New Apple Products at NAB?

[Stewie]

Colour iPod would be very useful. I'd really like an ipod where I could sync my iPhoto collection to iPod.

Also, videos ... a lot of cellphones (especially smartphones) now support movies...

If Apple could keep the price down on any such (video) iPod, I'm sure it would be a killer. Apple could market Video iPod along with iPod and minis.. not everyone wants video, and some want a small iPod.

Yeah but would you want to watch a video on your cell phone? SJ has said and I agree that people treat video different then audio. I can do other things while listening to music on my iPod (Walking, driving, sitting in a class) but you can't do the same with Video. If just won't be the killer app that every seems to think it is.

As for the color screen, that need is not there yet either. It would be nice, but it would kill the battery life, which most folks will agree is not where is should be yet. Once the industry can increase battery life, then will we see color screens.

And you can copy you iPhoto collection to an iPod now, so that is not really an issue, is it?

 

[nuckinfutz]

Announcing new Hardware Product(ie Powermacs, Powerbooks etc) makes absolutely no sense.

NAB is for professionals that are interested in new products to help further their careers. While new Mac hardware would fit into that description the focus of the even is the multiplicity of Hardware/Software for broadcasting. Thus, Apple would be proverbially "shooting themselves in the foot" by announcing new machines that wouldn't elicit any excitement at NAB. Despite the success of Final Cut Pro, Avid still rules the roost. Which means many NAB patrons are on PCs.

Worst kept secret right now is Shake 3.5. That's a given.

DVD Studio Pro should be revved. I'd like to see compressor improvements. Support for DTS and general sweetening.

Final Cut Pro- This should be updated. A worthy upgrade would be. Multicam. HDV Support. Soundtrack/Livetype 2. Panny HD50 support. And generally product Sweetening.

Logic- I'd love to see version 7 hit with the new apps(Guitar Amp, Ultrabeat and Sculpture). I'd also love to see more support for Multichannel production and more audio editing features(Waveburner integrated).

That woud rock.

 

[MacFan25]

I'd say that these "new products" will be professional software, Shake 3.5, maybe a new version of Final Cut Pro?, etc. But, I don't think there will be any new hardware.

It just doesn't seem like the place to announce something like that. Though maybe we will be surprised.

 

[~Shard~]

I'd say that these "new products" will be professional software, Shake 3.5, maybe a new version of Final Cut Pro?, etc. But, I don't think there will be any new hardware.

It just doesn't seem like the place to announce something like that. Though maybe we will be surprised.

I agree - especially with Shake 3.5 being announced (presumably), I can't see any hardware updates - it really does not seem like the appropriate venue for such announcements.

 

[aswitcher]

These are Apples (2) booths at the NAB and the booth sizes:

BOOTH SL3660 is 90 feet x 100 feet
BOOTH SL4054 is 50 feet x 50 feet
I don't know Jack about Mac but I'm learning and this is alot of space for those that think nothing is coming!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Thats a fair amount of space. Good sign for new stuff I hope.

 

[applekid]

Moving pictures. Moving sound. Moving the industry.

I outta beat myself up for even thinking about the possibility of this, but here it goes: iPod DV.

The iPod is mobile. It already moves sound. But will it now move pictures, too? It would require a whole new design though. I definitely don't want to watch anything on such a small screen.

But it does say "moving the industry," so I suspect some sort of mobile device for the movie industry that can do editing on the run ("Moving pictures. Moving sound"), not us regular consumers.

Of course that could also mean updates to some of the Macs, or at least the PowerBooks.

But NAB doesn't seem to be the place for such an announcement.

My head hurts.

 

[aswitcher]

I outta beat myself up for even thinking about the possibility of this, but here it goes: iPod DV.

SNIP

I think if Apple comes out with an iPod DV at the NAB there will be a lot of people pretty upset that this 20th Anniversary year of the mac, has become the year Apple switched from computers to music/video.

If they had all their lines updated I would be happy with such innovation, but until then I wonder how far Apple has got distracted from its core hardware...

 

[TRiPod]

Apple CANNOT release new 'pods at NAB! They haven't even started shipping mini's to all the countries yet!

 

[fucanay]

I think that an update to Logic is close. Apple demoed some new things at the NAMM show in January that have yet to be released. Being that Logic is a great scoring tool, I think that an announcment at NAB is not a far stretch.

Also, there was rumors (not reported here) a while back about another pro audio application that is supposed to complement Logic. And I've heard form a few sources who know people within Apple, that this is in existance. Although, I haven't heard a thing about it recently.

Also, also, Garageband, while not a pro app, is in need of an update as well to take care of the CPU load issues. Maybe that'll come there too?

MF

 

[Rod Rod]

DVD Studio Pro should be revved. I'd like to see compressor improvements. Support for DTS and general sweetening.

Final Cut Pro- This should be updated. A worthy upgrade would be. Multicam. HDV Support. Soundtrack/Livetype 2. Panny HD50 support. And generally product Sweetening.

HDV support for FCP 4 is already coming at NAB, but not from Apple. LumiereHD is releasing its plugin, which will allow HDV editing in FCP complete with TS export back to the camera. It costs $179, with a $149 show special.

www.lumierehd.com

 

[MacRAND]

The Digital Hub is at the core of APPLE. So, byte me!

I think if Apple comes out with an iPod DV at the NAB there will be a lot of people pretty upset that this 20th Anniversary year of the mac, has become the year Apple switched from computers to music/video.
If they had all their lines updated I would be happy with such innovation, but until then I wonder how far Apple has got distracted from its core hardware...

For the last decade or so, PC boxes have usually required the addition of a "sound card" just to have AUDIO, while
Apple has consistently made sound and audio an integral part of every Mac.

At the end of the last millennium, APPLE utilized its natural GUI to expand 2d images to 3d graphics, and progressed into animation (moving pictures).
Video compliments Audio. Doesn't that sound like a natural progression on a Mac, indeed on any computer?

Apple pioneered the SuperDrive and burning DVD discs with a computer as specialized software - iApps.
Editing movies is now common place on Macs, as is burning iMovies to DVD.

iMovies have soundtracks, MUSIC is integral to soundtracks.
APPLE buys LOGIC and expands its interest and investment in Audio / Sound / Music.

Apple sees the future in making MP3 files of Music legally available digitally through iTunes and for sale at the Apple Music store.
To be fair to non-Mac users (and to make more money), Apple expands availability for legally downloadable digital Music to PC people.

Apple's Newton was the first significant PDA - ahead of its time.

iPod is the first, best and most successful PMA (Personal Music Assistant) making good use of Apple's FireWire technology, iTunes, the Music store, MP3, and miniaturization of a multi-GB hard drive.
iPod is dependent on the Mac computer.

Apple is actively fulfilling its stated goal of being at the heart of the Digital Hub with a Mac in the middle (hub) and the iPod, digital still cameras, camcorders, webcams, printers, scanners, external hard drives, thumb drives, memory cards and lots of other peripherals effortlessly interconnected - plug & play.

And yet, a few people constantly bitch & moan about Apple's success in exploring and appropriately exploiting Audio and Video on a computer because some of the sound is Music?

What's wrong with such people?
Why are they so

• anti-GarageBand

• anti-Logic

• anti-Soundtrack

• anti-Music Soundtracks

• anti-Audio (especially digital optical IN/OUT ports)

• anti-iChat

• anti-iChatAV

• anti-iSight

• anti-iTunes

• anti-Apple Music Store

• anti-iPhoto

Is this "anti-everything else" the product of too much iGaming?

Exploiting Audio & Video is not a distraction for Apple, it's a MacEnhancement!

As my little sister loves to say, "GET A LIFE".
Better yet - Get an iLife!

If you don't like Apple hardware & software products - go get Gateway, but hurry, before they close their stores.
Switch to PC and buy yourself a Rio and a 7.1 SoundBlaster card of your choice.

You certainly are not a proper part of the MacFamily.

And one more thing - a statement that Apple's success in exploiting MUSIC / AUDIO / VIDEO will make a "lot of people pretty upset" is pure BULL, and makes me mad as Hades.

Negative whining gamers do not make up a "lot of people" on Mac or PC, and they certainly do NOT speak for the vast majority of loyal Apple people who are enthusiastic about everything Mac. (Including the CUBE!)

Please stop whining about Apple's success, and stop trying to speak for anyone else but yourself and the miserable minority of unhappy, power hungry gamers.

Other than that, we love you
Just stop WHINING and being so negative!

 

[THX1965]

FCP 4.5 and XSAN - it's all about sharing!!!

To all those who think if they don't see new PowerMacs, PowerBooks or iPods at NAB, the event on April 18 is going to be a big bore - NAB is for video and broadcast pros and any news regarding FCP is big news for us!

FCP hasn't been updated in quite some time (I mean small updates like 4.1.1) - I think we are going to see at least a preview of version 4.5 at NAB. Apple won't let this one yearly opportunity slip and not take FCP a step further. The AVID people are not asleep either and FCP has some catching up to do in certain areas.

I also think Apple is giving us a sneak preview of their own SAN system (XSAN!). AVID has (the expensive but well working) UNITY, but Apple right now has nothing to share media between FCP stations. Apple is very much aware of that situation, since it's a huge complaint among prfessional FCP users. It's a much needed step to take FCP from a single (semi-pro) workplace solution to a networked (truely) "pro" application that can be used at TV stations, post production houses, by feature film editors and anyone else who has to share media between two or more Final Cut Pro systems.

In addition to that I am hoping that the new version of FCP also has a built-in capability to share projects between networked FCP stations. AVID projects can be shared beautifully, FCP project files can't - at least not yet.

I am expecting this year's NAB to be a crucial stepping stone for FCP and its future acceptance in the professional editing world.

 

[powerofthekiwi]

I wish I had your confidence. I think we might see a G4PB speed and feature bump with the real deal coming out as the G5 at WWDC in just under 3 months...

no update for 9 months

no update for 9 more months

another update only 3 months later? I don't think so...

If apple releases an updated iPod before it updates its pro line I'm gonna snap!!! Well, not really....

 

[powerofthekiwi]

I also would be very happy with OEM cheap bundled Office for Mac when its released.

As for iWrite, seems like a good diea to ship a good text editor with all Macs not just the i range.

They already make a basic text editor for jotting down notes, stickies!

 

[potman]

Optic audio out

Well possibly the optical digital audio in/out ports on the G5 may have something to do with this.

There was a page 2 rumor that stated a principle linked with the optical digital audio out port would be announced soon.
Not only does this tie in with "Moving pictures, moving sound" (software compatibility and possibly a hardware utility to do with the optical digital audio in/out). Which would be great to announce at NAB.
Oh and why not throw in some G5/powerbook updates to please the crowd.

I mean the optical digital audio system is nice to have on the G5 but why have it built in (rather than the choice to upgrade with a card) as very few people use it?

Then again maybe just Shake three and a new version of Logic......who knows.

 

[potman]

Apple store down

This is a bit off topic but the US Apple store is down......
Here come the power books!!!

EDIT:
Ok only new emacs, go back to the discussion and your daily lives citizens....[sigh]

 

[mig]

Happy 2004

Cool, finally an ipod with oled display (very low on power consumption), 80 GB storage and a new standard for movies (mpeg 5?), which compresses a 2 hours movie to the size of a banana. And they sell matrix through the itunes store, and all other great movies, we ever wanted to watch...

And then a few PBG5's with oled display as well, which boosts the battery up to 8 hours.

We will be all happy as Steve saved our year. The pessimistic atmosphere in this forum the last weeks made me quite depressive. Was thinking about switching to PC already...

 

[Zaty]

With the new eMac, faster PBs and iMacs must be around the corner! (both maxing out at 1.5 GHz) I'm looking forward to Sunday

 

[iJack]

FireWire "iPod"?

I outta beat myself up for even thinking about the possibility of this, but here it goes: iPod DV.

Well...maybe something like it. A portable FireWire drive that hooks on to a DV camera, records without tape in the camera and digitizes on the fly. Something very much like MCE's superb QuickStream DV drive, which works wonderfully with FCP. Package this with an Apple-produced field monitor in the range of 7-10" with a native 16:9 ratio and I'm there! No tape. The camera is not even running - what the lense sees, the FW drive records! With such a rig, your camera would last forever. And talk about plug and play.

The QuickStream is expensive ($600 for 1 1/2 hours - $1,000 for 6 hours) and field monitors are outrageously expensive. It may not be what they are going to introduce, but one dream.

 

[appleface]

64 bit OSX

would NAB be a good place to unveil OSX 64? does anyone know where apple is in the development and/or what enhancements would be apparent to the consumer?

 

[Nny]

would NAB be a good place to unveil OSX 64? does anyone know where apple is in the development and/or what enhancements would be apparent to the consumer?

It's already fact that OS X 10.4 will be announced at WWDC. That's tradition now. As far as OS X going 64-bit, I am going to guess NOT YET. Probably a lot more 64-bit optimization though. With the bigger and bigger weight of an OS X install Apple will possibly move to DVD installation discs.

 

[Downdivx]

Well...maybe something like it. A portable FireWire drive that hooks on to a DV camera, records without tape in the camera and digitizes on the fly. Something very much like MCE's superb QuickStream DV drive, which works wonderfully with FCP. Package this with an Apple-produced field monitor in the range of 7-10" with a native 16:9 ratio and I'm there! No tape. The camera is not even running - what the lense sees, the FW drive records! With such a rig, your camera would last forever. And talk about plug and play.

The QuickStream is expensive ($600 for 1 1/2 hours - $1,000 for 6 hours) and field monitors are outrageously expensive. It may not be what they are going to introduce, but one dream.

Personally, I always thought something like this wouldn't be too hard to create, minus the field monitor (which should be coming out of your analog video out anyways). It seems to me that it could be a software solution. The firewire signal coming out of a camera is recorded natively, there's no processing needed. So an Ipod would just need to write the incoming data to disk. Ipods should be able to maintain DV's 25mb/s. So it seems to me this isn't a profitalbe product for Apple, but someone could write a third party software to handle it.

would NAB be a good place to unveil OSX 64? does anyone know where apple is in the development and/or what enhancements would be apparent to the consumer?

Again, NAB is a professional forum. If OSX 64 was launched at NAB, it would be presented as a performance increase for professionals. FCP4 has already been 64 bit optimized. It looks pretty certain that Shake will be updated, so a 64 bit optimized version seems pretty likely.

 

[rockinralf]

Moving SOUND?

Well, some of use use air as a medium... Others use water... I didn't think it was that hard to move sound.

SOUND is the perception of a physical event...that of vibrations transmitted through a medium & impinging upon our biosensors (ears!). Moving "sound" is as easy as moving your head, which is where this perception occurs.

BTW-most likely NAB/Apple will update FCP & Shake. Probably a decimal rather than integer rev for both...FCP really needs 5.1 audio support (Moving Sound!) and better connectivity between workstations...a SAN solution would be VERY welcome. The surround update could ripple-through SoundTrack to become a really powerfull scoring & mixing tool for video editors.

just a thought from the almost green MN north.

 

[rdowns]

It's already fact that OS X 10.4 will be announced at WWDC. That's tradition now. As far as OS X going 64-bit, I am going to guess NOT YET. Probably a lot more 64-bit optimization though. With the bigger and bigger weight of an OS X install Apple will possibly move to DVD installation discs.

Way too soon for 64 bit. Most of their line is still G4. As for DVD install discs, much of the installed base couldn't use them. Maybe in 2005 or 6.

 

[Archi-tech]

Easy to Figure out

What's coming at NAB?

An Apple version of the ROKU unit, what else?!?

http://www.rokulabs.com/

Except the Apple unit will be able to distribute iMovie files. Not in HD, at least not yet.

The little birdie told me>

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