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To the people complaining about "artificial limitations"-

Back in the 90's when I got my first gaming console, it didnt come included with future firmware updates.

My old nokia brick did not receive software improvements either.

Apple does a good job maintaining products "up to date".
 
Pentax already did that

Nothing new really.
Pentax did that in their new prosumer zoom MX-1 camera announced in January 2013. Apple is merely adding same feature it into the iPhone now.

Thank you Pentax. Thank you Apple.
 
Is there something preventing Apple from putting a timer on the camera app? Camera plus has it, but no HDR.

Just the new, clunky iOS 7 camera GUI and the sleek but non-expandable older camera GUI. It needs a real layout refresh if it's going to have more options.

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I trust their designers exponentially more than those working for the myriad of other "iPhone killer/iPhone toppler" OEMs - mistakes or not, they're worlds ahead.

Exponentially?
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Guys, quit using this word incorrectly :p
But I get what you mean and agree.

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I'll buy a beer for the first person to release a Staring Contest app.

Once the iOS 7 plugin (or whatever it's called) comes out for Xcode, I'm doing it.
 
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Nothing new really.
Pentax did that in their new prosumer zoom MX-1 camera announced in January 2013. Apple is merely adding same feature it into the iPhone now.

Thank you Pentax. Thank you Apple.

Nikon and other point-and-shoot makers had it for a while. The iPhone is squeezing point-and-shoots out of existence.

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To the people complaining about "artificial limitations"-

Back in the 90's when I got my first gaming console, it didnt come included with future firmware updates.

My old nokia brick did not receive software improvements either.

Apple does a good job maintaining products "up to date".

Yeah they do, but they don't provide very good excuses. Sure I understand that Apple isn't really obligated to give my iPhone 4 free turn-by-turn navigation and Siri support when I install iOS 6 on it, but they say that it's because the iPhone 4 can't handle it. No, it's because I didn't pay for it. I'm not mad or anything, but that's the real reason.
 
Isn't this feature related to face detection rather than face recognition? Two different technologies?
 
all I hear is camera stuff, it better not be the main feature of the 5S :mad:

It might be. The S line usually has hardware improvements to the current model. So a faster processor, better camera, improved wifi and network are what apple will show off. Remember, this update is targeting iPhone 4S users and not directly iPhone 5 users since many of us are under contract anyway. There sill is time for them to add a new software feature of course.
 
To get back on topic, obviously Apple isn't breaking any new grounds with the addition of this smile and blink-detection API. They're not the first, and for all we know they might not even have the best implementation.

But they are. The feature isn't groundbreaking. The fact that it is available as an API to any application without any effort for the programmer is. That's exactly what makes the difference. Anyone can add it to their iOS or MacOS X apps. Without it being available as an API, only companies employing someone who is highly versed in the art of image processing can do it. Just like any programmer can create a web browser for iOS or MacOS X with very little effort, or any programmer can easily add maps to their iOS or MacOS X application.
 
Sounds like typical Apple fashion here-taking an existing technology but delivering it in such a way that it appears new, seamless, and more polished than what competitors are doing. Nonetheless a minor but still cool feature to look forward to.

Where did they said that? They didn't even talked about this feature (or at least gave it any kind of emphasis), so why do you say that!?
This only came to attention because a developer saw it in the APIs, not because of Apple promoting it.

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API's the word! (or acronym :p)

Xcode and iPhone makes it easier by far. Sure, Android may have the functionality, but is that across Android or just with Samsung's closed API? Do I know what hardware my app I am writing will be run on, or do I have to buy EVERY SINGLE Android device in production, and test it on ALL of them?

I'll take Apple, thanks. :)

Me too.
And to be honest, I really admire Android developers for their patience in having to deal with so many OS versions on so many devices and screen sizes. And most of the time, they can't use the latest APIs because a lot of device makers unfortunately don't support or don't care to support a newer Android version.
And I'm not being cynical or ironic.
 
Blink detection & delay?

I wonder if blink detection is fast enough that a camera app could use it to detect and delay a photo just long enough that no one is caught blinking?

Smile detection could have an interesting twist. Set up an iPhone remotely with someone as the designated frowner. He keeps frowning until everyone is in place and ready. Then he adopts a smile and the photo snaps.
 
Title should be reworded to say "New APIs in iOS 7 Allow NSA to Detect Blinking and Smiling in Photos".
 
No more megapixels!

When are they going to stop increasing the megapixels? I'm not printing billboards for Times Square and I don't need bigger files slowing down my computer and taking up more space on my phone. I just want the camera to take less grainy pictures in low-light situations, be better at capturing motion, and maybe gain a better zoom.

My 4S has also had issues with the pictures getting hazy at certain angles from the sun/light sources that my iPhone 4 didn't have. Supposedly this was a problem white iPhones had that black ones don't. Fix that too! No more megapixels!
 
That's face detection, which is also available in iOS. This is specifically for smiles and blinks. I'm not certain there is such an API on android...

No, there isn't. But this is the API Android devs work with.
It does return a map of the face that the devs then could interpret with their own algorithm if the eyes were open or shut.
 
Apple has made numerous bad products on its time. Hockey puck mouse, mobile me, apple maps and so on.

But in general, the user experience on just basic interface is far superior on apple products when compared with contemporary competition.

For example, when the first iPhone are out, it was an enormous game changer. A historical milestone in technology. But it didn't have 3G or a decent camera. It lacked several features that many other phones at the time had. Eg, Nokia N95.

But that wasn't the point. Apple had made the fort GOOD implementation of ANY of a mobile phones features. What it did do, it did the best hands down in 2007. You'd have to be crazy to prefer a Nokia N95.

That is the point the other user is trying to make. We know apple makes some bad products, and often lacks features, but the reason we like apple products is because we expect the highest degree of quality and ease of use.

Thank you :)
 
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