That really sucks, Shame on you Apple
Seriously? It's not enough that they add it as an option?
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Seriously? It's not enough that they add it as an option?
The iMac is marketed as an AIO. It's not AYCDIY (All You Can Do It Yourself). I'm surprised that they managed to squeeze another drive in there. Much like their notebooks, every bit of space is used. There's not much wiggle room.
Also remember that Apple makes a nice little profit selling 256GB SSDs for $600. Highway robbery yes, but it is obviously working for them.
Umm... if Apple can find space in the NEW iMacs to ship with a 2nd drive in there, I think that space should still exist even if the new 27" iMac comes with only 1 drive.
Yes, because it's not like 99.9 percent of iMac customers are going to be perfectly happy with a single drive bay and would never use the mounting bracket anyway.
It is not like it's a user-serviceable part. You'll probably be able to purchase the mounting bracket from Apple Service Providers if you really want it.
Yeah..but why put the parts in when they aren't needed? Costs money. Takes time to install them. Then you have people that crack it open and install their own and find out the cable is bad..so there are more warranty claims. It's about money...simple.
This isn't Apple. This is everyone. When I order servers if I don't order an option the manufacturer doesn't go ahead and include the SAS RAID cage just because...or the cables to hook it up.
I'm sure there will be brackets and cables on ebay soon. Lets just hope that the logic board must have the connecter soldered to it.
Oh boo hoo. GM didn't install an ECU that can run the V8 as well if I decide to put it in later instead of the V6 in my Pontiac G8( I don't own a G8, just using it as an example).
Apple isn't evil for not putting in the hardware to install a SSD as well if you didn't order it.
Apple isn't evil for not putting in the hardware to install a SSD as well if you didn't order it.
There are several Apple parts dealers out there. You can build a new iMac piece by piece if you want. The parts will be available soon...and the Apple repair parts are surprisingly cheap.
Yes, and many of us with iMac's have done just that (myself included). However it would have been nice to do without the external at all and have both drives internally without having to pay $600 for the option.
You are not special. Apple don't need to design things just for you
So many annoying people. It is a damn tight fit in there. Why would someone put the necessary cables and mountings in there when next to no one except the people who can order the parts in anyway can add the hard drive in themselves.
If they put the gear in nerds would be pulling them apart and complaining to apple when they break it. If they leave it out people take it to the service centre and get someone who knows what they are doing to put it in. I've seen one of these things pulled apart and there is no way in hell I would be pulling it apart. Taking the screen off with suction caps in a lint free environment and then removing the LCD panel, screw that. If you want to stuff around with ur computer get a mac pro
So many annoying people. It is a damn tight fit in there. Why would someone put the necessary cables and mountings in there when next to no one except the people who can order the parts in anyway can add the hard drive in themselves.
If they put the gear in nerds would be pulling them apart and complaining to apple when they break it. If they leave it out people take it to the service centre and get someone who knows what they are doing to put it in. I've seen one of these things pulled apart and there is no way in hell I would be pulling it apart. Taking the screen off with suction caps in a lint free environment and then removing the LCD panel, screw that. If you want to stuff around with ur computer get a mac pro
They do it in the MacPros, it would be nice if they did it in the iMacs too. For the record I installed an SSD in my iMac and taking it apart is really not a big deal; its quite straight forward.
And it costs a good $1500 more for similar horsepower.
But, yes, the point is quite valid: Apple sees the iMac as a computer you will purchase and use as-is until you sell it to buy a newer model 3-4 years later.
I imagine their arguments against putting the brackets in place were:
1. Additional parts in the machine which aren't secured to an SSD drive mean likely failures during shipping and use. Why put an appendix in just to have it burst?
2. Having those parts in place could be seen as tacit encouragement for home users to open up the machine and mess with things. They would much rather have a clear "this is what we allow you to do without voiding warranty" line in the sand so they couldn't possibly be held liable for do-it-yourselfer damage while installing an SSD.
The latter would be why they also are not going to offer such a kit for sale, although you can bet that they do ship them to authorized repair shops for the inevitable post-sale upgrade.
The problem I have is some of their upgrade prices. I've bought an entire 2TB 7200RPM drive from Newegg for the price of Apple's upgrade from 1TB to 2TB. The $750 price for a 256GB SSD might be a good price, but I can't find info on the brand, and the OWC drive is faster for less.
Are some of you guys listening to yourselves here? Honestly. I just love people saying "Shame on you Apple for not designing your new iMac so I don't have to buy your SSD and I can buy my own and install one myself". The only people that are gonna get inside of the new iMac and rip the guts out to install a hard drive are geeks that are willing to take a chance at voiding their warranty. At that point just buy a PC.
Has anyone seen the new overpriced Sony Vaio Z? Yeah, that one with the proprietary SSD's that can't be swapped out for a 3rd party drive and that same one that you can't choose a standard HDD for because Sony won't give you that option? Apple's not the only one so stop making this personal.
Has anyone seen the new overpriced Sony Vaio Z? Yeah, that one with the proprietary SSD's that can't be swapped out for a 3rd party drive and that same one that you can't choose a standard HDD for because Sony won't give you that option? Apple's not the only one so stop making this personal.
Not true, actually the Mac Pro is also not easily modified, at least compared to most true PRO machines. Take a look at the range of graphics cards offered by Apple, ATI, and Nvidia for instance. Basically Apple charges you a fortune for those PCI Express slots, then you realize there is almost nothing to put in them when you get the damn machine home! LOL
I wouldn't be surprised if Steve Jobs got the cables and mounting hardware patented just so Other World Computing couldn't sell upgrades. Steve Jobs would be exactly that kind of *****.
Are some of you guys listening to yourselves here? Honestly. I just love people saying "Shame on you Apple for not designing your new iMac so I don't have to buy your SSD and I can buy my own and install one myself". The only people that are gonna get inside of the new iMac and rip the guts out to install a hard drive are geeks that are willing to take a chance at voiding their warranty. At that point just buy a PC.
Has anyone seen the new overpriced Sony Vaio Z? Yeah, that one with the proprietary SSD's that can't be swapped out for a 3rd party drive and that same one that you can't choose a standard HDD for because Sony won't give you that option? Apple's not the only one so stop making this personal.
Maybe you should consider what you're saying while you're at it, make sure you've considered all the angles here. You're talking about people that want MacOS, how is buying a Windows machine really going to be a solution to that?
Also, please, tell me who the h*ll wants a Sony computer? Why compare Apple against a brand of computer even most PC users don't want, probably at any price? I think Apple is different from Sony in that most people seem to want a Mac, just maybe not the price tag that goes with it.
What if I don't want to run Windows and don't want to deal with the PITA that is a hackintosh? I just want to put my 80GB SSD in my iMac and not have to take the existing one out and go external. No need for a $600 256GB one.
With the VISTA nightmare, I think lots of PC users have come to grips with the "Mac Tax" and realize it's worth the extra money for a variety of reasons.
What still ticks off former PC users though is all the strings Apple attaches to their products along with that "Mac Tax." You would think it would be the other way around, but it's not. Even Mac Pro owners are often forced to "hack" their Macs to make them on the level of a top-end PC hardware wise.
The irony is that this is in complete contrast to Apple's roots and its first big selling computer, the Apple ][ which was the polar opposite of the iMac.
Well now, then you don't buy an iMac because you don't have that option now do you?
My point to both of you was that if you need to tinker around so badly with your computer then don't buy an iMac. I used Sony as an example because every time Apple does something that appears to be out of the norm this forum gets on the defense as if Apple is doing something to them and Apple is the only company that would do this.
I understand now why neither one of you understood what I was trying to say.
C'mon, Apple shouldn't have to make it easy for you to install 3rd party hardware in their machines. If you want a box you can put your junk in, get a pc.
I don't want a pc, I want a mac. I just want a mac that I can do something with if I want.
You can do it if you want.
But they're making is unnecessarily difficult. They make them to hold two HD's, but they're leaving out the stuff if you don't order it from them.
Then buy two HD's from apple.
But Apple charges way too much for the SSD's.
Then don't buy it. No one is forcing you to get a mac.
I understand that.. I just... I just wish I had a choice.
Leave. Go away. Troll. Get an android if you want choice.
I really didn't want it to be such a big deal. But you know what? Screw you Apple. And screw you fanboy.
ummm.. overreact much?
I don't want a pc, I want a mac. I just want a mac that I can do something with if I want.
You can do it if you want.
But they're making is unnecessarily difficult. They make them to hold two HD's, but they're leaving out the stuff if you don't order it from them.
Then buy two HD's from apple.
But Apple charges way too much for the SSD's.
Then don't buy it. No one is forcing you to get a mac.
I understand that.. I just... I just wish I had a choice.
Leave. Go away. Troll. Get an android if you want choice.
I really didn't want it to be such a big deal. But you know what? Screw you Apple. And screw you fanboy.
ummm.. overreact much?