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New 256GB Mac Mini and 512GB MacBook Pro Have Slower SSD Speeds Than Previous Models
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Apple dirty tricks limiting both RAM to 32GB and SSD speed on the new Mac Mini so it doesn't compete with the Mac Studio.
So this makes the base 8Gb RAM even more of an issue
Apple just can't stop cheaping out their hardware, this is borderline sociopathic
Apple just can't stop cheaping out their hardware, this is borderline sociopathic
The price also went in reverse by $100, despite the inflation. I think that's a good trade off.
You should be comparing the M1 to the M2 Pro Mac mini since they are the same price.
We also need KEY people in quality control - NOT just in hardware (those peeps are doing well for the most part). Yet in software!!!!
Example:
WHOM thought up, and approved, that the UNDO function in iOS needed to use a 4 Finger Swipe and NOT think of what the iPhone 12/13 mini or the SE 2/3 would behave? I have smaller hands than a typical man and its quite difficult to use the UNDO 4 finger wipe successfully on each attempt! VERY frustrating and shows NOBODY thought of this for ALL their products in production and in the sales channel.
WHOM needs to have a 45 foot pole up their booteh for lagging 5yrs now for
a) no ability to DELETE ALL messages on Apple Watch,
b) no ability to selection specific messages on Apple Watch for deletion or mark as READ/UNREAD?
c) STILL not properly synching SMS and iMessages correctly to the Apple Watch (non-LTE/5G models, I'm sure it doesn't work with those models either)?
d) Watch app in iOS has the option called 'Mirror my iPhone' in Settings > Messages. Mirror means show exactly whats on one side as the other.
Whom needs to have the door opened on them while taking a #1 in the stall for thinking its OK to have 2 swipes in iOS
Whom needs to understand that their HomePod, iPad, and iPhone users may NOT have a Mac at home to be a HUB for their connected Home devices?! I mean what happens when I toss out my ATV4 or that it's no longer supported?! How am I to get my Philips lights to automate or feeder for my kittens to work on schedule?
Also ... we need the engineers to drive the new products!
Like how is it a RedMagic 8 Pro gaming phone ships with WiFi 7 chip with OS support in the future (a company KNOWN to never launch security updates, or software updates past 1 year) offer this on a less than $900 US phone but the M2/M2 Pro/M2 Max Mac Mini and MBPs don't have WiFI 7?
Why is it that single NAND storage products affect the SPEED?! Like this is just penny pinching makes no damn sense or someone in marketing fell asleep and forgot to specify this on the product page, either way its asinine!
Man, people need to get a grip. The "slower" 256gig Mac Mini is still really fast. Just not as fast as the Macs with larger drives. Intel Macs would kill to be so slow.
He’s done whoring himself out to Apple….he’s all about that Google life now…..unless he is part of the layoffs…..we’ll know when the rebuttal shows up.
Hopefully all this sUpPlY cHaIn crap ends soon. That’s probably why we are getting less for more.
Might want to look up use of who and whom. (He's a quick tip: He/Who, Him/Whom)
I couldn't disagree more with all the whining about Tim Cook. He's done a great job and stuff is as good or better than when Steve was running the place. Anything else is just remembering a past that didn't exist.
Also note that Homepods (mini and version 2) can function as HomeKit Hubs, and support both thread and will support Matter very soon if not already.
I couldn't disagree more with all the whining about Tim Cook. He's done a great job and stuff is as good or better than when Steve was running the place. Anything else is just remembering a past that didn't exist.
Also note that Homepods (mini and version 2) can function as HomeKit Hubs, and support both thread and will support Matter very soon if not already.
The fact that there are people defending such a disgusting inexcusable action like cheaping out on SSDs this way (keep in mind the prices of SSDs to manufacture actually PLUMMUTTED and Apple is the richest company on the planet) just boggles my mind. I can't say that I miss the good old days when Steve Jobs was alive because I was only a child, but there was this interview that someone posted earlier in this thread where Steve explicitly stated, "we don't ship junk." Fast forward to today, we have the standard iPhone 14s, the iPhone SE, iOS 16, the iPad 10, and the SSD thing with all the base configurations of the M2 Macs. Steve Jobs must be rolling in his grave. The fact that they are doing this, combined with the amount they charge for memory upgrades, and the fact that it's non-upgradable, is sickening
2018 Intel Write: 1627
2018 Intel Read: 2485
2020 M1 Write: 2733
2020 M1 Read: 2854
2023 M2 Write: 1431
2023 M2 Read: 1482
What were you saying about Intel Mac drives being slower?
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So, that means you don't visit this channel at all? https://www.youtube.com/@macrumors
Here you go. This was just a couple of pages up: https://forums.macrumors.com/thread...ds-than-previous-models.2378187/post-31907694
My only issue is on the MacBook Pro since its a pro computer. The others seem like a non issue to me.
True. I doubt I would notice it unless I was to compare it with something faster.But in real world usage, it won't make too much difference.. especially for people who are in market for low end desktop. I wouldn't mind paying $100 less as a trade off. That said, I'm excited to get my mini pro today.
A couple of weeks ago I noticed that my M2 MacBook Air with 24GB of RAM was swapping a bit which was odd because memory pressure was well within the normal range. I only noticed because I looked at iStat menus, otherwise, I didn't feel any slowdowns.
I do have the 2TB SSD, so not sure if that means anything here. The MacBook was 'up' for 18 days and of course, most of that RAM was used by Chrome. I've been checking regularly and haven't swapped since, but it does happen with plenty of RAM with normal usage.
The correct way to market it would NOT to use the word "slower".
"Our larger capacity storage are paired with faster speeds" to help you fill them up even faster.
(Do you see what I did with "paired" there?!?)
Maybe don't buy a machine before the reviews are out and you can save time and gas.
while I'm with you on this SSD shifty move by Apple ... I have to ask.
As someone who was a child when Jobs was alive, as you've stated, how on Earth can you be using the phrase 'Steve Jobs must be rolling in his grave'? lol.
You'd have to be older in age to understand the market place in his second stint as CEO to really get what he was about, why he fought so hard, made the decisions he did, why he was tough to work under, or for a select few a pleasure to work with vs watching WWDCs or a few interviews. You'd have to know Apple a bit more intimately, no?
Thank you. I'll leave the mistake for learning in context.
Apple should just be upfront about this. The base model is more than fast enough for many, even with the slower SSD. But still… its these kinds of ”omissions“ that erode trust in Apple.
Let's be honest, Apple are just cheating their customers by not starting with 1GB as base storage, considering NAND prices.
Literally forced upgrade to 1TB SSD for the minority nerd population. Brings back sweet memories of when Apple pulled 128GB memory from the iPhone inventory to force upgrade to 256GB from 64GB.
Classy.
Classy.