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New Analyst Mockup and Sales Estimates for Apple's Tablet

wallaby said:
It's stories like this that make me wonder about coming to MR in the first place. I just wish people would PLEASE stop tossing about rumors of a Mac Tablet around like it's going to help make it come true. Read my words: Apple are NOT going to make a tablet PC. Why would they sell something that would cannibalize their lucrative iPhone/iPod Touch market? The idea that they would is just pure, desperate idiocy.
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Hey, don't be a jerk.
Especially don't be a jerk and make conjectures that you can't prove, like "Apple are NOT going to make a tablet PC." Especially when it should be "Apple is".
If you are going to call other people stupid, at least try to seem smarter than they are. And since you just said their ideas are "just pure, desperate idiocy", your ideas are somehow even lower than idiocy. That is quite an accomplishment.
This is a thread on a fansite, don't be judging. Let people say what they want and accept it as their opinion.
And people are not tossing around rumors, most of us a talking about what features we would like to see and what features are more likely than others.
Though there is some disagreement, all of us are willing to be wrong.
You, however, seem to think that your opinion is the only opinion that could possibly be right.
BUT, you might be right.
Unfortunately, you think Apple will never release a tablet pc.
As long as Apple releases something with a touchscreen that is larger than 3.5" within our lifetime, we are right.
If we die before we see a touchscreen Apple product, then you win. Enjoy your victory.
I understand if you want to revise your opinion.
 
I still would go ga ga over a $799 - 10" MacBook Air !!!
 
Who are you kidding? They would charge at least $999 for a 10" MBA.. And it would have a gigantic bezel to fit that full size keyboard they love.
 
I can see it

This would be a great device for me if it could do two things.

1)Hook up to an external display/mouse/keyboard.

2) have an application that would transform it into a soft keyboard for my imac.

think of the hundreds of differnt applications that could have.
you could have a final cut specific keyboard, you could have a photoshop keyboard, world of warcraft keyboard. with keystrokes and buttons all for that one specific program. not only would this be a great on the GO ebook reader or web device, but it could be an amazing companion to your imac or macpro. or even laptops.
 
JohnnyLemonhead said:
FAIL. If it doesn't have a physical keyboard, then it isn't a netbook. For the 1001st time, people want a low-priced Apple netook. The people have made it clear what they want.
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Apple doesn't care what people want. They care about what people will pay for even with Apple-sized profit margins. That's not anything like a netbook. Ausetec doesn't generate anywhere near at much profit as Apple.

They don't want an overgrown iPod Touch that, among other things, has to be carried in a case 24/7 because of the exposed screen.
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That's why Apple has only sold over 20 million iPod Touches, even at a healthy profitable price as well.
 
dicklacara said:
What everyone is missing is that: the really, really exciting "must have" product, won't be an Apple Tablet!

It will be a new line of clothing-- featuring 6" x 9" pockets!
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Slightly over half the adult buying population doesn't need bigger pockets. They carry purses. Often ones plenty big enough for something 2X or 3X larger than an iPod Touch.
 
I had to register just for this. Am I the first one to post this here?

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Come on

Stop complaining about how bad this or that is when it's complete speculation!!!

It's not going to look like a giant Touch, that style just doesn't work at a big size. It'll probably have the MBP type of case, and I'd assume 3rd partiers would make a kind of clip on cover, and some leather book-type covers.

I'm very interested in this. I want a "netbook" by apple that isn't overpriced. This could be it.
 
I for one see no use at all in a 7-10" touchscreen device with full OSX... If I need to do some work, I'll use an iMac or 13" Macbook if not at home/office. On the other hand, I use the Ipod Touch almost exclusively at home and inside, and my #1 problem with it would be the small screen.

To me, what makes sense is:
- a "read only" device you carry around the house or on vacation
- which you use for media viewing/listening, e-book reading, web browsing, photo viewing and maybe editing, and viewing synced documents from your desktop/laptop (doc, xls, pdf etc)
- iPhone OS, which is easy to use compared to normal OS X (which would be a pain to use on such touchscreen device, too much effort to do little stuff)
- a multi-window iPhone OSX like the once depicted on the mockup would enable easy dashboard-style arranging of standard iPhone apps (and touch or multitouch looks useful here, just imagine how you'd move a window with one or two fingers), while developers would also be able to add "full screen" capability to their existing apps (or make special versions for this larger screen)

3G and carrier contracts... no thank you.
 
Doctor Q said:
Now we know with absolute certainty what the Apple Tablet looks like, what it will do, what it will cost, and even sales figures and profit margins.

Why don't we have the part number, a training video, hard facts about its market penetration, whines about small cracks in the case, a copy of "Apple Tablet: The Missing Manual", and the obligatory video of someone smashing one while other people wait in line to get one?
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Sometimes it's so hard to please you. :p

ROTFMLOL. What you said is so true.

mrr said:
I still would go ga ga over a $799 - 10" MacBook Air !!!
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I would venture to say that it will be more like a 10 inch MBA than a 10 inch MB/MBP.

We know that Apple has purchased 10.4 inch screens. The 64 dollar question will be what will they use them for. A netbook type device is rather obvious. But a larger touch type device is also a viable alternative.

At this juncture, I would lean more towards a larger touch type device, or tablet as some say.
 
Dtderry said:
That is the beauty of Snow Leopard, it is already touch compatible. Look at all the new features it is adding, the new features would work perfectly on a touchscreen.
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The question then would be, what about all the existing features of Snow Leopard that are optimized for mouse input?
 
Minor iPhone OS X revamp needed for larger screen

Dtderry said:
That is the beauty of Snow Leopard, it is already touch compatible. Look at all the new features it is adding, the new features would work perfectly on a touchscreen. The touchscreen is simply a new input. There is no need for a radical difference in the code of the OS for it to work. Whereas a version of iPhone OS for a 10" screen would need some serious revamping and testing.
Logically, Apple can't release something THAT radical without intensive testing from their developer's program.
But, since you are just as likely to be correct as I am, I am prepared to eat my words once the tablet is released and admit I was wrong.
Though, it would be so much cooler if it ran OSX. =]
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Please understand that iPhone OS X is Mac OS X ported to the iPhone. (Remember that Leopard was delayed so its developers could work on the iPhone).

Because of this, iPhone OS X should be able handle different screen sizes as well as Mac OS X. The code snippet below shows how easy (and similar) it is to get the screen size on a Mac and on an iPhone. To write code that is independent of screen size, the good developer will determine the device's screen size and adjust his program accordingly.

Code: 
// get Mac Screen Size
contentRect=[[NSScreen mainScreen] frame];

// get iPhone Screen Size
contentRect=[[UIScreen mainScreen] bounds];


Other than touch, the major differences in the screen interface is the Mac OS X supports:

-- multiple screens
-- multiple resolution and color depth per screen
-- multiple windows
-- windows are moveable, resizable and overlapping

While these capabilities are not currently needed (in iPhone OS X) they could be implemented for larger screens.

Some top developers have expressed the opinion that the OS X port to the iPhone gave Apple the opportunity re-implement some of the frameworks, paraphrasing: "The right way-- the way they should have done it to start!"

There are signs that some things developed for iPhone OS X are being ported back to Mac OS X. Maybe the two will converge, at some point, into a single OS X for all devices ARM, Intel and whatever.

I suspect that Apple will lean towards using the iPhone OS X for the tablet, at least in the beginning.

Others have mentioned that this [tablet] could change the way we interface things, by weaning us from keyboards and mice (technology from the 19th and 20th centuries, respectively).

Paraphrasing a prior post: If "Content is King", then it is the responsibility of the device to "Step aside, and let us at it!".
 
dylangio said:
This would be a great device for me if it could do two things.

1)Hook up to an external display/mouse/keyboard.

2) have an application that would transform it into a soft keyboard for my imac.

think of the hundreds of differnt applications that could have.
you could have a final cut specific keyboard, you could have a photoshop keyboard, world of warcraft keyboard. with keystrokes and buttons all for that one specific program. not only would this be a great on the GO ebook reader or web device, but it could be an amazing companion to your imac or macpro. or even laptops.
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I like your ideas, especially a soft kb.


Since we're speculating...

Say the tablet device is very: small, light weight, inexpensive and the display takes up the entire surface with the smallest frame possible.

You could easily mount several of these on a wall (Velcro) or place them on a table. They could be used, together, as an ad hoc "video wall", "Light Table"... even an Apple version of the "Big-Ass Table".

They could be used individually, to monitor multiple security cameras, electronic guages, stock market investments, or as multiple, individual, controls for say a recording studio.
 
I remember early this spring there was a report by someone who was close to or was internal AT&T. This person said that Apple was going to make a device that would incorporate all of AT&T's lines of business(DSL, Home Phone, Mobile Phone, and Cable TV) and that it would be much like the Verizon Hub. It could have a front facing camera for iChat and would work as a media Hub for the soon to be Apple Home Entertainment hardware. allow ATT to create an App for the :apple:TV, maybe create an update which brings safari to the :apple:TV and then we Have all of Apples products working together to create a Apple Home! I think it's possible that this could be one of the killer features for the rumored Tablet.

Dont bash me, I'm just imagining! Please share your thoughts. I think Macrumors posted the story about said internal employee, or acquaintance of said employee.
 
wallaby said:
It's stories like this that make me wonder about coming to MR in the first place. I just wish people would PLEASE stop tossing about rumors of a Mac Tablet around like it's going to help make it come true. Read my words: Apple are NOT going to make a tablet PC. Why would they sell something that would cannibalize their lucrative iPhone/iPod Touch market? The idea that they would is just pure, desperate idiocy.
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I bet you were one of the same people that said they were NOT going to make a phone that would cannibalize their iPod market. :rolleyes:

you are simply wrong here, my friend. The rumors are piling up and the product makes sense. Apple will make the table relevant - like it did the music player and smartphone.
 
Augmented Reality?

Anyone here a fan of the new augmented reality apps? Imagine how nice those would look on a 10" screen. Pure awesomeness. All it would need is a iPhone style camera on the back (something Apple could easily swing). An iSight for video chatting is a great idea, I would love to see it!

A soft keyboard for different applications sounds more like a third party hack than something Apple would release. Though, I can see how that would work. Plus, it could be wireless and sync your documents at the same time. That would be a very cool feature and I can imagine hardcore developers and such paying hard money for that. Then again, maybe that functionality could be an application

kdarling-
I suppose you are right, I don't really know British grammar though.
But you get the benefit of the doubt.

dicklacara-
A multiple window iPhone OS would be pretty sharp. I can see Apple eventually making iPhone OS and OSX the same OS. It would have to be an awesome OS though. I think Apple would be up to the challenge.
 
Dtderry said:
Anyone here a fan of the new augmented reality apps? Imagine how nice those would look on a 10" screen. Pure awesomeness. All it would need is a iPhone style camera on the back (something Apple could easily swing). An iSight for video chatting is a great idea, I would love to see it!

A soft keyboard for different applications sounds more like a third party hack than something Apple would release. Though, I can see how that would work. Plus, it could be wireless and sync your documents at the same time. That would be a very cool feature and I can imagine hardcore developers and such paying hard money for that. Then again, maybe that functionality could be an application

kdarling-
I suppose you are right, I don't really know British grammar though.
But you get the benefit of the doubt.

dicklacara-
A multiple window iPhone OS would be pretty sharp. I can see Apple eventually making iPhone OS and OSX the same OS. It would have to be an awesome OS though. I think Apple would be up to the challenge.
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Yes! I believe that AR was one of the primary reasons for the compass being added to the iPhone (along with GPS driving instructions). I assume that an Apple tablet will have all the iPhone hardware, plus. So AR, would be a natural for it.

You are right that custom keyboards will, likely, be apps, rather than Apple-supplied. Things like, stenography, audio equalizers, musical key/fret boards, etc.

Then there is this:

http://www.engadget.com/2006/04/26/apple-patent-embeds-thousands-of-cameras-among-lcd-pixels/

An Apple patent to embed thousands of pixel-size cameras into an LCD screen. Beyond, normal camera functions it could be used for:

-- barcode scans / price tag scans
-- hand printing & handwriting recognition
-- facial, fingerprint and handprint recognition
-- document scan & OCR
-- automatic zoom

The device could be set to not "unlock" unless it recognized the owner's handprint, the device is reinitialized from the owner's business or personal registered account, or the device is taken to an Apple store.

Dick
 
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