Similar to what I was thinking.
A few from/started years ago, though recently it appears “invest” equates to toss bags of money at anybody offering a script.Netflix said:
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Netflix Testing Add-On Payment for People Who Share Accounts Outside Their Households
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Probably one subscription for the whole dorm building, rite??
Or would it be the whole campus? ?♂️
That works for my household. We watch Netflix on 2 iPhones and 3 computers.
We only have 2 people in our household though. I guess families with children will need to pay extra. As will households that like to stream Netflix on their iPhone, iPad and a computer. Or households with multiple TVs. etc etc etc
What about if you travel for work and carry an Firestick or similar for the hotel TV so you can watch your shows?
Agree for the most part, but I'd say it's more like 80% trash. They have a handful of gems (like Stranger Things), but the volume at which they pump out C-tier "filler" trash is remarkable.
Decouple streaming quality from number of streams and it will remove a driver for sharing accounts.
I'm single with a nice TV, but I have to pay for 3 extra streams if I want the quality my TV can show, and am used to from other streaming shows (except terrible Now TV in the UK). Kids don't seem so bothered with the streaming quality on an iPhone, but have 4K available because they are part of a family plan.
I don't bother with Netflix because I don't want to pay £16 a month for a service that doesn't seem worth it, and I cannot be bothered with the hassle of sharing an account with friends and setting up payments (especially as I would probably dip in and out depending on how busy I am). I know others who do share with friends, which is probably what Netflix wants to crack down on, but it is the only way it makes sense to be a customer of theirs for many people.
I'm single with a nice TV, but I have to pay for 3 extra streams if I want the quality my TV can show, and am used to from other streaming shows (except terrible Now TV in the UK). Kids don't seem so bothered with the streaming quality on an iPhone, but have 4K available because they are part of a family plan.
I don't bother with Netflix because I don't want to pay £16 a month for a service that doesn't seem worth it, and I cannot be bothered with the hassle of sharing an account with friends and setting up payments (especially as I would probably dip in and out depending on how busy I am). I know others who do share with friends, which is probably what Netflix wants to crack down on, but it is the only way it makes sense to be a customer of theirs for many people.
Unless you were in the same location for weeks or months on end, I would expect Netflix's algorithms would identify it as intermittent access and therefore you were likely on work or vacation.
And if you are there for an extended time (like a long assignment or a summer vacation home), you should be able to contact Netflix Customer Service and get the location "safelisted".
I think 80% of the reason I keep paying for Netflix is because my sister's family uses my account. On average, I probably watch less than 5 hours a month of Netflix content. No way Netflix is worth $4/hour. I really should ask my sister and niece how much they actually use Netflix. If they don't use it much, just cancel my account.
Anyone staying in a hotel/commercial property and using the family Netflix account should be easy to identify that they're traveling for business/pleasure at a hotel. Hotels typically have commercial/business internet accounts. That would be the clue that it's the primary account holder (or child/partner) traveling with a 2nd device used while traveling. Especially if no one at the usual IP range/ISP is using the account at the same time?
I have a previous generation AppleTV just for when I'm traveling? I can't remember the last time I bothered with the awful satellite TV offerings most hotels have? So far, the only issue I've had was with YTTV preventing me from watching my home/local news station to try and catch up on the weather I'd be driving into on my way home. Could only watch the "local" news where I was at the time..
An AirB&B that isn't providing internet access from a business class internet service could possibly cause some issues?
We have a holiday home. I ain’t paying a separate fee to watch when we visit there on a weekend.
We don’t tend to access Netflix from both houses at the same time - but there is sometime the odd weekend if someone stays home that we might be using Netflix together at the same time.
If they email or have an on-screen pop-up - I’ll just cancel. I am almost ready to cancel as it is. Hardly watch anything on there anyway.
We don’t tend to access Netflix from both houses at the same time - but there is sometime the odd weekend if someone stays home that we might be using Netflix together at the same time.
If they email or have an on-screen pop-up - I’ll just cancel. I am almost ready to cancel as it is. Hardly watch anything on there anyway.
Point is they need to identify a reasonable mechanism to differentiate legitimate use cases.
Seems like "# of streams" would do that, not sure why they feel they need do something different.
Or a million other scenarios. All these posts are asking the wrong question. It doesn't matter how Netflix determine's this type of usage. It will always be 100% wrong. They already limit you on the number of concurrent streams. You pay for that. They cannot limit you further when you've paid for it.
Because (now) not only do we have general video streaming but production/broadcast specific (e.g., Paramount, (NBC) Peacock, …) wanting an insider’s grab of the pie.
Likewise, we split time between home and cabin. We use youtubetv to serve both places.
As for Netflix, only reason we have it is T-Mobile added Netflix-on-us to our cell plan at no charge and I resubscribed. Still don't watch it a whole lot, so I doubt I'd pay anything extra.
People living in one dwelling unit do travel, including for work. My dad is home on the weekends, and gone during the week, sometimes weeks at a time, sometimes at the same client. But he's still *living* in the same dwelling as my mom. That's still his *household*.
The definition of "household" doesn't matter as much as how exactly they wanna track and enforce that.
It seems very out of touch with actual reality. Maybe they got stuck a bit too much in pandemic mind with everyone being home at all times.
Sure they can. It's a month by month subscription. They need only anounce a change to the TOS effective on some date in the future and anyone who continues their subscription effectively agrees to that change.
IMHO the # of streams limit should be all that's necessary.
I'm wondering when the break point will be when cable is cheaper than streaming services and we see many people going back to cable. I suppose the difference is content, but I don't feel Netflix has any really compelling content on a regular basis. The little they have I can just sub for a month, go through it, and unsub again. Plus they heavily pad their content with foreign movies and content.
Cable does extend past the actual house. I think that's what Netflix is wanting, to be more like a Cable company.
So you want Netflix to create a database of where every member in a household spends their time all over the world? The security/privacy risk of that getting hacked alone, might not make that kind of database worth it for the extra revenue of catching the freeloaders.
A better system would just be to bill accounts by how many simultaneous streams they want to use. Then adjust their prices for their desired business model accordingly.
Charging by number of devices (so now I have to pay more because I purchased an iPad), or streaming locations (so now I have to pay more because I spend the weekends at grandmas), just adds so many extra complications and hurdles for legitimate subscribers.