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Which AirPods are those?
AirPods Pro.
Which AirPods Pro?
Second Generation.
Which Second Generation?
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I have the AirPods Pro (2nd generation) (1st generation) but considering getting the AirPods Pro (2nd generation) (2nd generation) so I can be done with Lightning cables for good.
 
AirPods are one case where wired charging isn't superior to wireless charging. As the AirPods 3 and AirPods Pro 2 cases even have MagSafe magnets to make it all more manageable, I feel no need to get the USB-C cases anytime soon. I can't remember when I charged any of my AirPods (besides the AirPods Max) using a cable.

The AirPods Max is the odd one out. It will be the only reason I must keep a USB-C to Lightning cable around.
 
I just replaced my AirPods Pro yesterday. The store employee mentioned the new USB-C version. I asked if there was anything different besides USB-C charging he said no. So I got lightning ones.
 
Yeah, I actually used Compact Cassettes with Dolby B and then Dolby C as the 1980s hit. And most still sounded worse than modern digital. I loved LPs, but as the oil crisis went on, they got thinner and thinner and the the vinyl got worse, so you would get warps and crackles. I remember CDs being a major improvement just for the lack of noise, but I do recall some complaints that the early CDs were mastered like they still used the RIAA Curve. We used to pay $25 for CDs when LPs were only $10, so someone must have thought they sounded better. LP prices now are breathtaking.

We have the capability to make LPs now that are better than we ever could, and there are definitely those willing to pay. But few actually care to go to that level of care/effort in production. The double edged sword of the format’s popularity, for a lifelong record lover, is that we’re living in an age of $30+ single LPs produced to cheapest degree possible as if they are a novelty product. The quality of what some pressing plants are churning out today makes the 70’s oil crisis vinyl look and sound like a godsend…
 
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Speak for yourself. My parents and grandparents had 2 ****** stereo speakers hooked up to old stereo. I have a Dolby atmos 5.1.2 home theater system that sounds incredible🤷🏻‍♂️
Sure, but I think you’re missing the point. Those 2 speakers, bad as they were, were miles better than the average portable Bluetooth speaker people tend to use today. And the average person does not have a full 5.1.2 atmos setup. Even the average home theater enthusiast doesn’t have a full 5.1.2 atmos setup, they are content with virtual surround through a soundbar…
 
Lossless = wire. Sony`s codec comes near the data rates. As long BT doesn't send uncompressed files thru there is no way to solve that. And i really don't wanna have that Sender in my head...
 
This is horse ****. Audio quality has definitely gotten better over the last 50 years. Shoot, mastering and the production pipeline is crystal clear nowadays and has noticeably more punch than even 10 years ago. People can’t tell the difference between high bitrate lossy (256mbps AAC or mp3) and lossless. You just plain can’t and it’s been proven over and over. This is a complete non-issue.

Sure you can. If I tell you exactly what to listen for you will hear it and you will never go back to compressed crap ever again. Btw AAC and MP3 is the same crap as 256kbps AAC is equal to 320kbps MP3 but it's still compressed audio with artifacts which you can hear if you have proper setup.
 
We have the capability to make LPs now that are better than we ever could, and there are definitely those willing to pay. But few actually care to go to that level of care/effort in production. The double edged sword of the format’s popularity, for a lifelong record lover, is that we’re living in an age of $30+ single LPs produced to cheapest degree possible as if they are a novelty product. The quality of what some pressing plants are churning out today makes the 70’s oil crisis vinyl look and sound like a godsend…
Most of the few LPs I’ve picked in the last few years seem pretty well pressed and a lot heavier weight than the 1980s period vinyl I remember. Of course, my ears (and my obsessiveness) aren’t the same as they were in the good old days, so I doubt I can really compare that accurately. I do have some multi-channel SACDs and DVD-Audio discs that I would probably rank as some of my favourite releases over the years.
 
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Echoing what some other commenters said, it's definitely an odd marketing decision to not have announced this in a minute or two and instead bury it in the spec sheet.
 
Back in the day, when I was younger and didn’t quite know how not to spend money, I had a Nakamichi BX-300. If any cassette deck out there could sound like a CD, that was the one. That thing sounded magical.
That actually sounds like you knew how to spend money very well, as I lusted over those Nakamichi decks! I grew up in a very small city and recall as a teen wandering into a small electronics shop that sold repair parts, only to discover the guy was the local Nakamichi dealer, but with it practically hidden away at the back of the store. It was way too upscale for the neighbourhood, and I probably worried him as I stared at the different models, wishing I had the cash! Now I do that at the Apple Store! 😀
 
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Hold up now - us current owners don't get the lossless feature?
It's a VisionPro feature because the headphones are like 2" from the headset. Do you want to hold your phone 2" from your ears? Most people cant tell the difference between high quality and lossless on good speakers, let alone the tiny speakers in the AirPodPros.

The new APPs get lossless because they have the new H2 chip, while the previous ones have the H1 chip.
 
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Sure, but I think you’re missing the point. Those 2 speakers, bad as they were, were miles better than the average portable Bluetooth speaker people tend to use today. And the average person does not have a full 5.1.2 atmos setup. Even the average home theater enthusiast doesn’t have a full 5.1.2 atmos setup, they are content with virtual surround through a soundbar…
But soundbars and basic cheapo Walmart box home theater systems still sound better than most old speakers people had unless they were rich back then.
 
People bitch and complain because Apple doesn't iterate and then bitch and complain that they've iterated past what their prior purchase featured. Nowhere in the Apple AirPods Pro 2 sales pitch did it say you'd get all possible features forever. Consider Apple actually generous with rolling out new features to existing products (like all those new features in the new APP2 firmware w/ iOS 17).
 
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People bitch and complain because Apple doesn't iterate and then bitch and complain that they've iterated past what their prior purchase featured. Nowhere in the Apple AirPods Pro 2 sales pitch did it say you'd get all possible features forever. Consider Apple actually generous with rolling out new features to existing products (like all those new features in the new APP2 firmware w/ iOS 17).
All second gens have the same H2 chip which Apple says is the reason why it gets lossless with VP. This is an artificial software restriction, not a hardware issue.
 
All second gens have the same H2 chip which Apple says is the reason why it gets lossless with VP. This is an artificial software restriction, not a hardware issue.
And you know that because you're a hardware technician/engineer in their R&D department? People always make **** like this up without knowing if there was a slight H2 chip revision - motherboard manufacturers do it all the time. Considering they also changed the IP rating, my guess is they aren't exactly the same revision as before.
 
I don't even really care, its just a matter of principle as I have APP2's.
Looks like you will get a feature you don’t plan on using.

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People bitch and complain because Apple doesn't iterate and then bitch and complain that they've iterated past what their prior purchase featured. Nowhere in the Apple AirPods Pro 2 sales pitch did it say you'd get all possible features forever. Consider Apple actually generous with rolling out new features to existing products (like all those new features in the new APP2 firmware w/ iOS 17).
And people like to complain about rumours, apparently thinking these are facts. There are months left for this to be debunked. Maybe it is true, but the “Apple Certified USB-C” cable wasn’t, and they still complained. This site gets more hits the angrier readers get, so a grain of salt is required.
 
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