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Hmmmm...

I don't want to come across all cynical, because like most people on here, I am a major Apple fan boy, so thats my little disclaimer.
But when I was thinking about upgrading my phone a couple of months ago and in doing so, contemplating the iPhone, one of the major pulls of holding out for me was the upcoming App Store. In theory I feel it provides a great platform for developers to supply software that people actually want.
But now we've had the App store for a month, I cant help but feel its all a little bit lackluster.. The apps that would of genuinely been of use, such as Netshare internet tethering and proper sat-nav, still havent materialized, largely because of all the red-tape, whether this be from Apple or the network providers.
I mean here in the UK, if i look at the App store now, the most popular paid for app is 'Koi Pond'.. I mean get real!! Closely followed by other simple games and a couple of convertor tools.
In the end I actually went for a Nokia e71 blackberry/nokia hybrid mainly for other reasons.. Namely the full physical QWERTY keypad. Its not perfect but thats a whole other thread and Im kind of getting off the point here!
But what Im trying to illustrate is that as of yet, for me, the App store has been a disappointment which is not helped by the removal of actually useful software like Netshare...
:)
 
I don't think O2 have a problem with it, it's just AT&T AFAIK.

Terms and conditions below. The bit about "on your iPhone only" suggests it might be a problem, but I'm interested to hear other views.

UNLIMITED DATA / WIFI EXCESSIVE USAGE POLICY
Your O2 tariff for iPhone allows you unlimited use of Telefónica O2 UK Limited's Edge / GPRS networks and The Cloud's UK Wireless LAN network, for personal internet use, email and Visual Voicemail (VVM) on your iPhone only. All usage must be for your private, personal and non-commercial purposes.
You may not use your SIM Card in any other device, or use your SIM Card or iPhone to allow the continuous streaming of any audio / video content, enable Voice over Internet (Voip), P2P or file sharing or use them in such a way that adversely impacts the service to other customers of O2 or The Cloud. If O2 reasonably suspect you are not acting in accordance with this policy O2 reserves the right to impose further charges, impose network protection controls which may reduce your speed of transmission or disconnect your tariff at any time, having attempted to contact you first.
 
Because dear comrade, since we unfortunately don't live in a socialist society, capitalism dictates that power-hungry, money-hungry, blood-sucking, life-draining, Wraith-like companies can stick it to the common man, and charge you for every little improvement of life you might enjoy.

This is exactly the reason that I chose to get rid of my Laptop Connect card I got from AT&T right before my 30 days were up before they required the $200 cancellation fee. It would have been nice to tether my future 32GB iPhone to my Macbook Air and not have to pay an additional $60 a month. Oh well, when we ALL realize that progress for its own sake and the progress of humankind, as opposed to progress for profit is worth more, then we will have a world closer to that illustrated in Star Trek. ;)

Ok, so let me get this straight. If you pay for unlimited data transfer through AT&T with an iPhone plan, right? And both Verizon and Sprint permit tethering. So if you pay for unlimited data, why is it not permitted? If a customer want something, be it a good or a service, it is in a company's best interest to provide said good or service to them, even if there is an extra charge for it. All AT&T is doing is just slowing down progress, while continuing on with all of this contract nonsense, IMO.
 
I bought this app an it took iTunes 1 week to charge me. Now I have been charged. I hope I get a refund for this app or a gift card towards more apps. I have yet to have apple remove this app from my phone or laptop. I do have dial-up. This might be reason...... Go for AT&T!!!!!!!

Apple is not going to refund you or remove it. I suspect those that lost it when they updated their phones did not properly back up the phone and/or transfer their purchases back to their computer before updating.

The app still works... so why get a refund?
 
Ok, so let me get this straight. If you pay for unlimited data transfer through AT&T with an iPhone plan, right? And both Verizon and Sprint permit tethering. So if you pay for unlimited data, why is it not permitted? If a customer want something, be it a good or a service, it is in a company's best interest to provide said good or service to them, even if there is an extra charge for it. All AT&T is doing is just slowing down progress, while continuing on with all of this contract nonsense, IMO.

To "please" a customer was in a time before "Shareholder value" was created. Nowadays we should only "consume".
 
Wonder if Apple will tell ATT the phone numbers of those who bought it, so that we can get some extra attention to our usage logs (or whatever they call them)? Hmmmmm.....
 
Got it!

I love NetShare i got it the second time it appeared on the U.S. Store and i went to ATT the other day and asked about the data plan and if it was really unlimited or not and they told me that unlimited data means unlimited data so i have been using the hell out of netshare! I use it at school to bypass our blocks. The only problem is if you use it for a long amount of time your iphone 3G gets really really hot!
 
I suppose ATT is concerned about all the hi-bandwidth video content that would inevitably clog their network. Regardless, ATT needs to recognize that the iPhone itself may be a killer device but it's the applications that will truly drive the market. One way or another they need to allow tethering through the iPhone. All this secrecy and no-comment crap is going to really give other companies (even with less desireable handsets) an opening they shouldn't get and don't deserve. Very shortsighted IMO. I've been a proponent of the ATT/Apple relationship up to now. This is just stupid. Jobs needs to bludgeon some sense into their CEO's head. This could be a breaking point in this partnership. It's akin to the airlines charging for water. If I was Jobs I'd tell ATT "no way you're going to be allowed to limit our market with a policy that is so inconsistent with the competition and within your own organization".
 
Because dear comrade, since we unfortunately don't live in a socialist society, capitalism dictates that power-hungry, money-hungry, blood-sucking, life-draining, Wraith-like companies can stick it to the common man, and charge you for every little improvement of life you might enjoy.

Of course in socialist countries it is the government that behaves like that and does this to you, but unlike in capitalist countries, you can't take your business elsewhere.
..........when we ALL realize that progress for its own sake and the progress of humankind, as opposed to progress for profit is worth more, then we will have a world closer to that illustrated in Star Trek. ;)

Oh, I see you have developed your rather shallow understanding of political systems from that bad space opera (STNG or especially that space station travesty) that evolved from the more fascist/militaristic TOS.;)
 
Don't Blame AT&T

I don't know why everybody is jumping on AT&T for not allowing tethering. They do for every other device they carry. Surely they would be more than happy to sell that feature to iPhone customers too. Remember how Apple bragged about how they were setting the terms in their relationship with AT&T. Apple is the one that doesn't allow the iPhone to have a tethering plan . . . yet. I suspect Apple was already working on a full-fleged tethering app and will offer it as a feature upgrade to the iPhone in the near future.
 
I don't know why everybody is jumping on AT&T for not allowing tethering. They do for every other device they carry. Surely they would be more than happy to sell that feature to iPhone customers too. Remember how Apple bragged about how they were setting the terms in their relationship with AT&T. Apple is the one that doesn't allow the iPhone to have a tethering plan . . . yet. I suspect Apple was already working on a full-fleged tethering app and will offer it as a feature upgrade to the iPhone in the near future.
Att does offer a tethering plan for the iPhone...
That is why the app was removed.
 
Exactly. What is wrong with AT&T??? They offer tethering on their other phones. I'm sure there are many who would like to use this capability over WiFi or the docking cable, but who will NOT pay for a separate laptop expresscard and separate $50/month laptop data plan! If they made it a reasonably priced add-on, say an extra $20 a month add-on on top of the iPhone plan, they would get a lot of users!

God I hate this exclusivity nonsense! If we had a Verizon and Sprint EV-DO iPhone, no doubt the competition would drive down data prices and have them offering things like cheap tethering, etc.
 
I think Apple is going to hunt down this app and zap it.

I have backed up but i'll bet that if I tried to use it that in the middle of some download it would suddenly just disappear, which is alright ...I guess

Of course if the backup suddenly vanishes then i'll be a bit nervous

:eek:
 
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