I agree with everyone else, I don't believe this. Atleast not getting rid of it, and as someone else said if they made it all FW800 they would be sure to include some adapter. Looks like that blogger needs to re-think things.
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New Apple Portables To Drop FireWire Support?
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Add one more vote to the "not gonna happen pile." You can't be the company that pushes making home movies without FireWire.
And what about the Mac-to-Mac migration during a new Mac setup?
Bogus! This is so not true.
David
Add one more vote to the "not gonna happen pile." You can't be the company that pushes making home movies without FireWire.
And what about the Mac-to-Mac migration during a new Mac setup?
Bogus! This is so not true.
David
after seeing so many replies about how this is a terrible idea and will probably never happen, i also don't think it would happen. mainly b/c of all the unhappy costumers that apple would have if they did drop it.
to me, it makes more sense to start having support for usb (like for imovie, etc) before you start throwing away FW and make everyone go to usb
to me, it makes more sense to start having support for usb (like for imovie, etc) before you start throwing away FW and make everyone go to usb
ncoffey said:
Mac OS X isn't the only important thing. When IDE drives used to suck, Apple had SCSI. When the PC was trying to get their act together, Apple had FireWire.
Apple has always had nice hardware. If they put the extra money in for LED lights on the batteries of their laptops, and magnetic latches for their lids, and coin turnable battery snaps, I'm sure they're not going to ditch a FireWire port. I'd rather lose Ethernet or a Modem jack before FireWire, and I suspect I'm not alone.
David
Yikes. I knew Apple was phasing out Firewire in terms of the iPods, but I thought that was always in a n effort to appeal to more of the PC crowd, where firewire isn't as prevalent. Perhaps there is a grander, overall strategy in place then at Apple if this is indeed the case. Guess we'll find out in a month at MWSF!
This would be awful. It is already bad enough having to sync my 60GB iPod (video) with USB2......which is ALOT slower.
This will not happen......but they will remove the dial-up modems from the next generation of all Macs (at least I believe so).....they've already started with the iMac G5.
This will not happen......but they will remove the dial-up modems from the next generation of all Macs (at least I believe so).....they've already started with the iMac G5.
WHAT the ****?!?!?! what about DV CAMS!!!!!!!!!! If this is true - I will seriously doubt buying another Mac. This is just THAT serious, and I'm a die-hard Apple supporter. Ho-lee *****.
Maybe Steve is going to replace Firewire with wireless firewire instead!
Hmm, "wireless firewire" - wouldn't that just be fire?...
Hmm, "wireless firewire" - wouldn't that just be fire?...
nooo, the end is near!!! whats next? apple drops unix in support of the more prevalent windows OS?!!! im glad apple is doing well the the mp3 player market, but please please dont fall into the 'windows is GOD' midset like palm has!!!
This is really sad.. I hope it's not true! FireWire disk mode is a life saver and an awesome feature.. FireWire is just a better technology than USB 2.0, and even if the Windows world doesn't do much with it, I know a ton of Mac users who would be enraged..
Maybe they could drop firewire 400 because USB 2.0 does essentially the same and is more universal, but if they do that, they need to make and market it as a firewire 800 machine.
This would be BAD news, otherwise.
This would be BAD news, otherwise.
No surprises
This move wouldn't surprise me coming from Apple. While one can argue that USB2 & Firewire 400 are comparably the same speeds, Apple has succeeded in creating a network bridge over Firewire - which would lead me to believe that Apple will certainly be covering their butts with such a move. Be on the lookout for a Firewire->USB adapter provided by Apple for users who are Firewire 400 dependent to make a smooth transition. Of course it means a little extra revenue on accessories... Sounds typically like a strategic Apple move to me.
This move wouldn't surprise me coming from Apple. While one can argue that USB2 & Firewire 400 are comparably the same speeds, Apple has succeeded in creating a network bridge over Firewire - which would lead me to believe that Apple will certainly be covering their butts with such a move. Be on the lookout for a Firewire->USB adapter provided by Apple for users who are Firewire 400 dependent to make a smooth transition. Of course it means a little extra revenue on accessories... Sounds typically like a strategic Apple move to me.
I don't believe this as well-if Apple drops Firewire from the Powerbook's, then you wouldn't be able to use a iSight or Firewire target disk mode. Removing the 56k modem would be better-already started with the new iMac G5.
Well, to be fair, Palm's "switch" has nothing to do with windoze worship, it's pure survival. The Palm OS is good, very good, but dead in the water, and hasn't progressed in a very long time. Windows mobile allows them to stay alive and possibly retake the hardware market that they were a part of building.
If they could get by on Palm, they would in a heartbeatm but sadly they can't.
As for FW being kicked out, I call BS. Every video, and most music professionals are dependant upon FW400 for their bread and butter, so kill it and you kill the market, unless you ship wit some sort of uber adapter.
FW800 on the other hand is useless due to the limitations of HD's, etc.
FW800 = fish+bicycle
If they could get by on Palm, they would in a heartbeatm but sadly they can't.
As for FW being kicked out, I call BS. Every video, and most music professionals are dependant upon FW400 for their bread and butter, so kill it and you kill the market, unless you ship wit some sort of uber adapter.
FW800 on the other hand is useless due to the limitations of HD's, etc.
FW800 = fish+bicycle
wPod said:
In the "fish stinks from the head down" philosophy -- Jobs seems to me to have always had a need to control us Macaddicts by not allowing Apple computers to be worked on and taken apart like Windoze Lego toys.
Their "don't touch" or kill your warranty attitude regarding do it yourself laptop upgrades is symptomatic of this legacy.
By taking Firewire off a new line of iPods and macs, whatever they are, Apple would be effectively limiting what could be done by do it yourselfers like myself.
Now I like and admire Jobs. In his own way, he's a ruthless artist. Dumping firewire would be part and parcel of his control freak persona -- limiting what we can do with Apples and -- guess what -- I believe it would be helping to maintain their mystique. Windoze pcs have no mystique because you can pull them apart and step on them and then snap the virus vacuums together like Lego pieces.
Jobs is afraid of that. He created the thing we all love about Apple -- intelligent design.
So, stock up on old machines and fw devices. Or design us a usb to firewire adapter (I know, technically impossible) but let's not whine. I think Jobs is trying very very very hard to not let Apple go the way of all flesh next year -- and this may be part of his strategy. We all love Apple BECAUSE they outthink us.
Thinking things through is what makes excellent design.
Thinking things through is what made Apple Apple.
Thinking things through is -- love!
Their "don't touch" or kill your warranty attitude regarding do it yourself laptop upgrades is symptomatic of this legacy.
By taking Firewire off a new line of iPods and macs, whatever they are, Apple would be effectively limiting what could be done by do it yourselfers like myself.
Now I like and admire Jobs. In his own way, he's a ruthless artist. Dumping firewire would be part and parcel of his control freak persona -- limiting what we can do with Apples and -- guess what -- I believe it would be helping to maintain their mystique. Windoze pcs have no mystique because you can pull them apart and step on them and then snap the virus vacuums together like Lego pieces.
Jobs is afraid of that. He created the thing we all love about Apple -- intelligent design.
So, stock up on old machines and fw devices. Or design us a usb to firewire adapter (I know, technically impossible) but let's not whine. I think Jobs is trying very very very hard to not let Apple go the way of all flesh next year -- and this may be part of his strategy. We all love Apple BECAUSE they outthink us.
Thinking things through is what makes excellent design.
Thinking things through is what made Apple Apple.
Thinking things through is -- love!
bah. baseless speculation extrapolated from the ipod move. if apple had any plans of phasing out firewire, they never would have included it on the mini.
Target Disk Mode...
...is an awesome feature of Macs... I guess they could somehow implement this on a USB bus...
...is an awesome feature of Macs... I guess they could somehow implement this on a USB bus...
Good, They are forward Thinkers
Just buy a firewire400 6pin to firewire800 9pin cable. Did all of you complain because apple went from the original usb to usb 2?
http://www.macmall.com/macmall/shop/detail~dpno~521808.asp
Just buy a firewire400 6pin to firewire800 9pin cable. Did all of you complain because apple went from the original usb to usb 2?
http://www.macmall.com/macmall/shop/detail~dpno~521808.asp
I highly doubt this will happen. Firewire 800 is something that is a perk to upgrade from iBook to powerbook, so consumer comps should stick with FW400 and all 'pro' comps should have at least one of each. Otherwise FW800 and a FW800->2 FW400 adaptor would be cool.