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i cancelled after the last price rise because I live alone so only ever used one stream of an HD sub and didn’t think the value proposition was there anymore. If they made basic full HD I’d resubscribe. Plenty to watch between Disney, Freeview (U.K.) and Prime video. Sharing a 4K plan with the extra would also probably be acceptable to me but needlessly complicated and not fair on those who don’t have someone to share with. What I think they should have done is just make all subs 4K and disallow password sharing. Much simpler / fairer in my opinion.
 
While $2.99 to be able to continue "account sharing" is actually a fairly reasonable charge, I really feel like Netflix is overestimating its position here.
I think some of this is “shareholder theatre” for the markets which expect not just endless growth but endlessly increasing rates of growth.

Truth is, streaming services had a couple of boom years during pandemic “lockdowns”, which is now subsiding, they’re facing more and more competition from the big studios’ new streaming channels - both for subscribers and when buying/retaining show, they've had a lot of new content delayed because covid, and, on top of that, people are tightening their belts because of rising prices. All the streamers‘ profits are going to be taking a haircut, and as one of the more expensive services (especially if you want 4K) Netflix are extra vulnerable.

….but, for the moment, let’s pretend it’s all because of password sharing and everything is going to be right if we fix that. Netflix are following their own advice: “Don’t Look Up!”

Personally, as soon as I finished “Stranger Things“ I cancelled Netflix to give Disney+ a go for a while. I’ll probably go back in 6 months or so when I’m fed up with Marvel and Star Wars - but the Star/Hulu section in D+ is pretty extensive, too, and has less crud than Netflix or Amazon.

Of course, the great thing with streaming is that you don’t “miss” stuff if you unsubscribe for a few months. Netflix must hate that - what’s the betting we‘ll see minimum-18 month subscriptions before long?
 
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My IP changes ever day, additionally I use a vpn on occasion which isn’t illegal either. How would they even know unless they are willing to deal with a lot of „false positives“.
Your device still has a MAC address which has nothing to do with Apple Macs.
 
They're going to have a hard time 'cracking' down on this in the EU, because of the privacy laws they aren't allowed and aren't able to check IP addresses. ISP's are only allowed to share that when it comes from law enforcement, and only if there's a warrant. Aside from that: tough tits.

This isn't true. Indeed, several TV operators in Europe already do something like this, as does Spotify on their family accounts.
 
I love that some of you think that Netflix will allow you to travel around and won't make you buy the extra "password sharing" feature. They could do it but why would they when they can just plead technical ignorance and make more money.
 
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In the UK I recall Sky having a similar system for their Sky Go service, you logged in on Device A and it recorded that device in their portal, showed its name so 'Freds Ipad'. You were allowed to login on up to 4 devices (likely more now) and you were only allowed to remove and login to a new device once a month.

It worked as we used it for a while, I don't remember ever being able to bypass it. Once your 4 devices were logged in, it was locked down and you could literally swap out a device once a month and nothing more.

Unsure how Netflix plans to do this but Public IP address is really not a good idea, its simply impractical considering people move about. If I switch off my WiFi on my iPhone then my IP changes once I move to Cellular.
 
Hope this backfires, and hope they really feel the pain.
Losing the office at the end of 2020 was really the beginning of the end for Netflix, and they’ve been making mistake after mistake ever since
Losing The Office wasn’t them, just like Star Trek it went to the networks own streaming service.
 
I still have yet to see anything about how families with college kids will be handled. No way in hell I'm paying extra for my kid's subscription just because she lives in a dorm for 9 months of the year.
 
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I checked on the wayback machine. This page is first registered in March of 2022, plenty of us subscribed prior to this NEW definition. this are not the same terms people agreed before.

TOS/EULAs can and do change. By continuing to use the service you accept the terms.
 
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I think I am the only person on this forum who still enjoys their netflix sub even if it is getting a bit pricey.
They still have far and away the most non-English content, almost always with excellent captioning in the original language that matches the dialogue well. A majority of what I watch on Netflix is in French or Spanish with French or Spanish subtitles. (And I'm looking forward to watching Dark in German when my German is good enough, but it's not quite there yet.)

They are not changing the terms of service.

The terms of service have not changed on this for a decade, and always said that it was limited to household.

The definition of household is the regular legal one that is used for filing taxes - people who are normally (i.e. the majority of the year) resident overnight in the same domestic premises. I hope some of you trying to pretend this is complicated aren't in charge of filing your family's tax returns.
That's the thing. That is not the definition of a household or a dependent for filing taxes. In a few weeks, our younger kid will join his brother at college, so we'll have two dependent members of the household in separate dorms 45 minutes away. By any common legal definition, they are members of this household. This is their domicile and will be until they graduate from college.
 
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I got sick of Netflix pretty fast. Nearly every show they produced that I personally liked was canceled after one or two seasons. I got tired of investing into shows that I knew were just going to end up cancelled… They very rarely actually conclude a show. It was actually really infuriating.
 
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I hear ya but this is not the first thread on MR about Netflix and password sharing and the number of members here that try justify theft by blaming Netflix and their service/pricing is astonishing. If you do not get value from the Netflix subscription at its cost.... cancel it and complain to Netflix, don't steal by sharing passwords.

Theft is theft.

But it's a pretty weak argument that people are 'stealing'...

EDIT: When you give them the ability to do it...
 
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But it's a pretty weak argument that people are 'stealing'...

How so? People using Netflix agreed to their TOS/EULA and to their definition of 'household'. If they then share their password with a cousin in another state or a friend living in the next town over that is stealing.

Pretty simple really.

Please be specific, how is that not stealing?
 
TOS/EULAs can and do change. By continuing to use the service you accept the terms.
Local law trumps TOS/EUL, for example we in sweden pay a copy tax on every storage be in any Device, so we by law can share music in the private sphere, looked at with streaming services in mind.

NOTE: ”Where the exact boundary of the private sphere goes is a matter for the application of law and ultimately for the European Court of Justice to decide”

https://www.regeringen.se/497e93/co...eringsersattningen-i-framtiden-sou-202220.pdf
 
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nope. I’m tempted to get rid of Netflix right now- I’m not paying more per user when I already have a plan that gives me a set number of screens simultaneously. Netflix will realize how this will not do then any good when there’s a mass exodus.
 
I have been on the fence with getting rid of Netflix for a while. I do password share with my cousin. I am allowed with my plan to have 2 devices streaming at the same time, so he uses one and I the other. If they start charging more for a service I barely use it will be the nail in the coffin for me as I rarely find anything worth watching on Netflix as it is. BritBox gets most of my watching hours and every now and then I am on Prime, which comes with my Amazon Prime account that I would pay for even if it did not have the streaming service so I could that one as a freebie.
 
How so? People using Netflix agreed to their TOS/EULA and to their definition of 'household'. If they then share their password with a cousin in another state or a friend living in the next town over that is stealing.

Pretty simple really.

Please be specific, how is that not stealing?

I guess a case could be made that they likely wouldn't be subscribers anyway and are 'using' the Netflix services and a drain on their resources and not be subscribers, but the original subscriber was given 'x' number of logins (apparently? I'm not familiar with their policies and what a subscriber gets) and that makes it possible to share those.

I ride an app for my trainer that will instantly logout any current logged in user if another login tries to use the service. You *can* share the login credentials as many times as you want, but the more times you do, the less time you may have to ride. If Netflix wants to eliminate this, they need to make it either one login, and one user period, or tie the separate logins to the serial number of the box it was first used. To me, the first would be the best solution, but would require separate accounts for each device. Or require devices to have a GPS receiver and refuse to operate if it is moved. (AT&T, in their ridiculous 'Micro-cell' boxes, had a GPS receiver likely for the same reason. Is the person 'subsidizing' someone else. Hmm) If Netflix went to a preemptive login system, with 'accessory accounts' for additional devices, they would find out who their devoted customers are, for sure...

Personally I find the Netflix idea as dated as Blockbuster. How many people shared rented videos? How many people ripped rented videos? At some point you have to realize that punishing your customers for flaws in your delivery system is counter productive?
 
I got sick of Netflix pretty fast. Nearly every show they produced that I personally liked was canceled after one or two seasons. I got tired of investing into shows that I knew were just going to end up cancelled… They very rarely actually conclude a show. It was actually really infuriating.

THe pandemic was the bridge abutment that a lot of shows head-oned into also. There was a show about a guy that died, and his 'essence' was uploaded into a virtual reality setting, and his GF could visit him. It sounded corny AF, but was actually interesting on some levels. Pandemic hits, *poof* it's on hiatus, and no apparently it came back, but is 'different'. *shrug* But I missed the show, for years. Wondering if it would ever come back. I feel your pain...
 
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