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Netflix Tests Disabling In-App Subscriptions on iOS in Some Countries
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Subscribing through a country with a weak currency (e.g. Turkey at currently ~2.30 USD for the lowest tier, 5.80 for the highest) will get you an even greater discount.
I just want to say the same, what does that part followed by “provided” mean? Does that mean “you can provide whatever paid content you want, as long as you also sell them via in-app purchase”? If so, amazon, audiobook and probably netflix IS going against the rule because they provide paid contents via the app but do not allow customers to purchase them via in-app purchases?
I am sure Apple will be happy to help their customers by abandoning their idiotic fees. By offering subscriptions without extra fees they can privide valuable service and thus promote their devices.
Apple isn't responsible for Netflix's user experience. Netflix can make it easier, at a price, or harder for their customers as they wish.
Indeed a tiny minority.
In sydney, coles does not support Apple Pay. Woolworth I think supports Apple Pay. Target does not support Apple Pay. Tons of shops, stores, restaurants and many other such merchandise with EFTPOS do not support Apple Pay. So what? I will continue using my anz card to pay at these locations.
Not having Apple pay is definitely not the end of the world.
Greed? Are you for real? I own an online business and payment processor rates are 2 to 5% and these processor companies are at much more risk of fraud, handle much more load, need to support third party systems, etc, Apple is charging over 10 times more for doing much less.
Netflix has to pay for content (either third party or their own), infraestructure (data centers, app development, payment processors, etc), advertising, and so on. They can barely afford all of that by charging you a mere $10/ month, now imagine having to keep the business afloat with only $7 per user. They are no MoviePass.
Not to mention Apple already charges a pretty penny for letting you publish on the Appstore. No wonder why Apple is making so much from its "services" division.
I don't think the $99 annual developers fee will really trouble a company with $12 billion in revenue.
Anyone that believe it’s fair for Apple to take a cut of subscription services then must believe Apple deserves a cut of Uber and Lyft transactions.
The 30% apple cut or the 15% apple cut for ongoing subscriptions is outrageous. Bloody highway robbery.
Apple provides developers with a market that's willing and able to spend money. As an app developer i have no problem with their cut. For larger businesses with huge marketng budgets the cost isn't worth it, but they don't need to use Apple's infrastructure...and they don't have to, as this decision shows.
Seems everyone is forgetting, iTunes billing = discounts of up to 25 % when you purchase iTunes gift cards on special.
Also, if they also introduce those ‘ads’ they are trailing then a second reason to stay away from Netflix.
I dropped Netflix 2 months ago for $5 a month Amazon prime video... awesome price.
This new Netflix BS gives me even more reason to stay with Amazon.
Also, if they also introduce those ‘ads’ they are trailing then a second reason to stay away from Netflix.
I dropped Netflix 2 months ago for $5 a month Amazon prime video... awesome price.
This new Netflix BS gives me even more reason to stay with Amazon.
I am sure Netflix is perfectly capable of providing great service for their customers on all platforms including iOS. For some reason, Apple prefers not to allow for that to happen. Another opportunity for one of those snarky Samsung commercials?
I love arguments like this. Like you somehow have a right to use Apple's infrastructure to host your app, provide bandwidth for downloads, provide advertising, marketing and easy access, globally and all in one place FOR FREE.
Microsoft learnt the hard way that it's better to allow in app sign up than try and force people to a website for sign up. Many people choose Apple for ease of use, they want things to just work and trust apple to keep their personal details safe. The less people you share your data with, the less of a footprint you have for hackers to take advantage of.
I think commenters in this thread are more emotionally invested in it than either Apple or Netflix. Both will make simple balance sheet calculations
- If Netflix can make more money with subscriptions and sign ups with greater friction than in-app purchases, they'll go that way
- If Apple can make more money by altering the terms of in app subscriptions to be more amenable to Netflix and others, they'll go that way
A lot of drama over a spreadsheet really.
True, but i guess this could be a test to make sure Netflix gets more control.. "Once we see you can pay the subscription on time, you might be allowed to pay via a 3rd party again" type issue.
No problem with that i can see. Perhaps it may even teach late payment uses a lesson. It's not uncommon, as you get charged anyway % of late paying utility bills.
Just another form of control.
These companies are losing more than Apple commission. Subscribing through iOS enables to easily see all of your subscriptions through iTunes in one place, therefore very easily to cancel them. Having subscriptions separately through each company's website, people are much less likely to cancel them.
Some people would argue they should.
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Oh yeah. Netflix needs Apple to advertise for them... sure. Also, what’s the 100$ a year per developer for if not paying for server space?
Not to entirely disagree with the thrust of what you’re saying (that Apple’s commission may be high or perceived to be high) but the $100 is for administration and support mainly. Pay that and you get to ask Apple questions about their APIs, request changes and so on. It’s definitely more than a certificate and a virtual slot on the App Store.
There is a good number of games with “gatcha” feature and in-app purchase. The “gatcha” functions similarly as a gambling machine. Instead of awarding people money, “gatcha” awards people in-game contents (weapons, costumes, some sort of materials etc.). The game is usually free. But “gatcha” needs a special currency in the game such as crystals, jewels.
It’s not about fairness but about control. Apple controls their App Store and by extension, developers who want to park their apps there need to play by the App Store rules.
Of course they are more than welcome to try and circumvent the rules. Just don’t expect Apple to sit idly by and no nothing in response.
It’s a constant cat and mouse game. Let’s see who has more leverage. Apple, or everyone else.
Well yes we do
I am not sure why your even knocking MS who make IOS devices far more productive for millions by offering MS Office for free
You seriously think MS should be charged for making IOS devices better with probably the best productivity suite for many, which has mutual benefits for Apple and MS and more importantly IOS users
Whilst I agree Apple appear to have high standards in regard to data protection this is only for native apps that they are responsible for. 3rd party apps by developers are not so highly accountable and only recently (June) did Apple suggest stricter controls on data mining by developers
They are all at it just look at these permissions:
This is Apple Music on Android, now tell me why Apple need to know my contacts etc regardless of security
I should allow this just because Apple is trustworthy ………….
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Same here. I guess they don't care about making things convenient for their customers who prefer to manage all subs from one spot.