are sharing their accounts with multiple people. Netflix knows this, they see the data, and they make business decisions based on that data. There's the fine line of trying to maximize profits, how much can they charge without losing customers, that's how capitalism works. And like it or not, password sharing absolutely plays a huge role when the company is dictating the price, it's part of the data.

My whole point is basically this was a long time coming and should be a surprise to no one and it's crazy to me how many people are crying about it. Especially when it's actually a pretty fair deal, Netflix isn't stopping people from password sharing, which is what I thought they would do, they're just charging a few extra dollars to do it, which I think is more than fair and makes sense.
 
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all the butt-hurt faux outrage here is ridiculous - everyone knows netflix passwords are widely shared & that many of those freeloaders should be paying their own way

Im also not taking it from people who pointlessly upgrade their iPad annually (save your money) or with kids in college dorms who’d happily drop $15 on a cocktail or a Five Guys for 10-minutes amusement
 
Netflix doesn’t have to buy the show. It has a model it thinks works. If the show is that great, and not under contract, someone else will make it. That has zero (0) to do with market control.

That someone can read 13 pages on Netflix, Disney, HBO Max, Apple TV+, and more choices and subscription options than one can shake a stick at then reach the conclusion that capitalism is crushing options says more about the reader than the actual situation.
 
Netflix doesn’t have to buy the show. It has a model it thinks works. If the show is that great, and not under contract, someone else will make it. That has zero (0) to do with market control.

That someone can read 13 pages on Netflix, Disney, HBO Max, Apple TV+, and more choices and subscription options than one can shake a stick at then reach the conclusion that capitalism is crushing options says more about the reader than the actual situation.
Did you even read the analysis of the issue? It doesn’t matter what people want. We see this with the games industry too. Many industries. Corporations tell us what they want us to want. And then they cancel product and shows that make a good profit just because they don’t make ALL the profit.
 
While in all honesty, its not fair that one guy buys a netflix subscriptions and give it out for his social circle...

I think Netflix forgot that bittorrent still exists...and its free...and its not geo-restricted...and it has everything not just a specific library.
 
Did you even read the analysis of the issue? It doesn’t matter what people want. We see this with the games industry too. Many industries. Corporations tell us what they want us to want. And then they cancel product and shows that make a good profit just because they don’t make ALL the profit.

Completely true, people with the money to make the product they want to sell and the rest of us have to buy it because no one else has that much money to make an alternative.
 
For my family, we have tmobile. My parents/in-laws are on our plan and divide the cost to save money. Nothing illegal about that. They live in different states or homes. They should be able to enjoy a service that they help pay for. Not that they even want to watch the crap on Netflix...well, maybe my dad... Either way, it's not a hard decision to dump Netflix. My kids can watch LITERALLY anything else - Disney+ will eat Netflix's lunch.
 
Did you even read the analysis of the issue? It doesn’t matter what people want. We see this with the games industry too. Many industries. Corporations tell us what they want us to want. And then they cancel product and shows that make a good profit just because they don’t make ALL the profit.
Yes, I read it. Like I wrote, Netflix has a model that they think works for them. You don’t have to agree. You don’t have to like it. You don’t have to give them money. They aren’t “controlling” anything beyond what they choose to produce and air. If someone else sees potential in that show, or whatever else Netflix doesn’t, then someone will pick up the show. If not, then not.

If corporations are telling you what to want, that’s on you.
 
Yes, I read it. Like I wrote, Netflix has a model that they think works for them. You don’t have to agree. You don’t have to like it. You don’t have to give them money. They aren’t “controlling” anything beyond what they choose to produce and air. If someone else sees potential in that show, or whatever else Netflix doesn’t, then someone will pick up the show. If not, then not.

If corporations are telling you what to want, that’s on you.
It must be nice to have your wants aligned with global corporate interests.

The myth of the free market is discussed all over the place. It's actually quite hard to "just pick another studio/publisher/store/vendor/product", and the evidence is all over the place, in almost every industry. Belief in the so-called free market does not make it so.
 
It must be nice to have your wants aligned with global corporate interests.

The myth of the free market is discussed all over the place. It's actually quite hard to "just pick another studio/publisher/store/vendor/product", and the evidence is all over the place, in almost every industry. Belief in the so-called free market does not make it so.
I want what I want. Whether I can get it at a price I want, or at all, is a separate issue.

It’s really not hard to just pick another studio/publisher/store/vendor/product outside of desire for particular IP. If I want a particular game or show or movie, I have to go to the IP owner. If not, I can buy a different car, TV, AVR, appliance, or pretty much anything else I can think of.

Can you give some examples of how it is actually quite hard to "just pick another studio/publisher/store/vendor/product" for anything other than IP or some edge cases?
 
I want what I want. Whether I can get it at a price I want, or at all, is a separate issue.

It’s really not hard to just pick another studio/publisher/store/vendor/product outside of desire for particular IP. If I want a particular game or show or movie, I have to go to the IP owner. If not, I can buy a different car, TV, AVR, appliance, or pretty much anything else I can think of.

Can you give some examples of how it is actually quite hard to "just pick another studio/publisher/store/vendor/product" for anything other than IP or some edge cases?
I stopped focusing on the Netflix and streaming media part of this subject long ago in this conversation; sorry if that was opaque.

Market control is all over the place. From consumer goods at the grocery store (if all the stores in my region decide to replace a brand I like with their own version of it, I have no choice but to buy theirs, and this happens constantly), to content creators trying to shop their works around to publishers after their current one canceled on them for a lesser performative profit margin than they'd "prefer" (and often getting no buyers, or the IP being locked into publishing deals with companies who hold rights but do nothing with them), to people trying to get a new product to market, only to find bad faith patent lawsuits waiting for them (THE reason IP gets locked up in non-practicing ownership).

It's not edge cases. It's in every market and every industry. I'm at a loss as to why you do not perceive it.

Type "the myth of the free market" into a search engine and read the analyses provided by a lot of people who can write (and conduct studies) a lot better than I can.
 
It's not edge cases. It's in every market and every industry. I'm at a loss as to why you do not perceive it.

Type "the myth of the free market" into a search engine and read the analyses provided by a lot of people who can write (and conduct studies) a lot better than I can.

I think I don’t perceive it because it’s not my experience. I can’t think of any “consumer goods” that are still on the market but just blanket disappeared from all the stores in my region, for example.

I asked for examples of why it’s hard to pick another “whatever” but the response was more hand-waving generalities, so this has gone as far as it’s going to.
 
I think I don’t perceive it because it’s not my experience. I can’t think of any “consumer goods” that are still on the market but just blanket disappeared from all the stores in my region, for example.

I asked for examples of why it’s hard to pick another “whatever” but the response was more hand-waving generalities, so this has gone as far as it’s going to.
How is it handwaving? I don't have the inclination (nor the responsibility) to spend my own time trying to introduce to you (random internet stranger on a forum) concepts that other people have already published about. All you need to do is just go look. That I'm not going to hand-deliver the content to you directly does not falsify my statements.
 
How is it handwaving? I don't have the inclination (nor the responsibility) to spend my own time trying to introduce to you (random internet stranger on a forum) concepts that other people have already published about. All you need to do is just go look. That I'm not going to hand-deliver the content to you directly does not falsify my statements.
You said it is actually quite hard to pick another store, etc. I asked for an example of how that’s hard. You didn’t provide an example. That’s fine. Your lack of desire to support your claim doesn’t put the onus on me to support it for you.
 
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