It's been that for almost 10 years and you've always been able to upgrade the memory until now.
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New 2014 Mac Mini Has Soldered RAM, Not User Replaceable
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It's been that for almost 10 years and you've always been able to upgrade the memory until now.
I don't think that apple will directly response to this thread. It is only 0,000x percent of apple consumer who will post here and others mostly don't do diy.
So for the positive I think that apple will silently or again during an ipad event in october 2015 pack in new chips and if power consumption is low enough, another quad core (the lowest to differentiate from iMac and mac pro.
RAM will be soldered as well as the PCIe sdd. So all we can do is adding a thunderbolt stuff or USB 3.1 stuff to increase storage within reasonable costs.
The release now was just an answer on "It has been long" and with the new update the price will rise again 100$. They will claim - only 100$ more and you get 6x the gpu and new connecters and a quadcore. And they won't tell you that the dvi cable is again not in the package. Which is good because lots of people already use HDMI to HDMI for their external monitor. All others can use 3rd party products.
So for the positive I think that apple will silently or again during an ipad event in october 2015 pack in new chips and if power consumption is low enough, another quad core (the lowest to differentiate from iMac and mac pro.
- And they will give you an external retina display (4k).
- Thunderbolt 3 with PCI Express 3.0 on a skylake chip which is due 2015
- You can add 2 4k displays so they will earn money by letting you decide -> mac pro has enough gpu power to drive 2 displays. mac mini could do, but due to the onboard gpu it won't be a good experience.
RAM will be soldered as well as the PCIe sdd. So all we can do is adding a thunderbolt stuff or USB 3.1 stuff to increase storage within reasonable costs.
The release now was just an answer on "It has been long" and with the new update the price will rise again 100$. They will claim - only 100$ more and you get 6x the gpu and new connecters and a quadcore. And they won't tell you that the dvi cable is again not in the package. Which is good because lots of people already use HDMI to HDMI for their external monitor. All others can use 3rd party products.
While I don't like the soldered RAM, who does, it's a hundred less and that's OK for a medium user like me. But if this Mac mini is actually slower than the 2012 Mac mini version and Haswell chip can't make up for it, then I will pass and get a PC for cheap desktop needs.
Aw, does the retina iMac come without the screen and is it user upgradable ?
I definitely missed that one.
You'd be happy dumping a $1200 mac mini or $2500 laptop if the memory chip fails when there was a choice to put memory modules in?
First thing i saw, ain't got time to investigate you, mister fast stock 5400rpm hdd
If you need more info about my CPUs just pm me
I can see a big difference between mine (2008 MBP 8GB Ram vs 2012 rMBP 16 GB Ram)
This is very odd as I was in the Raleigh, NC Apple Store on Friday and inquired with one of the "Geniuses" whether the Mac Mini would have user upgradable RAM and he assured me it would. Perhaps it is just the 1.4 GHz Mac Mini that has soldered RAM like the low end iMac?
I'll wait for iFixIt's tear down for confirmation. If it is true perhaps I'll just upgrade my older iMac with an SSD and double the memory. Apple will loose a sale. It's a shame too as I was really excited about the new Mac Mini.
I'll wait for iFixIt's tear down for confirmation. If it is true perhaps I'll just upgrade my older iMac with an SSD and double the memory. Apple will loose a sale. It's a shame too as I was really excited about the new Mac Mini.
Ditto for me.
I laugh at the "This move was made because consumers are not tech-savvy" angle most apple fanbois are pushing. I AM the tech support/tech-savvy person for a large family. Let me take inventory - 3 iMacs, 2 Mac Minis, 6 Macbook pros(3 of those are only phone support and 2 are rMPBs). The latest purchase was by my mother of a Mac Mini(quad-core to future proof as she liked to photo/video edit) just last month.
I have upgraded ALL but those 3 on phone support, and I talked a capable person through upgrading RAM in the the non-rMBP over the phone - with the help of a video.
But now, I can no longer recommend the Mac lineup to those with the iMacs and minis. in fact, my mother opted to go with a mini instead of a iMac because she finally realized how stupid it was to just throw away a perfectly good monitor.
The new Apple does not support my family ecosystem and their/our needs. 2 of the three iMacs are due for a replacement soon, as they are maxed out RAM wise(4-gigs), and the third is my mom's old iMac that I got when she upgraded to the 2012-mini. I replaced the storage, and it is currently being used by my son for minecraft/school.
TL;DNR -
I will steer the extended family, where I am apple tech support, away from Apple when their machines come up for replacement. Since apple now requires you to replace your machines every couple of years now, it's better to go < 1/2 the price and follow their new model in the windows world.
So damn sad. I started on an Apple ][+ in 1979(I'm young at heart), and this is the 1st time since the 90s where I am looking to move away from Apple, and I'm telling people to do the same.
No it's not. It's a hundred MORE for the model comparable to the previous lowest spec mini, and they shoved in one below that and made that a hundred less.
Everyone defending the soldered RAM forgets that the 27" iMac and Mac Pro don't have soldered RAM so Apple does recognize the value of being able to upgrade RAM. They simply don't want the vast majority of users to do it. Thats what pisses me off.
Historically, Apple garnered much of its following from education and from the non-conforming/techie-types. I doubt if these current hardware changes will have much negative impact on the education market; indeed they might view this as a rather "healthy" upgrade. If, however, many of the responses from this forum correlate with the latter market, then Apple has alienated that latter population and may suffer the consequences of constructing a box that grossly limits experimentation and longevity. Success is measured through sales and in a limited manner through Apple's forums and noted third-party evaluators; in that context, we do have a say. The question remains is if anyone at the corporate level is any longer listening to its antecedents, those comprising the non-conforming/techie-types.
People that use "you can get a Windows for that." have never sounded smart, or made any sense...and that hasn't changed.
The average user doesn't know or care about timing belts or spark plugs. That's why they pay a dealer or shop to take care of them for them. They never open the hood themselves other than maybe to add some windshield fluid and a very small percentage of them will check their own oil level between changes. For most, the hood could be welded shut and it'd make no difference to them. Just as the average Mac mini owner will never open up their machine even if the RAM was upgradable.
im not alone. I've read several others in pretty much the exact same situation.
So while the fanbois say this move is because of non tech savvy users, but I find that the non tech savvy generally have a tech savvy person they confer with prior to purchasing. And now they will hear that macs are 3-year machines, not 6-year machines - so why spent 2-3 times more for a Mac now? The resale is going to plummet as well on macs. So I hope the fanboi's realize this as well. Look at the quad core 2012 minis now - the price is NOT going up for their lackluster iGPU.
I don't know either way, I guess we'll need to wait for an official-ish iFixIt teardown pictures or otherwise; in any case, it's very odd there's no subtle warning about soldered RAM for any of the models in the memory configuration section like there is for the MBA, 13-inch rMBP and 21.5-inch iMacs - such as
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However, if you go to the tech spec page for the mini, under memory it does not say User Replaceable like it used to....and like it still does for the iMac and Mac Pro.
Does everyone make all of their choices strictly based on cost? If they did, there would be no such thing as retail desktop computers; everyone would build their own. But, in fact, most people (even on the PC side) don't do that.
The real flaw in your argument lies in the last three words. Apple is banking on the Mini being unique enough that people will say "Hmm, I'd rather have one of those than an Intel NUC barebones machine." Time will tell if they were right.
Like I said before, I'm 50/50 on the soldered RAM. The lack of a quad core CPU is not as vexing.
Wrong.
There is no such requirement in American corporate law. Else Tim Cook would not have explained why Apple would not support a requirement that the company effectively abandon many of its green initiatives.