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New 27-Inch iMac Supports Up to 64GB of RAM, OWC Offering Upgrade Kits

xmichaelp said:
You can get a 500GB PCI SSD at 2GB/s for 100 dollars? Wow, show me where please.
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The iMacs do not come with PCI SSD that runs at 2GB/s, please stop embarrassing yourself.

And how do you justify the ridiculous drop in SSD size for the 1TB fusion drive? too expensive for apple to maintain the 128GB SSD that came with previous models? Please. just admit that apple is cutting corners.
 
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Glassed Silver said:
Do you mean that machine that Apple advertised so heavily during their keynote back then and ridiculed the naysayers by saying "can't innovate anymore, my ass"?
Do you mean the machine that hasn't seen any updates for another 2 years again?

Their pace of market share improvements in the PC business aren't really deserved these days.
They treat their computers way too much as orphans... or their customers, however you want to look at it.

Glassed Silver:mac
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When Intel gets around to making faster components, then I imagine Apple will make that an option. Is there are particular configuration that you can't get? What exactly should they update?
 
citysnaps said:
I hope you are saying that with eyes squinted, a little sneer, and slowly moving your head back and forth so people here know you are a really serious person, one who should be paid attention to. That said, you might be shocked learning that everybody's needs are not the same as yours. For the majority of users that have modest needs, Apple has a base model available. For those that need more performance, there's an option available as well.



Excellent - DON'T DO IT! That's why Lenovo, Dell, Sanyo, Acer, CyberPower, etc all have machines with your name on it. Go for it!
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The apple apologist is strong with this one. Let me guess, you also believe a 16GB iPhone 6S is justifiable right?
 
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NomadicTy said:
I like the speed of SSD, but I'd like to be able to store more. So, is it possible to make a home brewed Fusion drive with these new iMacs? I am thinking getting the highest built in SSD, then install a huge HD. Is this possible?
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I doubt there's enough room to install anything extra inside these new iMacs. Plus... I'm not sure how you could marry an SSD and a hard drive to mimic what a Fusion drive does. Those "hybrid drives" have some sort of trickery inside that I'm not sure you could homebrew yourself.

Your best bet would be to get the iMac with a built-in SSD... and then use external, but permanently connected, hard drives for storage.

That way you'll get the maximum speed of the SSD for MacOS... and you can have as much storage as you want for all your files. You can get a lot of storage for cheap since storage hard drives don't need to be fast.

That's what PC users tend to do... put the OS on an SSD and have cheaper traditional hard drives for mass storage.

You could go crazy and get external Thunderbolt drives to store your files... but that's rather unnecessary unless you're editing video or something.

If you just need to store general files... an external regular hard drive will do. USB 3 is fast enough for files.

But, of course, get the SSD for the OS :)
 
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Michael Scrip said:
I doubt there's enough room to install anything extra inside these new iMacs. Plus... I'm not sure how you could marry an SSD and a hard drive to mimic what a Fusion drive does. Those "hybrid drives" have some sort of trickery inside that I'm not sure you could homebrew yourself.
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Do you know HOW easy it would have been to Google that? VERY :)

I upgraded my friend's 2012 Mac Mini from an HDD to a "Fusion" drive - it's a matter of simply attaching another drive to the Mac, mounting it in an adaptor and then running a few bash commands to tell OS X that it's a "fused" volume. There's no "trickery" about this, electronics isn't smoke and fairy dust, it's just a very clever software system inside Mac OS X.

Here, have a read:

https://www.ifixit.com/Story/12535/Adding_SSD_and_new_big_HD_as_Fusion_Drive_to_iMac

If you prefer visual learning, like I do:

 
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JXShine said:
If that was your attempt at defending apple's idiotic and greedy decision to put in a 5400rpm drive as the default configuration on a 2015 computer, then you've done a pretty poor job.

And no, I'm not going to pay Apple an extra $300 on top of an expensively priced computer just to get a 500GB SSD when I get buy a similar SSD for $99.

Every Mac user I know, yes average users, has been whining to me about how slow their Mac is lately; they only stop complaining once I manually upgrade their 5400rpm garbage to a ssd
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Then buy the lowest model and upgrade the SSD yourself. Heck, make a business out of it.
 
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After this awful new iMacs announcement I'm not even surprised to find out RAM being soldered in 21.5 ones.
Apple burried Mac Minis first, now its iMac's turn.
 
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kaellar said:
After this awful new iMacs announcement I'm not even surprised to find out RAM being soldered in 21.5 ones.
Apple burried Mac Minis first, now its iMac's turn.
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I find "awful" to be a rather odd statement to make over an UPGRADED model of computer. Soldered on is not great, but what IS, is choice - you can choose not to buy one, and that's a good thing :)
 
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solamar said:
Totally agree. Wont happen until Thunderbolt 3 is released. This time next year
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By then Apple will probably solder the RAM in lol,

Love how Apple always gives people a important reason to buy the NEXT one.

This year its the lack of USB-C and Thunderbolt 3, for those that want to use the Mac as a Target Disk mode, now Thunderbolt 3 will give them just that reason alone next year.

Right now Soldering the RAM is giving Apple a good profit chunk in each unit. They can control the price the customer pays for the RAM by BTO the unit and customer really has no choice but to pay the price as they cannot make up their mind later without spending yet another chunk of change the for sake of MORE RAM.

Its like a trap, I love Apple lol and I am Anti-PC but I Also don't upgrade my Mac's.

Got a 2013 rMBP 15 maxed out and will be sticking to it for few more years.
 
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GoodWheaties said:
Wow OWC seems to like their RAM as well as Apple. $1200 for 64GB?
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No doubt, what the hell? I'll take the or installed Apple RAM FOR $600 vs the OWC RAM for $600.

The 32gigs in my late 2012 cost $200 from crucial and I think OWC wanted $275 for theirs. $325 price increase?
 
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citysnaps said:
Yes, and for those who need better performance, Apple offers a handful of options that can be easily ordered. For those who have modest needs, and there are a LOT of people out there in that category, Apple offers the base machine with a 5400 rpm drive.
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It's not about the user's needs in this case. It's about the overall user experience. Booting up the computer, waking from sleep, launching apps. The basic things people do dozens of times every day are dramatically slower on a spinning drive. It doesn't matter if you're a professional video editor or a casual web browser. That's just a bad user experience.
 
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kaellar said:
After this awful new iMacs announcement I'm not even surprised to find out RAM being soldered in 21.5 ones.
Apple burried Mac Minis first, now its iMac's turn.
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The RAM in all but the 27" has been soldered in since 2012 hasn't it?
 
uid15 said:
I find "awful" to be a rather odd statement to make over an UPGRADED model of computer. Soldered on is not great, but what IS, is choice - you can choose not to buy one, and that's a good thing :)
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It's not upgraded in many aspects, that's the key. Fusion Drive capacity is reduced for 1TB option, GPU is now integrated only. That's NOT an upgrade, Apple states it is though.
 
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JXShine said:
The apple apologist is strong with this one. Let me guess, you also believe a 16GB iPhone 6S is justifiable right?
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lol, :p
sadly the recent apple update of the imacs were a complete embarrassment.

JXShine said:
The iMacs do not come with PCI SSD that runs at 2GB/s, please stop embarrassing yourself.

And how do you justify the ridiculous drop in SSD size for the 1TB fusion drive? too expensive for apple to maintain the 128GB SSD that came with previous models? Please. just admit that apple is cutting corners.
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It is actually true:

All solid-state storage in the new iMacs uses the NVMExpress interface that first showed up in the Retina MacBook earlier this year, and like the 13-inch Retina MacBook Pro they all have four PCIe 2.0 lanes' worth of bandwidth to work with, giving them data transfer speeds of up to 2GB per second.
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http://arstechnica.com/apple/2015/10/apple-goes-all-retina-for-its-27-inch-skylake-imac-refresh/

jkichline said:
When Intel gets around to making faster components, then I imagine Apple will make that an option. Is there are particular configuration that you can't get? What exactly should they update?
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Not really, alpine ridge is avaible now, as other OEM like dell are offering it, and the lack of usb c is again nothing to do with intel's slow manufacturing, rather the omission seems centred on apple's etic focus to squeezing every last $$ from their customers, at the cost of using substandard hardware and in some circumstances, dated tech, all whilst maintaining the usual stratospherically inflated apple taxes.
 
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I barely fill up 8GB of RAM let alone 64GB. What is the rest of the memory used for? Having 500 tabs of YouTube or something? Having 50 games open? Or rendering 100 videos of 4K at the same time?
 
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