New apple ceo likes flash?

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  1. Nychot macrumors 6502a

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    With jobs now in that big apple store in the sky, its possibke flash might make its return to all macs but especially the ipad which really needs it. Maybe the ipad3. Thoughts?
     
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    I can't see Flash making a return. Better alternatives are used now.
     
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    You can install Flash yourself, you have to do the same on Windows machines you buy.

    And Flash will NOT come to the iPad, just because SJ is no longer with them.
     
  5. Nychot thread starter macrumors 6502a

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    Still, the. Biggest complaint about the ipad from owners is the lack of flash. You can have flash on or off the mbp and other macs but not on tne ipad. There are a couple of browsers for the ipad that purport to do flash but they do it poorly. I would want it strictly for streaming movies. I bought a firesale hp tp that has flash and it does streaming movies perfectly.
     
  6. darkmaxdevil macrumors member

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    if that the case why you bother with iPads don't support flash?
    just stick with your hp
    it's that simple
     
  7. Rob.G macrumors 6502

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    While Flash would be nice, it's just such a PIG. One reason the iPad has such awesome battery life is because it doesn't have Flash. Flash sucks up CPU bigtime. There are times when I just have to shut down Chrome because its built-in Flash starts pegging my CPU making the fan run on high.

    HTML5 is the new way of doing things. In time, more and more companies will support it. We just need to be patient to give Flash time to finish its slow death.

    Rob
     
  8. kolax macrumors G3

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    The biggest complaint from iPad users would be that Flash doesn't work properly on it. Can't multitouch properly, and webpages that have ads bring the device to its knees.

    Microsoft is also swaying away from Flash.

    It wasn't just Steve Jobs who disliked it.
     
  9. heisenberg123 macrumors 603

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    this is very true

    Flash is only really needed for mostly porn built in video players and some sports team sites like the dallascowboys need flash to play videos in the built in player
     
  10. Quinoky macrumors regular

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    I've seen people like all over the internet. You probably don't know anything about web standards, but think you're right because a few other people share your opinion.

    Let those who know things about web standards debate whether it sucks or not. I don't know much about web standards (you won't see me saying HTML5 is better than flash, simply because I don't know), but I do know that flash is an integral part of my internet experience on my Macbook Pro.
     
  12. heisenberg123 macrumors 603

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    it will always be available for Macs, the arguement is for ipads, ipods and iphones, the reason flash is not going to be seen here is, there is no mouse and flashes uses a lot of mouse over effects
     
  13. Rob.G macrumors 6502

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    My Android phone has Flash. I used to use it to stream some radio shows that didn't have another option. The phone ran ridiculously hot and used so much power that having it plugged in barely kept the battery charged. Meaning, let's say I was at 50% already. I'd plug it in, fire up Flash, and three hours later when the show was over and I quit the Flash stuff, the phone was still at 50%.

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  14. Quinoky macrumors regular

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    Honestly I don't give a damn about web standards. I want something that works, whether it is standard or not. The fact that flash is adopted by so many websites on the internet does not mean it is a good piece of software, because it frankly isn't. So many users have reported heat, battery life and performance issues as a direct result of flash based browsing. HTML 5, however, is the complete opposite. I really don't care that HTML 5 is not standard, it is simply better.

    Don't get me wrong, I too use flash quite regularly since it is indeed still an integral part of the internet. But if the day comes that I can get rid of flash altogether, I will do so without a doubt.
     
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    And yet you had the option to install it or not to install it. The choice was left to the consumer.
     
  16. Woodcrest64 macrumors 65816

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    I doubt Tim Cook will support flash. I too have it on my android but it's so unstable and slow.
     
  17. HCx macrumors newbie

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    you don't have to use flash. the Galaxy Tab 10.1 has flash and it's battery life is within what? half an hour of the iPad 2?

    what macbook air you running? my 2010 MBP13 never turned on the fan when running flash, my 2011 MBP15 never turned on the fan when running flash, my 2011 MBA never turns on the fan when playing flash. yeah the MBA got warmer, but it gets warmer if you look at it funny.

    the point is giving the end user the choice to decide for themselves if it's worth having for some circumstances.

    what phone? mine have always gotten warm, but never 'hot' when dealing with flash. and yeah, of course the battery didn't charge you were using it to watch videos. do the same thing with an HTML5 video and the phone will probably struggle to charge itself too. keeping the screen on, decoding video, and downloading whatever over 3G is going to suck up a lot of power.


    this entire thread is just troll bait, the die hards here will keep saying Flash sucks until their foaming at the mouth. everyone else would just like to be able to make the decision for themselves.
     
  18. heisenberg123 macrumors 603

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    apple keeps it simple if they dont think their hardware can support it they dont make it easy or possible to install, keeps their support lines clear for real issues and not , whacka whacka whacka my flash dont work,
     
  19. rdowns macrumors Penryn

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    Can we please stop this flash nonsense? Flash isn't on iOS because it's not in Apple's best interests to maintain their ecosystem. Jobs death does not change that.
     
  20. bp1000 macrumors 65816

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    Flash is a horrible piece of coding and i cant believe in it's 11th iteration it's still as bad as it is.

    It was certainly groundbreaking when it was first released but it has made no advancements and people should give full support to emerging video standards like html5/webm.
     
  21. sweetbrat macrumors 65816

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    Really? Because as soon as I go to a website that uses Flash, my fan speed at least doubles, usually more, and my battery life drops to less than a third of what it previously was. And I have a 2011 MBP 15" as well. I have no problems with the fan speed kicking up during anything else I do, just when it's using Flash.

    I won't say that Flash sucks, but I will say that it causes hardware to run hot, and it quickly drains battery power. Those are two of the big reasons that Apple doesn't like it. And people are purchasing iPads and iPhones in droves, so it can't be bothering them all that much. And you do have a choice when it comes to running Flash. If you want it, use a device that supports it. Apple has made their stance on the matter very clear, so if you don't like it, use something that suits your needs better.
     
  22. realchimera macrumors regular

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    flash sucks. People only run flash in winter to warm up their cold hands.
     
  23. mrsir2009 macrumors 604

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    Flash runs like warmed up ***** on my MacBook Pro. Thank god the App Store came along so I can play casual games that aren't flash.
     
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