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In EU, yours starting at 2999€... Best of luck, Apple, moving this one. Where I live M1 Pro 16" MBP starts at 2589 to 2790, depending on where you get it, the price hike is even more substantial versus M2 Macbook Air when you consider the starting price of MBP!
Also, it means not much of hope to have decent discounts on M1 Pro/Max spec'd Macbook Pro models, not at least from premium resellers with good reputation, not in my part of EU anyway 😳
These are professional machines, and if you truly need one like these in your office, you probably have no problem paying for it, cuz it's gonna save you and your colleagues time, hence money.
But the way you put it, sounds much like you'd just want it as a leisure device. So now my question is: why not just get a Mac mini instead? Much cheaper and will do everything that doesn't require Pro usage ( and sometimes it even does that).
 
Its not only regular people who count their money and calculate ROI value of their purchases. 500 euros more(MSRP) for something that doesnt do much more when you can still get 16" M1 Pro for less than 2400€ isnt nothing to sneeze at.

To rephrase you about M1 Mini - if professionals need all that power, they should go for Mac Studio that is much better value than inflated-priced 16" M2 Pro, I mean, true pros would, right?
 
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Seriously! Like is there something wrong with my 14” M1, it has far worse battery life than my M1 air did, i almost use it exclusively in low power mode on battery :-(

Or is Apple just completely full of **** on this subject??? I get like old school 2 hrs of use at a cafe if I’m not on low power mode…
Yea my big question would be what are they doing when they get 22h?
 
Apple's new 16-inch MacBook Pro model features up to 22 hours of battery life – the longest battery life ever offered in a Mac.

Both of the new 14- and 16-inch MacBook Pro models offer one additional hour of battery life over their predecessors, rising from 17 to 18 hours on the 14-inch model and 21 to 22 hours on the 16-inch model. For comparison, both the M1 and M2 MacBook Air offer 18 hours of battery life, while the 13-inch MacBook Pro offers 20 hours of battery life.

This is all 'video playback' which puts a minuscule workload on the CPU and GPUs cores. The M2 Pro/Max have 2 more E cores to run lightweight workloads. The bulk of the media decoding work to show is video is all done by the media decoders (fixed function logic) ; not the primary cores. In short, for the most part the CPU and GPU cores are completely asleep for this benchmark.

If look at the specs for "lightweight web browser", hours disappear from these absolute 'high water' marks. It will work for several hours, but these suggestions of 22-18 hours is mostly just hype on contrived benchmarks. It is a defacto industry standard benchmark. But contrived none-the-less. It is just that all the system vendors and many tech journalists are all in on the gimmick. Unless buying a $2-4K laptop primarily just to use as a 'TV'.


P.S. over a decade or more ago a higher fraction of media decoding was done using the CPU+GPU cores. That is often an anachronism now. To 'cores active' test these M2 series, they would need to do something like AV1 (which Apple still seems to be ignoring with fixed function solutions. And Apple won't do the test because most other 2023 solutions from other folks do have AV1 support in fixed function logic. )
 
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Obviously they didn't increase the battery capacity... They were already at the legal limit for airplanes on the 16 inch one...
That is, sir/maam a VERY good point. I’ve often wondered how we might get more capacity, and I thought maybe we could get essentially TWO batteries, one 85, one 50 for a combined 135 (space and weight assuming),, with some either linear connection or swap over. Is that just a ME/EE/Design pipe dream?
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And this is why Apple Silicon is still peerless, despite strides from competitors. Not to mention you actually get most of the chip's performance on battery. Looking forward to seeing what a 15" with the standard M2 chip can do!
 
Keep in mind the battery life that actually matters: wireless web, that's 15 hours in the new 16" M2 Pro MBP. No one in their right mind spends 22 hours in the Apple TV app

Great point. Clearly a cherry picked benchmark. For the price of this laptop one could get a nice OLED TV and Apple TV for watching TV all day.
 
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I had a similar experience but then I looked at just how many background apps and tasks I was running on the M1Pro... (clue - it was a lot).
That is true - exempt my MBA had almost the exact same config of apps and it seemed to hold on better.

I’m not bothered, my 14” MBP is still the best Mac I have ever owned, and I have owned many different models and configs. Very thankful for it!
 
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