Having read this, I would love to be that person who deals with your rant on the phone or in store when the CPU, RAM, SSD or other traditionally user upgradeable part dies the day after your warranty expires. If I knew it was you I’d tell you to ******* Off just to make a point.
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New 2014 Mac Mini Has Soldered RAM, Not User Replaceable
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Having read this, I would love to be that person who deals with your rant on the phone or in store when the CPU, RAM, SSD or other traditionally user upgradeable part dies the day after your warranty expires. If I knew it was you I’d tell you to ******* Off just to make a point.
So not wanting to pay 3x market rate for RAM makes me a nerd?
Rather a nerd than a fool.
How much of that RAM usage is cache? Your system should use as much memory as it has, but that doesn't mean it needs all of that memory to run the OS and the apps you mentioned.
How much RAM you need assume you do a lot of multi-tasking with multiple programs running at the same time. This is apparently something you don't ever do which explains why everyone's experience is different.
Plus, you just proved one of my points without realizing it... You do no upgrades, so I assume that means your only software imprint in RAM and file size, etc is minimal because its the same as before, hence you wouldn't noticed the increased resources needed with each operating system upgrade or the updated software for it or its new features.
And finally, you're not talking about a Mac Mini. I never meant to say that my Mac Pro is substantially slower with Yosemite except in the ridiculously long install and boot times. My warning is simply that if Apple goes down the Performa route, they're on the wrong track. The software footprint of tomorrow's software will soon make a Mac Mini a dead end.
And to add insult to injury, it's not even a fantastic value. If everyone was in love with this new Mac Mini, trust me, there's wouldn't be over 1000 posts here!
What is your definition of upgrade??? Because at this point it looks to me like you and a bunch of others around here sound like you don't know the meaning of this word. Let me clear it for you: 2014 mini has HALF the cpu performance of the 2012 mini. If you think that is NORMAL to spend 2000EU(almost 2600USD) to get a machine that gives user access to RAM, then you are clearly the perfect Apple customer. I am not in this category though. It's not about pro users or consumer, it's about the fact that for 1000EU i want to be able to change my own freaking RAM, HDD and CPU. Or at least BTO them at decent prices. And i can also have my own opinion against a greedy company that asks 200EU(about 260USD) for 8Gb of RAM. They want to solder RAM? Be my guest, but offer me the possibility to upgrade at THE MARKET PRICES. Maybe you don't know, but i can purchase 16 GB of 1600Mhz RAM for about 30% less money then Apple try to charge me for 8GB. This is wrong no matter how much fanatic you are. I don't now about you, but i use, own and purchase Apple products since the days of System 7. I have seen Apple going the dodo way before doing the EXACT same s****t they are doing now. They just offer less and less for more and more money. So please, let us folks who want SOMETHING for our money to demand it, it's our right. If you think what Apple does now is perfect, go ahead and purchase. Me and quite a few others are in a different position though. We protest because we hope Apple will hear us and change the way they are manifest next to the customers. So far my decision is to move my business to Linux/Windows. It's not possible to take away from me all my options, even in MacPro(can't upgrade/replace video cards and HDD in that either) and hope for my money. No sir, this is wrong business model and since i don't fit anymore i moved my business towards other producers who cater to my needs.
I don't think it much matters anymore how much / many of the internals are soldered GIVEN the amount of glue Apple now uses to hold it all together - screw nails are passé at Apple.
Who wants to go through all that glue to get inside?
Who wants to go through all that glue to get inside?
Inexpensive? The price of the the new mid range mini with 8gb RAM and upgraded with the 256GB SSD option is not terribly far from what I spend on my gaming rig 2 1/2 years ago and that old system will run circles around the new mini. Yes, the new mini is a fine machine and I'm considering one because it's small, quiet and energy effecient unlike my PC which idles at 140w and can't sleep because of overclocking. But I'd not call it inexpensive. Only the base model is reasonable, but a 5400rpm HD these days is just...ugh. I moved to SSD 2 1/2 years ago. Once you've done that, there's no going back.
if you believe that everyone buying mac mini is low margin customer
many of us have more apple stuff than all those ipad air/iphone 6 plus owners...if you believe that everyone buying mac mini is low margin customer
True, and many of us are (or at least have been) evangelists.
There really is no such thing as "American corporate law". There is the separate and distinct corporate law of 50 states. All of them (I'm not quite sure about Louisiana) impose a fiduciary responsibility requirement on management. Management is generally given enormous discretion (especially in Delaware, where Apple is domiciled) about how to determine what will maximize profitability (that's management's job) but it is not entirely clear what the result would have been if shareholders had sued Apple's management over some of the green initiatives. One thing is certain: Apple's lawyers would be preparing arguments about how their green initiatives maximize long-term profitability, minimize risk, etc.
I guess that's why the first thing I did when I got my last mini was buy 16 GB of RAM, right? You're just an Apple troll. You don't like Apple hardware.
I'm a woman. I've done it. Opened up the back of my macbook pro and added 16 GM of RAM and a 500 GB SSD. Ok I lied. My boyfriend did it. But he's not a "dweeb" either.
Actually I'd argue that most true Apple lovers will want to upgrade their computers. I know many Apple lovers who say carry around a 6 year old Macbook and say things like "this little guy has been with me since ..." They put stickers on their Macbooks to mark the milestones. They love their computers and don't want to get rid of them. It's the casual Apple user who views the computer as a disposable two-year device and says "oh. My HD is dead. Peace out."
I love all the armchair lawyers here.
Please go find the part of American law (whether federal or in Delaware) that REQUIRES a corporation to maximize profit. We'll wait . . .
While corporate officers and management DO have a fiduciary duty to shareholders (duh), that duty is not restricted to providing maximal return to shareholders. The corporation is free to act in whatever capacity it wants, as defined by its bylaws.
If Icahn, et al, sued Apple over the various green initiatives they would lose due (generally) to the business judgment rule, amongst others.
See post 1176. How many women want to buy a whole new PC when a stick of RAM fails? I bet the number is substantially less than those that have ever upgraded their PC. Companies like Apple love people like you, I hope you enjoy being gouged.
That just means that OS X makes use of as much memory as it can. It does not mean that your workload would not have run in 4GB. Quite the contrary, it would have run in 2GB, though you would probably notice the performance difference between running your workload in 2GB versus running it in 16GB -- especially if you have a HDD rather than an SSD.
I upgraded a 2010 15" MBP with an SSD from 4GB to 8GB and I could not notice any difference. I'm sure I could have measured a difference for some workloads (a very large compile would have been a good test). The only thing I actually measured was reboot times and they stayed the same within one second. I'm not even sure there was a fractional second of improvement there. I only ran three tests in each configuration and they were not blind tests, so the results were essentially the same within any reasonable confidence interval.
It really is.
They all think they should be able to edit Spielberg movies on it just because.
Buy a Mac Pro. You can add extra RAM to it. 99% of the population will never crack open their computer to put a new HDD, RAM etc. They will buy and plug wires into ports.