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New Apple Portables To Drop FireWire Support?
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Warbrain said:
Sorry, but not a chance. It would render all bus-powered devices useless, a big time step backwards.
grapes911 said:
That made me laugh. iLink is Sony's branding of 1394. And what about sony is Apple-ish??
I think s/he was refering to the "i" infront of the word "Link". Like iPod, iMac, iLife, iWork, you get the idea...MacNemesis said:
Exactly what I was going for. I though it would have been more easily understood.EricNau said:
It is ironic though. Isn't it?
yeah, it is ironic, I was thinking the same thing. I wonder if Sony got the idea from Apple.grapes911 said:Exactly what I was going for. I though it would have been more easily understood.
It is ironic though. Isn't it?
Wow... well, you can just throw iMovie and iDVD out of the iLife suite, since you won't be able to capture from camcorders anymore.
Personally, I think this is a very bogus rumor. No way Apple would do this. I think they are just trying to expand upon the fact that the iPod has gone to total USB 2.0, but that's just the iPod. It shouldn't be taken to mean that they will do the same thing to the iBook, etc.
Personally, I think this is a very bogus rumor. No way Apple would do this. I think they are just trying to expand upon the fact that the iPod has gone to total USB 2.0, but that's just the iPod. It shouldn't be taken to mean that they will do the same thing to the iBook, etc.
EricNau said:
MacNemesis said:
I posted earlier saying that Apple knows that they wouldn't drop it at all because of how many people actually use FireWire and how they only had to drop it from the iPods in order to make them as thin as they currently are. I know that Apple won't go to a 4-pin port, but offered it as a response to all the 'OMG APPLE CAN"T DROP THIS!!!!' posts. I find it completely funny that people are getting so hyped up over some rumor that is more than likely to be debunked.
Theres no justification for apple to drop firewire.
Its not like it costs them 100$ to include firewire or like it takes up so much room on their notebooks. And if they are trying to be conservative on space then they should drop the modem, compared to other components in the ibook its big. It requires its own modem card which takes up space compared to a firewire controller.
Its not like it costs them 100$ to include firewire or like it takes up so much room on their notebooks. And if they are trying to be conservative on space then they should drop the modem, compared to other components in the ibook its big. It requires its own modem card which takes up space compared to a firewire controller.
DTphonehome said:
Your point is that it is pervasive in video cameras, but you are 100% wrong about it being in EVERY digital video camera. A lot of the cheapie (<$300) cameras only support USB streaming.
For once, I'm posting before reading all the replies. There are just too many!
anyways, look here, and select "IEEE-1394a" under "Integrated Product Features". The number in the upper right corner should show "Motherboard or Barebones matches: 15". 15 Intel motherboards have FireWire on them (1 has FireWire800). I doubt that Intel would force Apple to drop FW for USB. Heck, I'll even guess that the processor deal included reduced licensing fees for Intel to use FW.
anyways, look here, and select "IEEE-1394a" under "Integrated Product Features". The number in the upper right corner should show "Motherboard or Barebones matches: 15". 15 Intel motherboards have FireWire on them (1 has FireWire800). I doubt that Intel would force Apple to drop FW for USB. Heck, I'll even guess that the processor deal included reduced licensing fees for Intel to use FW.
No way jose!
Apple could not possibly alienate their users anymore. If they drop FW400 on PBs that would mean whenever I upgrade this PB and other Macs, I'd have to buy new iSights, a new Camcorder that has FW800 (I don't think there are that many out there so my choices would be pretty slim,) new FW hdds, couple others things I can't name at the top of my head.
Unless of course, they make an adapter, which might actually already exist. Still, that would be a whole load of adapters I'd have to buy and it'd be too much of a hassle for me to still consider my apple experience a completely enjoyable one.
Apple could not possibly alienate their users anymore. If they drop FW400 on PBs that would mean whenever I upgrade this PB and other Macs, I'd have to buy new iSights, a new Camcorder that has FW800 (I don't think there are that many out there so my choices would be pretty slim,) new FW hdds, couple others things I can't name at the top of my head.
Unless of course, they make an adapter, which might actually already exist. Still, that would be a whole load of adapters I'd have to buy and it'd be too much of a hassle for me to still consider my apple experience a completely enjoyable one.
next step
it´s time for a new connection.
so you have to buy everything again.
with the new connection they will also present the first apple camcorder which incl. this new connection.
fast as hell.
it´s time for a new connection.
so you have to buy everything again.
with the new connection they will also present the first apple camcorder which incl. this new connection.
fast as hell.
I think it is very possible that Apple will drop FW400.
It's very easy to downconvert FW800 to FW400 with an adapter.
I think Apple will just move to all FW800 and drop FW400 completely, now that would make sense.
so my guess would be ibooks and powerbooks both have FW800. Maybe the powerbooks will have 2 FW800 ports
they will probaly drop PCMCIA too and replace it with that PCI-express equivalent.
It's very easy to downconvert FW800 to FW400 with an adapter.
I think Apple will just move to all FW800 and drop FW400 completely, now that would make sense.
so my guess would be ibooks and powerbooks both have FW800. Maybe the powerbooks will have 2 FW800 ports
they will probaly drop PCMCIA too and replace it with that PCI-express equivalent.
This is total ********.
Apple brought the firewire to the masses. Now everything from cameras to hard drives to scanners, etc. rely on firewire. I seriously doubt this will happen.
I understand when Apple dropped the flop disk because it was basically obsolete and did not hold enough files. But Firewire is a completely different thing. Live long Firewire.
Apple brought the firewire to the masses. Now everything from cameras to hard drives to scanners, etc. rely on firewire. I seriously doubt this will happen.
I understand when Apple dropped the flop disk because it was basically obsolete and did not hold enough files. But Firewire is a completely different thing. Live long Firewire.
I must reiterate my position that I believe this is a good move for Apple. On an entry level system, every $5 chip that can be removed is a step in the right direction. (Without destroying necessary functionality.) Remove a few other things (bluetooth/wireless/iLife) and you have yourself a better competitor to the Dell entry level laptop. Current mac users are going to want the same higher priced model anyway so what's the harm in offering something that more people would want (which is cheap), yet keeping that which is truly important (OS X).
magi.sys said:
ExpressCard, here, 'bout half way down. We could also see PCI Express Mini instead of MiniPCI...maybe new AirportSuperUltraExtreme? I really can't see Apple just switching CPUs and not using the opportunity to integrate a ton of new features (crosses fingers for HDMI in a PowerBook...yes, its just DVI w/audio, but my new HDTV has HDMI, and I want not only the ability to hook up to it, but good support for it)
Is it just me, or has Apple dropped FW 800 on the new iMacs? No, they didn't drop FW completely just the FW800 ports, they still have the FW400 ports though.
i just don't understand why my MDD 1.42 G4 has both, and is older than the G5's. I think it would be a big mistake to abandon FW, after all isn't this what they developed Target Disk Mode?
i just don't understand why my MDD 1.42 G4 has both, and is older than the G5's. I think it would be a big mistake to abandon FW, after all isn't this what they developed Target Disk Mode?
