new 12 inch rMB

[MH01]

Thanks MHO1, you understand me
Very funny but true remark : Do people on MR have real jobs? Or just hang out in Starbucks offices?

I have to ask, cause if some of these people worked in a corporate offices, they would get a rude shock in regards to security and connectivity. Issues that don't exist in a Starbucks

Actually my favourite part is when people tell me to wake up, it's 2015, and the camera on the MacBook is 480p...... Yeah 2015..... My phone is superior!

 

[AFEPPL]

I don't mind it.. I'd take the rMB over the MBA everyday of the week.
The processor is faster in real terms for most of the tests, it's got more RAM as standard, and a much better screen for next to nothing in terms of price difference.

The real question is, why would you bother with an MBA?
If you want portability and endurance you would now pick the rMB, if you want performance you would still go with the rMBP.

Choice is a wonderful thing, pick what works for you and don't feel you need to explain why to anyone, you don't.

http://www.cpu-monkey.com/en/compare_cpu-intel_core_m_5y71-453-vs-intel_core_i5_5250u-469

 

[GGJstudios]

So based on common sense I should get a MacBook pro?

From what you've posted, it sounds like the MBP would better suit your needs than the MacBook.

What I am saying , no matter what you buy from apple , you need a number of adapters to use it in an actual work environment.

No, you may require a number of adapters, but not everyone does. Work environments vary in their computing requirements.

And Apple agrees , as they have just released three adapters for the Macbook.

They make adapters for those who need them. Not everyone does.

I know , I have a work rMBP and have 4 adapters for it. Everyone with a MBA carries at least one adapter to hook up the laptop to screens

I carry a rMBP and have zero adapters that I need to carry. I'm not the only one. The point is, you keep trying to fit everyone into your limited view of what a work environment or job or computing needs are. Those are false assumptions.

I need an apple laptop. Show me one that does not require adapters, and had a retina screen. I need to be able to hook it upto a monitor at work. All the monitors are dvi or display port .

No, you prefer an Apple laptop. You don't need one, as there are other computers that would meet your needs. You have to make accommodations to meet your particular needs. That may mean you buy an adapter and leave it at the office, so you don't have to carry one. That may mean you buy a Thunderbolt display. That may mean you buy a different computer. It does not mean that the MacBook is somehow lacking just because it's not suited to your particular needs.

 

[MH01]

From what you've posted, it sounds like the MBP would better suit your needs than the MacBook.

No, you may require a number of adapters, but not everyone does. Work environments vary in their computing requirements.

They make adapters for those who need them. Not everyone does.

I carry a rMBP and have zero adapters that I need to carry. I'm not the only one. The point is, you keep trying to fit everyone into your limited view of what a work environment or job or computing needs are. Those are false assumptions.

No, you prefer an Apple laptop. You don't need one, as there are other computers that would meet your needs. You have to make accommodations to meet your particular needs. That may mean you buy an adapter and leave it at the office, so you don't have to carry one. That may mean you buy a Thunderbolt display. That may mean you buy a different computer. It does not mean that the MacBook is somehow lacking just because it's not suited to your particular needs.

I work for one of the largest media companies in the world. Hate to bust your bubble how the real world works. My company dictates my hardware, they buy it. They will also be buying the new MacBook and issuing us with adapters.

All Apple laptops follow the same formula these days, you choose how much power you want, and then you buy the adapters you require to fit into the real world corporate environment.

Clearly you have never worked for a large company.

 

[Viking2]

How are you going to get it to the projector/screen? Unles. I'm missing something here...

Yes you are sure missing something:

VGA output using USB-C VGA Multiport Adapter

Then you have three connectors:
power in
VGA
USB

Neat huh?

 

[Skylitfly]

Do people on MR have real jobs? Or just hang out in Starbucks offices?

Yes. I actually have real stuff to do and I definitely don't hang out in starbucks.

I just don't work in regular office environment where I would need these ports from the stone age.

 

[MH01]

Yes. I actually have real stuff to do and I definitely don't hang out in starbucks.

I just don't work in regular office environment where I would need these ports from the stone age.

Well some of us have to chisel away rocks on a daily basis stuck with 2014 tech....

 

[Skylitfly]

Well some of us have to chisel away rocks on a daily basis stuck with 2014 tech....

Last time I checked VGA and USB are pretty old stuff.

2014 was already a wireless year. Just like 2013 and 2012.

PS. Honestly, from 2012 to this day. I have plugged USB flash drive to my laptop once. Thats it. And even that time I think the USB wasn't absolutely 100% necessary.

Need for ports and cables will be non existent in couple of years. This is the future guys.

 

[MH01]

Last time I checked VGA and USB are pretty old stuff.

2014 was already a wireless year. Just like 2013 and 2012.

I know. That iPhone 6 of yours must feel ancient, with its USB

Don't worry you can plug it straight into a new MacBook......oww wait! U will need an adapter

 

[Skylitfly]

I know. That iPhone 6 of yours must feel ancient, with its USB

Don't worry you can plug it straight into a new MacBook......oww wait! U will need an adapter

Haha. Got me!

But honestly. I never plug my iPhone to my Mac anymore. I use Dropbox, Mail or AirDrop. Oh and there is even Handoff now since OS X Yosemite. Not to mention that calendar, noter, reminders... everything syncs wirelessly through 4G and WiFi.

Yeah I think I'm fine with the USB at the other end of my charger. I'm not going to use it to plug it in my MacBook anyways.

 

[fisherking]

and there's a $19 adapter you can use to plug in your phone (and am sure we'll see usb to usb-c adapters from 3rd party companies soon)...

 

[MH01]

Haha. Got me!

But honestly. I never plug my iPhone to my Mac anymore. I use Dropbox, Mail or AirDrop. Oh and there is even Handoff now since OS X Yosemite. Not to mention that calendar, noter, reminders... everything syncs wirelessly through 4G and WiFi.

Yeah I think I'm fine with the USB at the other end of my charger. I'm not going to use it to plug it in my MacBook anyways.

For personal use, you are right, you can accomplish a lot without wires these days.

And apple offers adapters for those that require wired, everyone is catered for

 

[GGJstudios]

I work for one of the largest media companies in the world. Hate to bust your bubble how the real world works.

No, that's only how the world you've experienced works. There's obviously a lot more business environments that you haven't been exposed to, if your view is that limited.

My company dictates my hardware, they buy it. They will also be buying the new MacBook and issuing us with adapters.

Then why complain? You're not the buyer. If you're getting something that you don't think meets your needs, that's a problem with your employer who is doing the buying and dictating what you will use. Apple has nothing to do with that.

Clearly you have never worked for a large company.

I love how so many make baseless assumptions about what others may know or what they've experienced. I've not only worked for large companies in the past, many of them are now clients of my companies.

 

[MH01]

No, that's only how the world you've experienced works. There's obviously a lot more business environments that you haven't been exposed to, if your view is that limited.

Then why complain? You're not the buyer. If you're getting something that you don't think meets your needs, that's a problem with your employer who is doing the buying and dictating what you will use. Apple has nothing to do with that.

I love how so many make baseless assumptions about what others may know or what they've experienced. I've not only worked for large companies in the past, many of them are now clients of my companies.

Says that man making assumptions himself.....! But you own companies...!!! WOW!

My last point to you, Next time you get asked to walk into a company and make a pitch/presentation, bring and adapter, you will look more professional! The agencies that come into our office, not equipped for a presentation, we view as amateurs, even if they think they are cool!

 

[magamo]

I think it is a toy, a gadget for the ladies (even surprised they don't offer a pink version).

You may have typed that with your penis on your exclusive-for-men computer. But just because Apple's new keyboard is designed to be used with fingers doesn't mean it's for females. If you're talking about rMB's lack of ports, not every male user puts his dongle into an open port.

It is just a netbook for reading emails and do some internet. Not really a notebook to produce work.

You don't say?

 

[GGJstudios]

Says that man making assumptions himself.....!

I made no assumptions.

My last point to you, Next time you get asked to walk into a company and make a pitch/presentation, bring and adapter, you will look more professional! The agencies that come into our office, not equipped for a presentation, we view as amateurs, even if they think they are cool!

Again, you make an assumption that I have the need to walk into other companies' offices to make pitches or presentations, or that I would benefit from the use of an adapter. Such is not the case.

 

[MH01]

I made no assumptions.

Again, you make an assumption that I have the need to walk into other companies' offices to make pitches or presentations, or that I would benefit from the use of an adapter. Such is not the case.

LOL!

read what you posted bud! The whole basis for our discussion is based on the assumption of what you believe is "portable computing"

You have assumed on the behalf of everyone one that the new Macbook is "portable computing" and you do not need adapters, and if you do, choose a tool more appropriate.

I concede that there are users that can go cable free, there are also users that require connectors! And both these users can use the Macbook. Its is you that is forcing your opinion that if one requires adapters, they should choose another device. Hence I tried to explain to you that modern corporate offices are not cable free.

Fact of the matter, Apple knows better than you mate, they have created the adapters

Send and e-mail to Apple and explain to them what the intended use of the Macbook is, as you have to me....... that is called an assumption btw!

 

[762999]

I think it is a toy, a gadget for the ladies (even surprised they don't offer a pink version). It is just a netbook for reading emails and do some internet. Not really a notebook to produce work. I hope they will still just change the screens on the present 11" and 13" MBA into retina versions (they already updated to broadwell) that was all I wanted. They don't have to make them thinner, nor change the keyboard and please hands off the ports just leave it as it is. If they want they can throw in the new trackpad as a bonus but even that is not a must.

it's overpriced outside the USA but it's a very capable and '2015' laptop. People should just wake up. I think they could have squeezed another USB-C port but I barely use one on my MBP as we speak. Printing, iOS sync, backup should all be done over 802.11AC. The only time I plug a cable is for charging the device or drop the pictures from my DSLR camera. The new macbook is for a generation of people that doesn't need a thousands gizmo attached to their computer.

The laptop seems very capable for most people. If you need more get an AIR or MBP.

I just sad that they don't bring the improvements to the other notebook at the same time.

 

[ApplNat]

My existing MBA 13" 2013 gives me the exact number of ports I need. I can, at the same time, and with no adapters needed, be on the go and:

- Keep the Mac plugged in to AC power
- Connect a USB device, like an external HD
- Connect an SDHD card (used by my camera and other devices)
- Connect my smartphone and charge it up from my MBA


The new Macbook only allows me to do 1 thing at a time, requires me to purchase at least 1 adapter to work with other devices I already have, and I can't charge the Mac AND work with connected devices at the same time.

Taking away all but one port was a boneheaded move, IMO.

Oh and haptic touch feedback? Hate it. Hope they made it so a user can disable it.

 

[GGJstudios]

read what you posted bud! The whole basis for our discussion is based on the assumption of what you believe is "portable computing"

False. It's based on what Apple's announcement clearly stated as the intended use for the MacBook. It has nothing whatsoever to do with my perception of portable computing.

Its is you that is forcing your opinion that if one requires adapters, they should choose another device.

False. I said, "Your choice is to buy a MacBook and buy the adapters necessary, or buy another notebook that doesn't require adapters."

You have assumed on the behalf of everyone one that the new Macbook is "portable computing" and you do not need adapters

False. That is not my assumption, but what Apple clearly stated. Phil Schiller:

So how do you connect with the world? Well, this is our vision for the future of the notebook. And the only intelligent vision of the future of the notebook is one without wires. We don’t have to plug up cables to connect to things.

He went on to mention AirPlay, AirDrop, hotspots and other wireless technologies as the alternatives to using wires and cables.

 

[AdonisSMU]

Yes you are sure missing something:

VGA output using USB-C VGA Multiport Adapter

Then you have three connectors:
power in
VGA
USB

Neat huh?

As long as I have a way to connect to a HUGE monitor I should be good for this new machine even though it's a little underpowered IMO... but I'm not gaming just using Chrome or photoshop...oh wait!

 

[cfedu]

So based on common sense I should get a MacBook pro?

What I am saying , no matter what you buy from apple , you need a number of adapters to use it in an actual work environment.

And Apple agrees , as they have just released three adapters for the Macbook.

I know , I have a work rMBP and have 4 adapters for it. Everyone with a MBA carries at least one adapter to hook up the laptop to screens.

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I need an apple laptop. Show me one that does not require adapters, and had a retina screen. I need to be able to hook it upto a monitor at work. All the monitors are dvi or display port .

Go on.....

Which ultra portable windows laptop has a full sized DVI,VGA, HDMI and DP ports.

You need a computer that can do presentations so VGA is required and you mentioned you need DP and DVI.

You can't forget about HDMI though since that is the port that I need to use and most of the other people who have moved into the 21 century.

I'm just calling Tesla and going to complain that my car can't pull my Fifth wheel, wish me luck.

 

[MH01]

False. It's based on what Apple's announcement clearly stated as the intended use for the MacBook. It has nothing whatsoever to do with my perception of portable computing.

False. I said, "Your choice is to buy a MacBook and buy the adapters necessary, or buy another notebook that doesn't require adapters."

False. That is not my assumption, but what Apple clearly stated. Phil Schiller:

He went on to mention AirPlay, AirDrop, hotspots and other wireless technologies as the alternatives to using wires and cables.

And you are the voice of what apple clearly intended....wow! Clearly your interpretation of the keynote is the only one!

Careful, that what you accuse others of, look in the mirror bud!

I'll just buy my adapter and do some real work

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Which ultra portable windows laptop has a full sized DVI,VGA, HDMI and DP ports.

You need a computer that can do presentations so VGA is required and you mentioned you need DP and DVI.

You can't forget about HDMI though since that is the port that I need to use and most of the other people who have moved into the 21 century.

I'm just calling Tesla and going to complain that my car can't pull my Fifth wheel, wish me luck.

I fully accept be it a rMBP or a new Macbook, or any other laptop I get from Apple I will need certain adapters. I just find it silly someone telling me to get another apple laptop, when that other product also needs adapters! And that the new Macbook is intended to be wireless! Rubbish! Its a perfectly fine laptop for business use!

I'm not the one is fantasy world that today's current world is wireless..... definitely not if you have an office 9-5 job!

 

[GGJstudios]

And you are the voice of what apple clearly intended....wow! Clearly your interpretation of the keynote is the only one! !

It's not my voice, but the voice of Phil Schiller. It's not my interpretation, but a direct quote.

I'll just buy my adapter and do some real work

Good for you. Others will do real work without adapters.

The bottom line is that the MacBook is obviously designed with wireless operation in mind, but Apple makes adapters for those that want the MacBook, but have needs that they can't or won't satisfy with wireless. If anyone wants the MacBook but wants to plug things into it, they'll need adapters. If they want a notebook to plug things into without needing adapters, the MacBook isn't the ideal choice for them. Rather than complain about the lack of ports on the MacBook, a more sensible approach is to find something that has the ports needed.

 

[nope7308]

I don't typically bitch about new product releases -- growing pains are inevitable.

That said, the introductory price for the 12" rMB is downright offensive. 1550 CAD for what is essentially a glorified iPad. No thank you.