Haemorrhaging money every single month, year in year out, for the privilege of endlessly surfing thumbnails until bedtime? I'd rather switch the TV off and go sit in the garden. Sharing shmaring. Much more fulfilling things to be doing than being brainwashed by Netflix. I wouldn't have it if it was free.
Netflix Testing Password Sharing Plan That Costs $3 Extra in Latin America
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bn-7bc
macrumors 6502a
Like any other buisness
This right here.
Up-charging for 4K HDR(which no one else does) in 2022 is already pretty egregious (especially given the quality isn't even that great.)
To then say "Oh but you get 4 simultaneous streams... but we won't let you share with anyone outside your household... oh and we get to determine the definition of household," is just insanely anti consumer.
While $2.99 to be able to continue "account sharing" is actually a fairly reasonable charge, I really feel like Netflix is overestimating its position here.
IMHO Netflix needs to:
1. Up the bar for their original content. They need to stop wasting money on mediocre filler, and focus on high quality productions (Stranger Things, House of Cards) and building their brand in markets like Japan that are large but have relatively low budget TV. If they're going to compete with Disney, they'll live or die on OG content...
2. Simplify its rates. If they really want to cut down on "account sharing" they need to stop up-charging for BS like 4K and multiple screens
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It does not cost them more. But they miss out on an extra income.
They set the rules for the service they provide. And you agreed to those rules when you signed up. If you don’t like those rules you can cancel your subscription
bn-7bc
macrumors 6502a
You are technically wrung, each new network you connect to will give you a new ip address, if you are in a location with multiple zccess points ( hotel, railway station, stadium etc) your device can jump between multiple access points broadcasting the same ssid ( depending on the sites config) without changing ip. But yea unless you are on a really big site ( large uni campus etc) yo will ofc also change wifi networks and hence ip address. But the fact remains that the ap has nothing to do with the assignment of ip addresses ( in fact the ap is just a layer to bridge from ethernet to wireless once you are authenticated).
SoldOnApple
macrumors 65816
Me and my mates have been testing this feature in Australia for years 😏
Netflix uses 99% of its budgets to fill their catalogue with placeholder shows and movies that all have the worst reviews of all time. When there are some good shows, they cancel them as the audience may be a bit low and replace it with 10 tv shows nobody will ever watch. They don't spare anything, they loose customers.
This is dumb and people have enough of it as there is competition.
This is dumb and people have enough of it as there is competition.
NoIdentity
macrumors regular
How so? Let’s say I subscribe and often visit my mom in another country (living on the border is a thing), but my SO stays at home. Now she watches at our home and I on my mom’s TV. In this case I’m the one who is paying and it is still my household use. Netflix on the other hand will see this as password sharing.
In many markets, license holders and content distributors are not necessarily the same company.
NoIdentity
macrumors regular
I checked on the wayback machine. This page is first registered in March of 2022, plenty of us subscribed prior to this NEW definition. this are not the same terms people agreed before.Netflix begs to differ and if one agrees to their TOS and/or EULA by using the service....
What is a Netflix Household?
A Netflix account is meant to be shared with people who live in the same location with the account owner.help.netflix.com
Theft is theft.
Just to be clear, I think they charge too much for what they offer as well. At this moment I still pay for their service but I will cancel it before committing theft.
senttoschool
macrumors 68030
They don't know for sure. That's why they're occasionally asking the original owner of the account to verify the new location via email. If you're the original account holder, it shouldn't be a problem because you have access to the email.
pauloregan
macrumors 6502
They should offer $8 per main account, and every username added on is cheaper $4 and all provide UHD etc.
Maybe add a $2 surcharge on the extra $4 addon accounts if they away 'away from may property accounts'.
Maybe add a $2 surcharge on the extra $4 addon accounts if they away 'away from may property accounts'.
lazygolfer666
macrumors member
Well, Netflix is still a big thing in Argentina, is not like you just cancel and change to Amazon Prime lol.
I don’t live there anymore but my family has DirectTV/HBO so they can pay for Netflix easily. I don’t think Prime video is worth it there as there’s not Amazon at all.
I know for a fact that is quite common that everyone shares their password there (same with Disney Plus).. we can debate about that but I understand why Netflix is doing it, and if we are going to judge them let’s use the same with Apple who doesn’t let me add my family to Share Family
I don’t live there anymore but my family has DirectTV/HBO so they can pay for Netflix easily. I don’t think Prime video is worth it there as there’s not Amazon at all.
I know for a fact that is quite common that everyone shares their password there (same with Disney Plus).. we can debate about that but I understand why Netflix is doing it, and if we are going to judge them let’s use the same with Apple who doesn’t let me add my family to Share Family
NoIdentity
macrumors regular
Let’s use the correct language in articles. This is not “cracking down” on passowrd sharing this is outright changing the terms of service. For years Netflix provided simultanious streams and never enforced any measuers on where and how where those streams happening. They even allowed people to acces to the accounts in different countries.
This is what you paid for, for 5 account with 4 simultanious streams. How do you define a household and how much you move around is your own thing.
If this would have been something that they would have enforec before, fine. But since this is something that worked that way for years that must have been the way they intended. Let’s not kid ourselves this is not about password sharing, this about unlimited growth in a limited economy. even if every single person in the world subscribed to Netflix they would be still chasing the next quarter earning increase. At some point Netflix growth will stop (has stopped) and they should think of have to provide a stable service and stable income with the infrastructure they have built.
This is what you paid for, for 5 account with 4 simultanious streams. How do you define a household and how much you move around is your own thing.
If this would have been something that they would have enforec before, fine. But since this is something that worked that way for years that must have been the way they intended. Let’s not kid ourselves this is not about password sharing, this about unlimited growth in a limited economy. even if every single person in the world subscribed to Netflix they would be still chasing the next quarter earning increase. At some point Netflix growth will stop (has stopped) and they should think of have to provide a stable service and stable income with the infrastructure they have built.
The Phazer
macrumors 68040
Yes, Disney+ as a business have to license content from Disney Distribution operating as a separate business, who charge market rate and terms for content. They have to do this, as otherwise talent working on the shows do not get as much money for their revenue sharing agreements as part of sales.
Fox lost an enormous legal case on this a few years ago because Fox Distribution (who are now part of Disney) was found to be selling the show Bones to Fox Play for less money than they could have got for it elsewhere. https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/b...nding-profits-case-stunned-hollywood-1238843/
The Phazer
macrumors 68040
They are not changing the terms of service.
The terms of service have not changed on this for a decade, and always said that it was limited to household.
The definition of household is the regular legal one that is used for filing taxes - people who are normally (i.e. the majority of the year) resident overnight in the same domestic premises. I hope some of you trying to pretend this is complicated aren't in charge of filing your family's tax returns.
The Phazer
macrumors 68040
Netflix gained subscribers last quarter (not loads, but some) if you ignore that they had to cut off 700,000 users in Russia because of US sanctions meaning they were no longer legally able to take payments from them.
The Phazer
macrumors 68040
Netflix has aggressively blocked VPNs since before Disney+ even launched.
I think this point is being lost on alot of people.
If you have cable TV or Sky, you can't take a mini box and put that in your mum or buddies house to split the costs.
Eventually all streaming services will crack down on password sharing this, it's just that netflix was first out of the gate.
Also YouTube isn't free, they have ads and most videos then have sponsorships in them, which covers the costs.
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If you have cable TV or Sky, you can't take a mini box and put that in your mum or buddies house to split the costs.
Eventually all streaming services will crack down on password sharing this, it's just that netflix was first out of the gate.
Also YouTube isn't free, they have ads and most videos then have sponsorships in them, which covers the costs.
-AE
Of course they can put restrictions on your use of content which isn't yours. And they do. And you agreed to it.
Yuukon
macrumors member
They're going to have a hard time 'cracking' down on this in the EU, because of the privacy laws they aren't allowed and aren't able to check IP addresses. ISP's are only allowed to share that when it comes from law enforcement, and only if there's a warrant. Aside from that: tough tits.