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New 2014 Mac Mini Has Soldered RAM, Not User Replaceable

This is the one update i was keenly expecting from Apple and in typical Apple fashion it messed up the update with its own twisted logic and profit margins.

Bye bye Mac Mini!
 
krravi said:
This is the one update i was keenly expecting from Apple and in typical Apple fashion it messed up the update with its own twisted logic and profit margins.

Bye bye Mac Mini!
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After seeing the 2014 21.5" iMac update, we should have guessed that the new mini would be a turd!
 
399 quid for the basic "entry level" model? Dream on Mapple - folks can get a very decent pc for that, and with Windows 10 looking to be around twenty quid next year... you're really pushing it.

I'm really enjoying my newly rekindled relationship with Microsoft and Nokia products. Apple, not only are you bland and boring, you're exploiting people. Time for a new world for me.
 
Starting bids on my 2011 mac mini now.
2.7 Ghz intel i7
Radeon HD 6630m
4gb Ram (FULLY REPLACABLE)
Only $900 (seriously about what I paid)

Not serious, will never sell!

But seriously why? I wonder if the dual hard drive option is still available, I installed an SSD into that mac mini with little expertise, just the right tools and guidance. Everything was impressively engineered into a beautifully tight package yet entirely repairable (I was very impressed). It just doesn't make sense why backward steps are being taken.

I sense this is a certain trend Apple intends to follow since it now has confidence that users enjoy OS X and IOS too much to fight it. Sad future, but not unrealistic. :(
 
As I understood in the latest presentation they listened to the feedback of customers so why on earth would they in many ways ruin a product for a few $?
Im a PC guy and the long awaited new mac mini was supposed to lure me the rest of the way to applesphere! Im sure im going to go there anyway but like with other products I will just have to bend over and take what ever!
To own apple products is a love/hate relationship but i do not get why it has to be this way.. I just want the love...not the take it in the a.. Though love:-/ Some tech company (google) please save me. I liked the fact that apple was trying to be funny about the "Us and them" problem the brand is struggling with... The secrecy and silence that reaches unfortunatly way beyond the development all the way into even entire countrys meeting a wall of silence.
Im getting fisted while apple laugh all the way to the bank.
"Apple we are supposed to be friends so why do not listen to me... I would pay the 100$ extra for the mac mini to not having the feeling of a stealing friend when i pay the overprice for a bit of extra memmory:-/
 
Upgraded my friend's 2012 mini to fusion and he put 16GB ran in himself... So easy (for a mac) but so needlessly fiddly compared to a pc... Here's the whole process, documented for him:

Upgrading a 2012 Mac Mini to a fusion drive


Glad I don't do these for a job :D
 
Eh, building up the desktops in my sig was fun, but I knew that would be the last time I cracked open a computer case. Reminded me of my PC days in the '90s.

Things like the Mac Mini and ATV just seem like a nuisance to Apple. The Mac Pro is still made as a matter of pride that Apple is still cutting edge.

I guess my future computing will all be done on a smartphone or tablet whether I like it or not.
 
Digital Skunk said:
This update just made the MacMini a no go. It's not about using 16GBs of RAM now, it's about using it in the future. When 16GB dimms become an option users with soldered RAM will be stuck.

Add to this the fact that many apps are becoming platform agnostic on all OS (desktop and mobile) platforms and there's even less of a reason to get a MacMini.

Hell I'd get a ChromeTop before a Mini if I just needed access to web based services or where building a schools computer lab.
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Apple's hope is that when 16GB becomes commonplace, those who bought 8GB will upgrade their machines. People already toss perfectly working iPhones to upgrade to the latest. Apple makes no money if people wait years to run their devices into the ground before upgrading. This way, they can exert greater control over upgrade cycles by software obsolescence.
 
Silver78 said:
As I understood in the latest presentation they listened to the feedback of customers so why on earth would they in many ways ruin a product for a few $?
Im a PC guy and the long awaited new mac mini was supposed to lure me the rest of the way to applesphere! Im sure im going to go there anyway but like with other products I will just have to bend over and take what ever!
To own apple products is a love/hate relationship but i do not get why it has to be this way.. I just want the love...not the take it in the a.. Though love:-/ Some tech company (google) please save me. I liked the fact that apple was trying to be funny about the "Us and them" problem the brand is struggling with... The secrecy and silence that reaches unfortunatly way beyond the development all the way into even entire countrys meeting a wall of silence.
Im getting fisted while apple laugh all the way to the bank.
"Apple we are supposed to be friends so why do not listen to me... I would pay the 100$ extra for the mac mini to not having the feeling of a stealing friend when i pay the overprice for a bit of extra memmory:-/
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Apple ain't your friend mate. Stick with Microsoft - thankfully they're learning good lessons and they give mega money to very worthy causes :D Bill Gates is a lovely man.
 
Larry-K said:
I guess it'd be okay for mail, but it looks to me like a $500 Brick.
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It's more like a head less MacBook Air, save for the disk, I did get the impression that the PCIe disk was the default option from the key note though. And no, you shouldn't have any problem running Office on it, seriously.
 
CrazyNurse said:
Eh, building up the desktops in my sig was fun, but I knew that would be the last time I cracked open a computer case. Reminded me of my PC days in the '90s.

Things like the Mac Mini and ATV just seem like a nuisance to Apple. The Mac Pro is still made as a matter of pride that Apple is still cutting edge.
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Cutting edge? The whole hardware side is just a very very over priced mini pc... They carve aluminium well and offer superb support... AND THAT'S IT.

Cutting edge? Bleeding edge? Bleeding you dry!
 
subsonix said:
It's more like a head less MacBook Air, save for the disk, I did get the impression that the PCIe disk was the default option from the key note though. And no, you shouldn't have any problem running Office on it, seriously.
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To be fair: the Air has fast SSD's.. the Mini gets some leftover 5400rpm HDD's that forgot to turn their calendars beyond 2006...
 
mtneer said:
To be fair: the Air has fast SSD's.. the Mini gets some leftover 5400rpm HDD's that forgot to turn their calendars beyond 2006...
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That's exactly what I said, so I think that was fair. The PCIe disk is presumably identical to the Air, however it's an upgrade option, not default.
 
Please someone make an OS competitor that is not as insanely ****** as windows so we can get some impetus to not piss off people who care about their hardware.

And to be fair I think the new mac pro is very user upgradable. So for just 4k I can get a real mac computer.
 
While I'm not surprised, it doesn't stop me from wanting an updated Mac Mini to replace my late 2009 model running Yosemite. Haven't upgraded the RAM in 5 years so I'm used to dealing with what I have chosen from the beginning.
 
Renzatic said:
That'd be a decent excuse if Apple were going for a super thin laptop, but here it's just money gouging. You have to pay them $300 for an $80 upgrade of ram.

Intel NUCs are a helluva lot smaller than the Mini, sport roughly the same hardware (the Mini does have a better integrated GPU), yet have replaceable HDDs and ram. The Mini, on the other hand, is exactly the same size as it was before, and was well known for being easy to upgrade.

There's no excuse for it, other than, quite literally, Apple doesn't want you to.
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Exactly why I chose the nuc with i7.would have bought the mini door sure if it were not for the unfriendly hd/ram integration . The NUC is build for easy access while the mini is just silly . I saw a video for how to change the HD,it is not that hard but why make it so hard when Intel obviously manage to do it so well in nuc and kept the size down. Sometimes I just don't get apple.
 
Ok guys I'm like every one else here and was waiting for an awesome upgrade and got let down just like everybody as well. But here is the question I can go pick up a Model: MD388LL/A tomorrow for 789.99 at bb or pay 679.00 for mid grade new Mac mini what is the better option as far as everyone is concerned? I need some pros and cons between the two and I'm aware of the soldered memory and this will be used exclusively as a media center.
 
WilliamLondon said:
Not aware of any capitalist company that doesn't (especially the publicly traded ones), though strangely it appears to surprise people, especially on this forum (which used to have a much higher average IQ before the trolls descended<ha!>), that Apple actually likes the profit.
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There's a balance that must be reached between price, quality, and features or the consumers will go to a competing product. I was an Amiga user who went to Mac in 2001 and now I'm done with Apple and will migrate to a fantastically-specced out home-build PC for $1,500. I will no longer be a slave to Apple's BS and underperforming or horrifically overpriced hardware.
 
Seems like apple are doing half measures at the moment with there hardware as they are already thinking about the next release rather than going all out with what they can do now and then just minor tweaks for the next models ... Mac mini, iPhone, etc etc
 
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